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Original by Nickbeja

Sketch by Otani (camper trio artist)


Now, I'm going to preface this by saying I've actually had this sketch kicking around for months now, and have been mostly just holding onto it due to all the art stuff being busy af for a long while. But with how things are right now I think it'd be good to garner feedback on it.

And unlike with the amber thing, I was always intent on showing off the sketch first to get feedback lol. But that definitely highlighted it for existing characters getting tune ups.

Cause I'm sure a lot of people are already attached to Vili's existing art. Or may not like the sketch at all. But this isn't a thing that will for sure happen, that's why it's a sketch to garner feedback.

Now for why I would want to get a redo on Vili's art, in short, uh- she doesn't exactly match up with the way she's portrayed in text and how I kind of intended for to come off once I figured out how I wanted her to be. She was the first character to get art BEFORE I had her in game, and I def learned a lot from that and  think I've done way better matching those up. (Venefica I think is the only current example.)

Basically with her stature the boobs dont really match up with the language in game, and there's a few design details in her current art that kinda nag at me, like how her back hair looks. Her torso proportions also look weirdly off to me for some reason, and overall looks kind of stiff.

And with how her boobs art in her current art, I ended up having to make her a bit taller in game than I intended as well lol. She's fairly taller than the normal imps and was supposed to be closer to around the same height. But you wouldn't be able to tell that part yet.

For the sketch it's a sketch and not fully representative of what the final ver would look like. And atm I think the expression/face should likely get shifted to closer match the original.

Obvs either way she'll need to get a nude ver at some point, and a redux would let me get that along with it lol.


I definitely want feedback on this. :D
And will likely add a poll to collect full data on the matter later on once I have a better idea on how people feel about this potential redux.

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Comments

GreyHawk10

I like the new version better. Looks awesome ^^

Anonymous

I like the new version it definetly matches her personality better than the original image

Anonymous

I'm a fan of the new sketch. The sharper eyes and well, more disproportionate boobs help enhance her character image.

Anonymous

I think the new version is better because her breasts are big enough to merit how proud she is in them as opposed to before when they were proportionately the same size as other monsters

Anonymous

I prefer the original version more. It fits her personality better. We don't need another Heather.

Anonymous

I prefer the new version for sure

Anonymous

I think the newer version suits her more.

Anonymous

I like the newer version better

ps

I prefer the original, but would like to see the newer version finalized to be safe.

Anonymous

I like the new version for sure, fits the oppai imp vibe more. I'd like to see a further sketch that puts it on par with detail to the original

xAnon

I like the new sketch. It seems to match her text more in terms of size. Also p.s. praying for a rematch against her with trance attacks

King of Kings

The new one looks better right now because it closer matches the portrayal of the character in-game, and it has a greater emphasis on her body that just her boobs. It shows more action and movement bringing her more upbeat and impish personality to life.

Anonymous

New version definitely matches the text better.

vatarn

more boobs, the merrier

Darthsawyer

Old version is better

Anonymous

Direction of the new art is solid. Matching the original's expression and toning down the boobs a bit (the original's are already comically oversized for her body proportions; the new ones are approaching gross) seems like an overall improvement. Something about the new one's legs seem a bit off right now, but I imagine that will be fixed just with the transformation from sketch to in-game art.

Shazammy

Right looks way better, imo.

Neon_Luminous

I like the V.S. in the middle.

Tom

I think the new version is far more in line with her trial.

Anonymous

I prefer the old one

No

I really like the left picture of her, very attractive.

greyfox643

New one, but with like 200% more close-up shots during literally everything with Vili.

Anonymous

While I prefer the newer one's bust size, I wouldn't mind her top being more proportional since right now it seems silly with how small it is. I also like the original's more innocent feel, since she comes across as a more naive and playful than seductive.

Anonymous

The new one is pretty damn good, but I think the bust got a bit too big. It's overflowing a bit much imo. It doesn't seem like it'll show off her horn ribbons though, which is a nice cute point for her. I like the addition of the ahoge though, it's really fitting for her I think. So long as the new one has some varied expressions to match up with her dialogue properly, I think the new one would be a nice upgrade.

Alexey

old

Grandpa

Vili's original face is really sweet, so if her art does change, I hope that it's something that stays the same; otherwise, the newer version would be more fitting. The bigger wings are nice, but the ribbons could be bigger on the sketch version.

