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BoJack finale delay & request (Patreon)

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2021-09-17 01:24:13
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Hey everyone, we wanted to give notice that our series finale to BoJack Horseman will unfortunately be delayed a day or two. Due to health and family responsibilities we were unable to get the reaction recorded in time, so that will be watched tomorrow and edited as quickly as possible.


We appreciate your patience and understanding, BUT we also ask since this show has been such a beautiful journey that allowed us to speak our minds about our lives and own mental health hurdles, we would like to hear from all of YOU about the show.


Please send us questions or just your general thoughts about the show (preferably tonight or early tomorrow) and we will be sure to address them in our post discussion for the finale. Again, being able to share our personal stories with you relating to the show has been truly unique and rewarding and we would love to have all of you involved in our final discussion of it.

Comments

Anonymous

This show has been a huge comfort to me through the past few years, coming from an abusive home with an alcoholic father and a Schizophrenic mother it was difficult to do pretty much anything. I spent a lot of my early adult life feeling like I was the problem, even with issues that I had I always thought about how people had it much worse than I did, so that made me feel invalidated. Like me feeling bad was dumb, and it’s still rough to not think that way, but me putting myself into the role of the villain in my head constantly was the most unhealthy thing I could do. All the bad things that happened to me were because I was bad, I was broken, and I wasn’t capable of being better. But one moment goes underrated in the show in my opinion and it’s something that really shook me and kind of helped me, when Bojack is addicted to pills and he goes to Diane to ask her to write a take down piece on him, and he says that he’s a bad guy and people need to know, and Diane responds with “there are no good guys or bad guys, we’re all just people who do good things, and bad things”. At that moment this show really hit me and made me think. It’s been great watching you guys experience this amazing show, my favorite show still hands down.

Brian Settles

Bojack can be really heavy, but is a lot of fun too! Do you have any favorite jokes or animal puns from the show?

Facundo Brouwer de Koning

Im more concern about the My Hero academia delay , I started to watch you girls because of your reactions to that anime but now is your less important show...

Anonymous

I thoroughly enjoyed your reaction to the show and out of all the reactions out there, I feel like you two had the best commentary and were most attached to the issues addressed in the story. I also got to know both of you on a much deeper and emotional level because of the show. My question is, what do you think was Bojack’s rock bottom, or do you think it’s possible it has yet to come? Who was your favorite character?

??
>>67991658

Ohh brother this guy STINKS!

galexc

What is your all time favorite episode of the show?

Jessica

You guys are the first patreon I've ever joined because of Bojack and I've loved your reactions to it and how raw you guys got into your emotions. Since I know absolutely nobody in real life who watches this show (even though I've recommended it plenty) I needed to find another outlet and that's when I found your youtube. I've watched weekly with you guys since the beginning and even though I'm alone in my room, I have you guys to laugh and cry with so thank you for giving me that company for the past year <3 My question is, which episode has resonated with you guys the most? For me it's either the view from halfway down, or stupid piece of sh*t.

Taylor Stuckey

An element of the show a lot of people miss that I’d love to see the ladies discuss: Sarah Lynn’s father and his heavily implied sexual abuse of her that’s kept to the background. We know he’s a bear, Sarah Lynn said she knows what bear fur tastes like, and in the flashback with Sharona, a young Sarah Lynn mentions her step dad being “weird”. This combined with all the ways her parents took advantage of her and raised her to be famous, winning millions from Bojack after she dies. It honestly makes me sick.

