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Fringe S3E9 (Patreon)

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2022-01-19 19:42:03
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2023-11-15 22:23:15
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I'm so upset

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Eric Pfeiffer

"Power of the pussy guys"....2 minutes later your cat completely owns you. LOL

Rashaun Hector

Loved your commentary on this episode

Eric Pfeiffer

Fauxlivia fooled EVERYBODY. Is 'Liv gonna be angry at everyone or does she expect Peter to have special powers of incite? Being in love with someone tends to cloud a person's senses, not make them more perceptive (unless you are actively looking for a reason NOT to be with them). Until he got that phone call, Peter had no solid reason to suspect any shenanigans. By then it was too late. I totally understand Olivia's anger, but it is misdirected. The whole " you should have known" thing is really just ego. Comparing a crazy dude looking into the eyes of a reanimated corpse with a guy you're in love with that banged your doppelganger is just ridiculous ( actually, that whole sentence is pretty ridiculous LOL). I hope Olivia comes to her senses. Chicks,man.....J/K!!!

nostalgicgirl
>>76032609

Exactly! I bet if this had been the other way around and a faux peter had manipulated olivia to have sex with him then it wouldn't been questioned at all. peter is the victim here and shes putting her ego above that and its ... ugh.

BJ Stephens
>>76032609

I mean yeah, it's a little harsh and she's probably overreacted, but let's be real, (it's easy for us to play Armchair Psychiatrist) none of us will probably ever, or could ever imagine how we would react to a situation such as this. The idea that everyone in your life bought that someone else was you, that this person took over your life is just such a next level mind-frel, and the emotional impact could be so overwhelming.... that I could easily see someone not even having the slightest idea on how to process or deal with it. I'm pretty sure I would be so freaked out and lost that I would probably handle it very poorly. I feel like eventually Olivia will come to terms with it, and be able to consider it more calmly and rationally, but it would take time for anyone imo.

WillAlwaysLoveClark

Olivia is angry and hurt, she does not trust easily, look at what happened with John. She puts her heart on the line, and someone else walks in and steals it. Fauxlivia got to have all "the firsts" with Peter. She is jealous, so that's why she is taking it out on him.

Suzanne Hunt

I totally understand Olivia's anger, she deserves to mad at Faux-Olivia and Walternate ! They aren't here so she lashing out at the one person she thought knew her best. I am not saying it is justified but it is understandable! I know it is not Peter's fault and you are right he is a victim in this, but so is Olivia!

Caradoc Elmet

I completely disagree with your analysis of the conversation between Peter and Olivia at the end. I know you're further on in Fringe so I'm going to hold back and see how you see everything going and what you feel about it later in the series before I say anything more on that. One thing I do want to mention, though. is that I've also been watching your reactions to that show with the actress who plays about 8 different roles. Every time she was asked an awkward question by Beth's boyfriend she ripped his clothes off and had pretty aggressive sex with him more or less wherever they happened to be standing at the time. You didn't have a problem with that even when you believed he was just a regular guy in love, thinking he was having sex with his long-standing girlfriend who, presumably, also loved him.

nostalgicgirl
>>83326027

I don't remember what my reaction to that was but I do remember feeling uncomfortable. I probably did have a problem with it but didn't say anything because Orphan Black and Hannibal were the very first shows I reacted to and I was pretty terrified with my opinions at the start. But I am curious to know what you thought about that conversation between Peter and Olivia.

Caradoc Elmet
>>83326027

Yeah, I thought that might have been the case with Orphan Black. It must be difficult starting out, knowing what's safe but true to yourself, without attracting vicious comments. It's something I genuinely admire about you. I think you've said you have anxiety problems or something in that realm. I hope you don't mind me saying that. I'm in that realm myself but I hide away from the world. I get really panicky about 10 minutes after commenting on a video in case I've upset anyone or some stupid stuff like that. You're sticking your neck out and engaging with the world and that's risky. I'd love to be able to do what you do but I don't have your courage. I feel safer here in Patreon land. I've been insanely chatty for me so I think you might be doing me some good... still not sure I'd call out the heroine of a show I'm watching though lol The ending conversation you mainly addressed before the following episode. You seemed in this video to think Olivia was blaming Peter and that was the main thing I disagreed with. I thought she'd said that she doesn't blame him and that even though she understands that intellectually, she still *feels* that he should have been able to tell by looking in Fauxlivia's eyes and she just can't be around him right now. I thought her side of the conversation was more about how her feelings are overriding her intellect and that, rather than blaming him, she was confessing her own failing and saying she needed time to deal with it all emotionally. You said pretty much the same thing in the next video anyway so I think we agree on the main points. Thank you, though, for defending Peter. Boys and girls are raised very differently. Anything like this is usually seen to always be in the boys favour. Whatever has been done to them, they had sex so, wahay! the boy's a winner! It sickens me. In the early 2000s there was a scandal in England when a 30-something year old female teacher was caught having sex with a 13 year old male pupil. The press and the comedy panel shows and the public opinion all agreed that the boy was a legend and wondered where the teachers like her were when they were at school. This was the prime time TV response to the situation. That kid was abused, without a doubt. Even if he did want to do it, it was still abuse and it will have an effect on his life. How does he come forward and ask for help when even national television says he's supposed to be acting like a hero? Everything he's ever learned about boy/girl interactions tells him he's supposed to feel great about this but he probably doesn't. I was abused throughout my childhood by my father, until my parents divorced when I was 11 years old (maybe 12). Then a whole bunch of us were abused by a female PE teacher (school sports teacher? Physical Education? I dunno what you call it over there). The female teacher was the most difficult to deal with because I was supposed to act as if it was great and more or less line up for it. You can't talk to anyone about it unless you're pretending it was awesome. It was just the absolute worst. A kid at my school had to miss school one day to go and testify against someone who had abused him when he was in an orphanage by forcing him to perform certain unpleasant actions. I don't know how to write it but you know generally what I mean I hope without details. Both he and his abuser were male. Everyone at the school found out and he was bullied and beaten up for being gay. He was 4 years old when it happened! I had my drink spiked in a club once. I know another guy who was assaulted in a male public toilet facility and another guy who was assaulted by a woman who beat him up and tied him to a chair. Only a few of us ever knew about it and none of us went to the police for fear of what would happen if the news got out and the fact we've been raised to believe we should always somehow be able to defend ourselves, no matter the odds. It was always our fault that these things had been done to us. I can write this stuff here because nobody knows who I am and I don't care what a stranger thinks of me. I get anxiety online more from fearing I've upset other people accidentally than from fearing online bullies attacking me. I can say these things here but nobody in my family knows about any of it, except for me having an abusive father. They all know about that but my sister chooses to claim not to believe any of it, though it happened to her once, and I have an aunt who will not speak to me and pretends she can't see me even if we're in the same room. My sister was also abused by our father, on a single occasion, and you'd think she'd just been pulled back from a near death experience the way everyone rallies around her. Nobody knows how to deal with me because I'm male. Especially after they found out I've had boyfriends as well as girlfriends. It's like they sighed a big breath of relief when that came out cos now they could file it all away under 'there must be something wrong with him anyway'. It's such a strange world and there's no sympathy or understanding for a male in those situations, so I think you're awesome. Real life vs Internet is still tricky for me though, and I love you for reaching the point where you can say what you think and stay true without having to compromise for self preservation or views. I hope I'll be more like you one day. I find it all inspiring.

Caradoc Elmet

Oh wow! That's one long rambling mess. You don't have to read all that lol