Anonymous

The new one seems overall better, expression and all. And as others have said her new breasts make more sense because her scenes described her breasts as being huge and almost disproportional, but the cgs didn't reflect that. Now she really is the oppai shortstack archetype she was supposed to be.

Anonymous

Prefer old for sure. Really don't want another character with obscenely sized tits

Anonymous

I'm with the new version 100%

Anonymous

new version is great, keep up the amazing work.

Aaron Lewis

I mean obscene tits is Kinda Vili's thing. She's the one character who really should have them considering the fetishes she's catering to.

MiaKitty

I prefer the one on the left. Her chest looks about perfect, to me. I do like the wings being a bit bigger, though. (Boobs on the left, wings on the right)

Trixie

I like the new version, bigger wings suit her perfectly, maybe have the boobs being just a tiiiny bit smaller, old boobs are almost perfect but they're described as being huge so it makes sense to make them bigger, but maybe not that much bigger? it's just a personal opinion, in the end do what you think suits the character best.

vi

I'm a big fan of the new one, especially the face. Perfect blend of smug/dumb/asshole/cute. The larger chest also makes sense for her, the old version's doesn't stick out as being particularly amazingly large like her attacks/dialogue would suggest.

Benevolent

Much prefer the new version, but the old version was 'fine'

Werechim

Yes. I feel like the text and the portrait does not exactly match up. I feel the new art fits her character way better. Sure, with the old art her chest isn't small or anything, but reading her text, there was just always this off feeling, like it was describing someone a bit different. I don't hate her old art, but it never really fit either. Imo she desperately needs this upgrade. The new one just overall fits her better. TLDR: The new Vili is more Vili than the current Vili. Really hope it happens. If it does, maybe her scenes could get a bgm upgrade too? Unlike many other characters, her scenes don't change the music.

JetpackDullahan

I like the new design a lot. Seems a lot more teasing, both playfully and seductively.

Jere

Older one is better, mostly because of reflections in her skin.

megahellreaper

I'm not leaning too heavily one way or another cause both are great, but I think I'd give the edge to the new one.

megahellreaper

The new one's just a sketch, I'd assume it'll undergo some refinement before release.

Noir

I really liked the old one. I'm not into too big breast, but I think this is her way and with the possibility of more face expressions and nudity this could be an awesome new way to show her.

Anonymous

Please do not spend precious time and resources taking one of my favorite characters and making her ugly. Her tits are already huge. I can accept that not every new character is going to appeal to me but it's another thing entirely to go back and give ridiculous fetish proportions to an existing character who already has great art.

Anonymous

On balance I think I prefer the newer one. Though it would very much feel like fixing something that wasn't really broken

Anonymous

Vili's breasts were already perfectly sized as they were. Now she's just gonna look like a smug blue-haired Heather.

Anonymous

Smug and big titty

Konstantinus

What is the difference between the two versions except the strap that cut in her breasts to keep them upfloat? I thought the design before has been that Vili is all the time levitating so there is no need for this because it is already defying gravity.

Omega_Advocate

Tough, old art is one of my favorite art pieces in the game, but new one matches her text better. Any chance of getting an art toggle in game for new/old art, especially if other art is getting reworked?

Omega_Advocate

Also its kinda weird since Vili is exclusively boob focused, and the first artwork has, on average, what most people would probably describe as "perfect" boobs, while the second might turn quite a few people off, as seen in the comments. Could also implement a new character that focuses on these kinds of boobs, and just change the backhair of the first one and make her a bit more smug (smugness is justice)

Kaiser416

Idea - make that the art for her illusionary clones.

Anonymous

I certainly prefer the new art. Vili is THE boob fetish character, her breasts should stand out from the crowd. Her old breasts(while still fantastic) were only above average at best when compared to other characters of this game.

FuckEA

Don't really care either way, to be honest. Kind of hope you focus on getting arts for characters who still doesn't have art yet (Stella who appears in the second location), or those with very limited arts like the Mimic before thinking about character art revamp. As for the art work itself, I like the revamp concept art has a more dynamic pose compared to her original to show off a more mischievous nature. But the original works fine as it is.