Shockzz1234

As someone who suffers from big, big depression, anxiety and all of that this show helped immensely. Years ago I was toying with the idea of self harm and more. Felt like nobody loved me, nobody would miss me, what’s the point in living on etc and I could feel it getting worse by the weeks. But this show….was like therapy. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this show takes the place of actual trained therapy, but holy shit it does a good job. Things like accepting trauma, trying to be brave, finding friends and others who you can open up to etc, this show is brilliant at making you see or accept these things. I’ve reached several self epiphanies watching it and I’m now in a better place. Not perfect. But way better. And Bojack was, or IS, one of the main reasons. Only one other show has helped me through those tough times and helped me see the value of life, but in a completely different way as it’s a different show to Bojack (that series is One Piece for anyone curious lol), and those two shows are pretty much my top 2 I’d say. Simply because of the help they gave me, intended or not, and because of my connection to them on a whole other level. Reach out to someone if you think you need help! You should not feel embarrassed at all. Humans need help from other humans. There’s no shame. Anyway. Thoroughly enjoyed your guy’s reaction to this. The best I’ve seen on YouTube (although there’s not many - spread the word, get more reactions to this amazing show!! Lol) and I very much appreciated seeing the two of you put yourselves out there multiple times across the series with your personal stories and emotions and thoughts. It’s good to see others voice out things that I struggled with too, even if it’s painful. Thanks for the reactions and here’s to many more in the future! 🍻

Its ame mario

Loved both your inputs on the show. Bojack helped me get sober, I rarely tell how but fuck it, it's the internet: So I'm a bit over 2 years sober. I actually started this show in the height of my addiction. I was married but I just wasn't happy, she was hating what I was becoming. It got to the point that looking back at it, it's like I was cheating on her with my alcoholism. One day I was hammered at 7am black out drunk, I don't remember what happened but from what she told me..well it got physical. She went to stay at her mother's. I wish I could say that it was my wake up call to get sober but it wasn't, shit got worse until I ended up in the hospital, turns out I got liver cerosis from all the drinking. Wife was with my throughout it all and as soon as I got out she said I had no choice but to go to rehab. We ended up getting divorced because well... obviously we did. I binged season 5 because it came out while I was there which hit way to close to home at that point in my life. I got out of rehab, relapsed a few times (which is why I'm only at 2 years) overdosed on a combo of booze and drugs and died for a few minutes, had to be put on a medically induced coma (which was a fucking ride). I really condensed it because I wanted to get to this point, AA is not for everyone, everyone has to make thier own choices but one thing that is necessary is support, this show gave me that. Thier were parts that destroyed me in season 5 and 6 but I needed them to realize some important things. One of which is that in aa their is a step where you have to try to make amends to all the people you've hurt, alot of people think that step is the hardest thing for an addict to do, it's not, the hardest thing is realizing that the forgiveness they give you ( if they even chose to forgive you) doesn't mean anything if you can't forgive yourself and that is something I still struggle with to this day, but you can't change what you've done, the only thing you can do is acknowledgeit happened, accept the consequences and be better. The second being that addiction isn't the problem, it's the self destructive coping skill that's chosen to deal with the real problem. I can type about this for a while so I'll just cut it there. Can't wait to see your overall view on you the show

Jacqui Z.

It's been amazing rewatching this series with y'all! I've been comfort-watching Bojack throughout the pandemic. I'd love to know: What was the turning-point episode when you started taking the show more seriously? For me, it was "Hank After Dark" in Season 2. I didn't expect them to tackle the Cosby situation so well.

Max O’Donovan

To be honest there are moments in this show that I heavily disagree with in terms of its message but that’s always been part of the charm for me. In the last few episodes however, I resonated with Bojack and what he was going for more than I thought I would. I’m someone would doesn’t have a particular reason to be depressed, I just am. My parents are supportive, I was brought up well, never been lacking in money and I had a good education. Despite all this I still find myself having difficulty looking in the mirror because I hate the person who I see. I sometimes have urges to call it quits here and now so I can stop feeling like this but this show has given me two great things in order to prevent that. This first of which, is fear. After watching “the view from halfway down”, or more specifically, listening to the poem that bojack’s dad read just before the end, I became quite terrified of something I’d gotten used to thinking about. The poems message is a hypothetical look into what a person might be feeling before and during a suicide attempt. Relating that to what I might feel during my own attempt scares me a lot, enough to make me seriously rethink my thought process. The second is self love/ worth. I have none of this whatsoever. I grew up thinking that if I loved myself or thought highly of myself in any way that I was some kind of narcissist creep, so I got into the habit of consistently degrading myself over everything as a way to “keep myself humble”. I’m barely out of my teenaged years so I’m still confused about a lot of things in my life, however I think by using these two big lessons this show has taught me, I can start building a healthier lifestyle for myself. Thanks for watching the show you two, you’re great.

