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In this episode of Tales, Michael invites friend and longtime collaborator Daniel O’Brien to discuss the healing properties of meditation and its role in both of their lives.

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Daniel O’Brien: https://twitter.com/DOB_INC

Michael Swaim: https://twitter.com/SWAIM_CORP

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JT Moen

Daniel's concerns about meditation and anger remind me a lot of Dan Harris's story in 10% happier, minus the war and drugs.

Eric Rose

Did Michael say which app he used?