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Damn you, noble paladin...you're going to kill me yet.

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sanjosharks39

Any updates on the Expanse TTRPG? Do you have a discord? I was looking for one and I can't find any links to a discord

Daxeah

I think this is the first season that really benefits from reading the book along with the show. Even though there are some changes from the book that make the show better than the book, they did leave out some of the details from the book that really help the reader/viewer understand exactly what is going on with the planet. The show is much more subtle with the explanation. If you are still confused by the end of the season feel free to ask or wait till you read the book.

Varun Laks

One of my favorite things about Season 4 is Holden's development into a strong leader (something that I think is done much better here in the show than the books). I think Steven Strait has always been good in the show, but earlier on he's hampered by playing a more naive and inexperienced Holden. I think that results in some people not liking the character, and unfairly holding it against Strait's performance. I think a lot of people mistook Strait *convincingly* playing Holden as someone who's initially *unconvincing* as a leader for *Strait himself being unconvincing* at playing a leader. So the discourse around this season was interesting live, because it felt like people really started to appreciate Holden's character and put him amongst their favorites. After seeing Strait get disparaged on places like Reddit the three years prior, it was really nice to see. Daniel Abraham has also often talked about how he felt it was unfair how some fans talked about Strait's performance in the earlier seasons. This episode in particular has always been one of my favorite Holden-centric episodes.

Joshua

Amos to Marco is such a great scale.

Jason Dokos

Sourced from reddit. The size/energy of the explosion. "...50k exajoules is roughly 12,000,000 megatons. Which.. seems like a lot, in fact it's an incomprehensibly large number, so let's put that in context. As I'm sure most of you are aware the largest nuclear bomb ever detonated on earth was the Tsar Bomba which had a yield of 50 megatons, so that's 240,000 Tsar Bomba's going off at the same time. That's still kind of hard to wrap your head around, so let's put it this way: 1985 was the year in which the size of the global nuclear arsenal was at its peak (in warhead count - perhaps unsurprisingly finding yields for all those weapons is tricky) at about 62,000 warheads. If we assume that each warhead has a 50mt yield like the Tsar Bomba that is still only 3,100,000 megatons - about a quarter of the energy released in that explosion. But that's a vast overestimation because most warheads are in the 150-500kt, with relatively few in the several-megaton range. If we take a more reasonable number like 500kt as the average that's 31 gigatons (31,000 megatons), so the island explosion on Ilus released as much energy as if we had launched the entire global nuclear arsenal at its peak almost 400 times over. Wow, no wonder it was so devastating even on the far side of the planet."

Etta Eskridge

This episode always reminds of the movie The Impossible made about the real life tsunami that hit Thailand around Christmas in 2005 (I think it was). the movie came out in 2012 and is pretty horrifying in its depiction of the actual events while it follows the fate of a family vacationing there. Thus the CGI of the water moving so quickly and forcefully is very accurate and scary!! So much for the tumbleweeds!!

Chad K

Is the fox wily or is the fox arrogant? por que no los dos?

Beat Conductor

Correction on the moon bit, the moon that's melting or... whatever it's doing, is definitely not the one facing the island. The island is on the other side of the planet as the camp, so if Murtry could look up and see the moon doing stuff, it's definitely not over the explosion. As a note on your bit about the Transformers and Eternals science/logic, here is some real life info for you. There have been a few scientific teams that have journeyed to Greenland and Antarctica to research micro-meteorites and meteorites, and study space dust falling on the planet. They determined that between 4,000-6,400 metric tons of space stuff falls to Earth every year. If we take a middle of the road number, (5,300 tons) and use that as a baseline for Ilus, we can assume if the planet was inactive for 1.5 billion years, that means 7.95 trillion metric tons of material could have fallen on Ilus in that time. Assuming there wasn't more chaos in the Ilus system during those 1.5 billions years to throw even more dust/meteors/asteroids around. The only point of reference I can find for this kind of volume is there was a 1 trillion ton iceberg that broke off of Antarctica that had a volume of 1,155 cubic kilometers. We can round off our 7.95 trillion tons to 10,000 cubic kilometers. If we assume all this debris that landed on Ilus got moved onto land somehow, that means you could cover all of the land in maybe a half a centimeter of material. Granted, these are rough calculations and I'm not a mathematician, but I think something else must have been happening with all the material on that planet.

Warp Reactor

This is why I love you folks! Thank you, my friend! If given enough time, I will 'movie magic' my way into thinking Transformers is an appropriate substitute for science :D

Lauralyn

Cracks me up how every ending pisses you off for being a cliffhanger! Last week's was hysterical, too.

Beat Conductor

It should also be noted that lithium is a pretty rare element, and likes to bond with things so is not often found alone. Most space rocks are iron/nickle and the dust was determined to be mostly from comets. Not sure if I can post links in here. But here's a graph for reference. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Elements_abundance-bars.svg/1920px-Elements_abundance-bars.svg.png It's a logarithmic scale relative to hydrogen.

Simply.Beyond

It was just blood on Alex’s wrist.

LightningInvoker

I always come back around to your comments about how good the acting is for all the side characters. I still equate The Expanse to The Canterbury Tales in a way; a group of pilgrims on their way to a holy shrine, but mostly how that each pilgrim is the main character in their own story. This very much feels like each character we've met. Each one is the star in their journey, and we're only focusing on a group of certain individuals.

Ana (Lariaenl)

Welcome to the episode when shit hit the fan...