Hunter2

slight spoilers . . . . But the song that plays at the end of the series is everything Diana wants to say to Bojack but she just can't seems to find the words for it

Anonymous

I'm so sad we've arrived at the end of this show :( but also so happy to see that it resonated with the two of you so much. People are always so hesitant to get into Bojack Horseman because of how strange it can appear which is a shame. I never thought I'd be saying this about a show but it definitely changed my life or helped me change it. When I saw this show I was going through an especially dark period of depression and substance abuse. When I watched it, it was almost as if the show was holding a mirror up to my face. I especially struggle with anxiety, and at times my brain gets overwhelmed with negative thoughts and all the ways I feel I mess everything up and I get major panic attacks. This show played a huge part in helping me learn how to deal with everything, including substance abuse. Sorry if that was too much! I just feel so passionately about this show since it's affected me and so many others so deeply. I'm truly happy I got to go on this journey again with you guys. Loved all your commentary throughout the show, and how real you guys got in your discussions, relating it back to your lives. Made me feel like I was watching it with a couple friends. Thank you so much:)

Anonymous

Like Bojack, I had a very difficult and complicated relationship with my mother, so watching his journey with Beatrice was enlightening, alarming, and confusing. My mother died suddenly and unexpectedly two months after I watched "Free Churro." And I never got to have the conversations I really needed to have with her. These two things about my mom are true: She was the person who hurt me the most throughout my life and she was also the person who loved me the most. How can I ever reconcile that? How can I ever forgive that? And what does forgiveness look like? Specifically when the other person can’t ever or won’t ever acknowledge the harm they caused? And does forgiving require healing? Thank you for letting us go on this journey with you; your insight and perspectives and responses have been so valuable.

JoloPolo

(sorry for my bad English) Oh, I understand, no problem, priorities are priorities, although I am glad that we have the opportunity to participate in the final reaction of this fantastic series. So I will share my personal experience with your reactions and with the series in general, being a long viewer of your channel, Latin American (Chilean), one week after turning 22, being a theater student and struggling with depression and loneliness since the beginning of my years as a teenager. Although I knew about the existence of this series, the truth is that I never caught my attention enough to see it, even knowing that it dealt with topics such as depression. However, you guys started watching it in the middle of last year, so I decided to watch it with you at the same time. To be honest, as I watched the show, I felt more and more like Bojack Horseman. With cellopathic behaviors, narcissistic, emotionally dependent, controlling behaviors, among other things, I considered myself a monster, at the same time that I ruined relationships and pushed away the people that mattered most to me. I hated myself, I didn't want to live anymore. I thought I was too immature for my age and that I was the only person who behaved like this. But then I started watching the show with you, and your reactions and conversations served me as a kind of therapy. Thanks to the series and you I learned that it is okay to make mistakes, to accept myself and love myself more, because I began to understand that I was not the only person who dealt with these things, and most importantly, I learned to improve as a person and continue ahead. I understood that people can change, with effort and dedication. I can proudly say that today, many of the toxic behaviors that I have had have decreased a lot, I am a better person and life is much better. I started watching the series at a difficult time (online theater, with a teacher who resembles Whiplash's, having to see my ex and first girlfriend with another classmate in the same class every day, dealing with my older brother with Asperger's and his violent behaviors) and the truth is that it has been almost like a life jacket, because I did not want to continue losing friendships or important relationships for me, because I was really very toxic. Thanks to your videos and this series I learned to move forward despite my failures and mistakes, treat myself better, not give up on the road and above all understand that it gets easier, but you have to do it everyday.

Amanda Milholland

I have really loved seeing your reactions to this show. I feel like BoJack Horseman is the biggest “surprise” of any show I’ve ever seen — you go into it thinking it’s just gonna be some fun adult cartoon about talking animals and then it turns into some the deepest, realest depictions of mental health, addiction, and trauma that I’ve ever seen portrayed in media. It can be hard to watch at times, sure… but it’s a masterpiece. I was just wondering if you two were just as surprised as I was? Did you have any idea going into it just what the show was going to be? And what point in the story do you guys consider the “turning point” when you realized that the show was so much more than it seemed at first? Thanks!