Silentwatcher

Definitely want to see a bigger chested Vili, definitely don’t want to see her boobs go too big! I'm a fan of big boobs, but it's very easy to get turned off, I feel, when the chest size gets ridiculous, though some people do like that. I think that a lot of people, seeing that artist for the newer art is the same person who drew Heather, who is probably the example that most comes to mind when talking about boobs that are too big, get nervous. That said I trust that this won't really be an issue, Otani also drew Catherine after all so it's not like that's a style for them! Vili certainly could benefit from a bust upgrade, it is something that does take me, and several others it seems, out of the flow of the narrative when her text and her art don't really match up. I also felt like Vili would have boobs that seemed a bit too...perfect? Like no sag even when nude, probably due to magic lifting them up as well as giving them more obvious bounce, and that level of roundness and deep cleavage that makes it almost feel like she she's constantly putting them on display...which she is! I do also like the other changes to her pose, though I still prefer the original's facial features, but that might just be because of the nature of the sketch. I'd like a smug, playful look. I never thought I'd be attached to her horn ribbons but honestly I do like them to be more prominent. Vili isn't just about her tits, she loves her sweets and she's a bit more skewed towards innocent and fun loving than sinfully seductive.

Anonymous

To be honest, I would love to see her in very long hair &lt;3 and this sketch looks good, bigger tits suit her personality well ^^

Kristen Hall

Vili is THE breast girl. So she should have breasts. Not any normal kind of breasts but BREASTS worthy of a queen. And because of that, I don't care how big they get as long as they are substantially bigger than what they were before.

MurpleMana

Fixing her height, and "weird torso proportions", to what our lord author intends, are fine goals. And I certainly love a bigger tiddy. But I also like Vili's buoyant and *round* tiddy. The sketch suggests these qualities may be lost. My concern is that the 'squished-into-the-bra' detail, when drawn, MAY make Vili's boobs not seem like "marshmallows" any more. To put it another way, once someone draws Vili's chest being squished, that will show what her chest does when squished -- something that everyone can imagine how they like without contradiction from the first art. edit: I should mention, I am excited at the idea that the squishing will be the effect *I* like nevertheless. :3

Cibervader

I love everything about this, literally every aspect is an improvement except that the one on the right is clearly a sketch. Pose wise the one on the right is much more animated and telling of her personality, the expression expertly portrays her impish personality and teasing ways wondrously and most importantly the tiddies got bigger, the squish effect with her corset-like top is also god tier.

Anonymous

I prefer the older one. The thing is, Vili's tits will always be too "small" considering how she talks about them. People will always compare her to people like Heather and show how "small" her tits are. Instead of a art rework, I think she should have a text rework instead. Have her say how "perfect" her tits are and how they are a work of art. That they are the right size/shape/softness ect. She should talk about how amazing her breasts, not how big her breasts are.

Bluntforce

i like the older work personally i think the portions are better and more pleasing.

MonsterGirlDreams

Those things are very much considered. Like I said, this sketch was made months ago. and artist availability is a big key for some things as well.

Anonymous

Old one definetly has better proportions but the newer one does have a cuter face. Hard to choose but I personally like the newer one better.

Anonymous

Disregarding the change in breasts (which I think the sketch design is better at conveying that aspect), the feel the sketch really makes Vili look "impish", looking like an imp, in the look/size/body-language design stuff. The idea of "Vili the arch-imp" pops out more in the design.

Omega_Advocate

Tbh the new version looks way better after getting used to it, just way more imp-ish

Krackenheim

I like the new Vili, I always thought she was supposed to have some big boobs, really big honkers, I mean some serious badonkers, packin some huge dobonhonkeros, Massive dohoonkabhankoloos, big ole tonhongerekoogers. Another arch imp should come in with even bigger bonkhonagahoogs, HUMUNGOUS hungolomghnoloughongous. Ya know to really bring out the rivalry.

Anonymous

I thought it was impossible to improve on perfection. Guess I was wrong.

Anonymous

Yes, Vili is too tall; no,I don't want a change in boob size. Same boobs smaller body works for me. I've never liked Vili's hair. The hair from the sketch is way better.

Anonymous

There is such a thing as boobs being too big. I think the redux sketch is past that point. I do like the more expressive posture though, it fits her character.

Anonymous

I think right is better but with her boobs slightly smaller then they are

Anonymous

I feel boobs lose their appeal when they pass the point where the proportions make sense. It seems fake, excessive. Less like breasts and more like balloons. Otherwise I think the sketch is pretty much an upgrade.

Anonymous

I really like the new sketch, and i don't mind the bigger boobs. But i am biased because i love big breasts and i know lots of people arent really into really big, but still i dont think they are that big so i prefer it like this :D

CrazyChameleon

Breasts definitely too big. I know some people will prefer it but for me she just went from sexy to an over the top cartoonish cow monster. To me those just aren't recognizable as breasts.