JoloPolo

Regarding the series, which episodes were your favorites? Escape From L.A is a tough one, although The View From Halfway Down is not far behind, like That's Too Much Man or Fish Out of Water. Also, what was your most iconic moment? For me, the end of season 3, when Bojack attempts on his life driving in his car and sees a herd of horses trotting in the hot sun. Bojack's hopeful gaze and with the crescendo of the piano in the background, it was cathartic. It was as if the series told me that I could move on, that I can evolve and be happy despite everything, that there is still hope. Well that's it, thank you very much and greetings from Chile;)

Anonymous

What were some of your favorite moments, episodes or jokes through the seasons? I love that we never got to meet Erica. 🤣🤣 I've recommended Bojack to so many but no one ever gets through the first few episodes; have you recommended it to anyone, have they watched? Imon, see if you can convince your therapist to watch; the discussions you two'll have would be great. Sad to see this journey come to an end; I know you two didn't think this show would take you to such emotional places but I'm so grateful for your discussions every week. Thank you for your honesty. Imon and Abi, I am so glad I discovered you at the start of covid. You two have unknowingly made this past year and a half a lot brighter for me. You've helped me acknowledge failures within myself and want to change, helped reassure me that it's okay to feel like this, and to seek help because it really does get better.

Anonymous

I was fortunate enough to be introduced to Bojack Horsemen when I started therapy in 2018. Around 2017, let's say I wasn't very kind to myself: no self-harm, just a lot of self-hatred and misery. Some of that was on me. I was terrible at standing up for myself. That said, I was horribly mistreated as a substitute teaching for 3 years, and I was involved in a 10-year toxic relationship with college friends that constantly reminded me of my mistakes and failures. I got into drinking... heavy. Sometimes, I would leave the bars so drunk I punked in Uber rides, I puked in my parent's house and even puked a the bars themselves. Then one day, while hanging out with friends -- I had an epiphany: "I am so freakin' miserable! Why am I even here? I don't like any of these people!" That's when I decided to seek therapy. My friend John was the first one I told and, it was then, he introduced me to Bojack Horsemen. The rest is history. This show is a masterpiece. Each episode is its own therapy session. For me, it served as the perfect mirror to hold me accountable for how horrible my life was. Yes, I was wronged, but I could have done something about it. Instead, like Bojack, I felt playing the victim and throwing pity parties would excuse me for my part in all of this. My therapist helped me realize that -- and I changed it. I've been better since. I'm glad I got a chance to rewatch the series and see how far I've come. Thank you for your reactions, ladies!

Spencer

Favorite character? — Any plot points you think they could have done better on? I love the ambiguity and think it’s perfect but some people have questions about X or Y character that is never resolved on screen. — My favorite episode is arguably 6x16, I think the ending is perfect and most meaningful to me — but I have to hand it to 5x6 6x15 and 2x12 as well.

SantaClausJr

So many good vibes from bojack in the comment section, thats nice. Guess i'll spill my small amount of beans. As someone who was fairly early beset with a lot of personal deaths, my best friend growing up, my sister and mom, the episode 15 resonated a lot with me because i often have dreams like that, with all the people gone, talking like nothing happened. ocassionally at some point i realize "wait.. youre dead" and then it clicks while im dreaming im just talking with past people and its my imagination, but even then i still like to talk to them. I also didnt have a great relationship with my mother, so the funeral episode from last season resonated with me. You always dream about the great relationship you could have, but then its gone. It wasnt great, but could it have been better? we'll never know. Anyways, cheers for the good times

Kc

Only have one question really Is that the horse from Horsin' Around?

Anonymous

My dad passed away a few years back due to alcoholism. I don't think I've ever seen a so accurate description of losing a parent you had a complicated relationship with as "Free Churro" - the acknowledgement that you didn't just lose a parent who was never there for you, but that now you also have to mourn the hope that they ever would be. It's so healing to watch this show and know you're not alone with this - trauma, abuse, and mental illness can be so isolating, and just the knowledge that other people struggle with it too is so important. Anyway - as for questions: Which storylines were your overall favourites? Did any characters grow or change in ways you really hadn't expected? Thanks for the great discussions about this wonderful, ridiculous cartoon-horse-show <3

ToastMunchie

I was in a pretty bad place when the second half of season 6 dropped. My mother was in the hospital in a coma due to her rampant alcoholism shutting down her body, and seeing Bojack relapse was horrifying to see. My mother was my only family member left. I was only 24 but every other family member had died, and it felt like I was losing her too. Suicidal thoughts were inevitable in that sort of situation, but man did The View From Halfway Down hit me hard. It made me rethink a lot of things, and has since become my most rewatched episode of television to date. Here is my question: off the top of your head, have any specific episodes impacted you enough that you think you will be rewatching them again in the future? Things are much better now, my mother is out of the hospital after a 14 month stay, and she is doing better every day, still sober. Love your guys' reactions so much! Can't wait to see what you guys do next!

BetheSOUL

Aww, thank you so much for doing this. I'm a bit sad it's over, but very grateful we got through it. For me, the biggest takeaway from this show is that the hard part is not over. From reading the comments (not just tonight, but since you started reacting to it), it's safe to say everyone's going through a lot. And of course, you two opened up a lot more about your lives than I think I'd seen you do before in any other show. So, anyway, the hard part is not over. And it may never we over. Life is struggle, personal growth is a struggle, and all the strides we make in a year can quickly collapse without warning due to things we can't control. The important thing is to remember that we've pulled through the hard times before and we will again...because we have no choice; we have to try. And for the love of god, we have to have empathy and hope for others to do the same, even if they don't believe in themselves, because we know how hard THAT part is to overcome.

BetheSOUL
>>68007842

Sidenote, this is definitely one of my top 5 shows of all time. My only issue with it was that Diane kinda got "cured" by the antidepressants. I stopped taking SSRI's myself last year because I realized they were doing nothing. My issues were still there, I just didn't mind...in a way, I kinda stopped trying. Once I weaned myself (over a few excruciating months), I became more active, found a job, moved to a better housing situation, and now I can cry more easily and more cathartically. According to the latest research I checked, therapy and EXERCISE together yield better long-term results than therapy and antidepressants, and that totally makes sense to me, so keep that in mind all of you who are weighing your options. Much love to everyone

Anonymous

Abbi and Imon, I've really enjoyed watching this show again with you. I've been a patron since breaking bad but with better call saul done now it's just been the weekly Bojack drops for me. I'm definitely going to miss having that to look forward to. Bojack to me was such a pleasant surprise in so many ways. It subverted my expectations constantly. I was amazed with the gravity and intensity they were able to create. I'm curious what you think about the choice of half-animal/half human universe. I remember your initial discomfort with season 1 and the animal hybrid style and it has made me so happy to see you guys enjoy and become attached to the show over time. This show managed to balance ridiculous and devastating (I've laughed while in tears) and I think the kind of ridiculous world they live in helps highlight that. I found the show to be soulful, witty, challenging and unrelenting. I do think the show was a little heavy-handed on politics sometimes. I admire the writers for making every character flawed. There is no "ideal" person. I believe a huge part of the way people react to the show is based off whether they internalize or externalize Bojack. I'd like to know whether you feel personal kinship with him, or if he moreso reminds you of someone you've known. If not Bojack, which character did you most identify with? To close this, I work loooong hours at a company that's in a critical growth phase and I have not really had time for out of work socialization for the last few months. It's been a great comfort to be allowed to know you to a degree. It feels like a privilege. I appreciate what ya'll do and the people you are. Peace and love <3 p.s. Take your time!! I know you'll feel obligated to get it out tomorrow but you guys deserve to take your time with it and get your heads completely straight.

Anonymous

I've come to appreciate and treasure this reaction series so much, I came on here just to be a patron for the last week but will almost definitely stick on. This show was with me during so many hard points in my life. An abusive relationship (we got married, oh no!), leaving that relationship, making a new best friend who I thought I'd be friends with forever after all of that, that friend killing himself.... It's been a lot, and having the f***ed up lives of the Hollywoo crew (especially Diane, oh god, how I relate to her) has just made me feel at least a little more seen? Just as a human, going through garbo human shit. This show asks us to be so open together. To talk about what hurt us and why. To recognize everyone's pain. Because everyone, everyone, hurts SO much, I chronically give too much sympathy to people, so Imon, I TOTALLY understand "not defending BoJack, but". It's hard. I see why and how hurt people act and then hurt others. God, it's so hard. When and where do you draw the line? This show has given me SO much courage in my relationships. And watching you and Abi, who come from VERY different backgrounds from me, but orbit around similar conclusions? That's so powerful. That connective strand humanity has... this show can tease it out of anyone. Thank you both, a million times. This show is HARD. And it's WORK. But it MATTERS. It warms my heart so much to see two loving people who have kids and are also engaging in the stuff that's demanded of us as people.... So I guess my question is... I think "sometimes, life's a bitch and then you keep on living" to be one of the most profound and inspirational lines of the series. A friend has said it's sad. I think it's profoundly uplifting. How about your you? What do you guys think about that line? Thanks for this journey. It was once in a lifetime and I'll *always* remember it. <3

Anonymous

Hearing the both of you open up and really have some intense discussions about my favorite show has been great. You guys have such a great insight, I originally only subscribed for your Bojack reactions but i've been starting some new shows with you + renewed my subscription. Thanks for this amazing journey. (Do you think you could react to "History of the entire world" by Bill Wurtz? It's not the usual episodic stuff you guys do but I think your reactions would be hilarious)

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"There's always more show. And you can call "Horsin' Around" dumb, or bad, or unrealistic, but there is nothing more realistic than that. You never get a happy ending, 'cause there's always more show. I guess until there isn't."

VGreenGoblinV

I always recommend Bojack Horseman to folks. It honestly shows personal, human growth in a way I’ve not seen in many other shows. It can be sloppy and awkward and wrong-headed because that’s what life is. Also, that “it gets easier” line from the end of Season 2 was effectively my mantra and I’ve lost about 100 lbs from working out, just remembering that it gets a little easier everyday. ✌🏽❤️

pholla

What is your favorite line of dialogue, or your favorite exchange between characters in the show? There are so many to choose from. I have two that I revisit alot. The first is in Free Churro where Bojack talks about feeling upset about a cancelled TV show, not because it was bad, but because you know it could have been so much better, and that the opportunity to be better was gone now. That hit hard bc i thought of all my family relationships that were strained and unhealthy, including my mother in law who passed away two weeks before I saw that episode . The second was Bad Damage, where Diane questions what the point of her childhood struggles if she could not turn it into 'good damage'. That was a great reminder for me in finding peace with the past rather than holding onto it in an unhealthy way. Anyways I hope you both start that podcast one day because you have such amazing insights! I followed a couple of your reactions on YouTube and you are one of the few I stay for the post-episode chat. Also I think you would love Watchmen (the TV series, but read the graphic novel or watch the movie first) or the Leftovers. It was the Leftovers fans that brought me to Bojack.

Tmatts
>>68020693

I completely agree that it's uplifting. I'm always surprised when people say that season 6 is so depressing. It definitely has extremely low moments for sure, and surely shows BoJack at his lowest, but BoJack also reaches his highest point after hitting his lowest and if that isn't inspirational as fuck, then I don't know what is. (And same goes for all the other characters too, everyone has incredible personal journeys in this show).

Gaïa New Gate
>>68069703

I +1 on the Watchmen recommendation, such aagood show, they would have great discussions

Anonymous

Which episode or scene or line of dialogue do you think about the most?

BetheSOUL

Just thought of these, in case you haven't watched it yet, it's worth rewatching the fast-spaced sequences in the last episode, and pausing at the newspaper pans. Some funny stuff there you might enjoy