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Vinland Saga 2x01 Reaction (Patreon)

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2023-02-02 01:04:14
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Robert H.

Nice to be back for February. And now that you've reached the second season and left the prologue behind: A little history lesson. Sweyn Forkbeard (Sveinn Haraldsson; 17 April 963 – 3 February 1014) was King of Denmark from 986 to 1014, also at times King of the English and King of Norway. He was the father of Harald, Cnut and ******. In the mid-980s, Sweyn revolted against his father, Harald Bluetooth, and seized the throne. Harald was driven into exile and died shortly afterwards in November 986 or 987. In 1000, with the allegiance of Trondejarl and Eric of Lade, Sweyn ruled most of Norway. Sweyn started raids against England during 1002–1005, 1006–1007 and 1009–1012 to avenge the St. Brice's Day massacre of England's Danish inhabitants ordered by English King Æthelred the Unready in 1002. The main motivation for the raids was more likely the prospect of revenue. In 1013, he is reported to have personally led his forces in a full-scale invasion of England. Most of the territories immediately submitted and bowed to King Sweyn. Only London remained to be conquered in order to control England completely. But the Londoners put up a strong resistance, because King Æthelred and Thorkell the Tall, a Viking leader who had defected to Æthelred, personally held their ground against him in London itself. Sweyn then went west to Bath, where the western thanes submitted to him. The Londoners then followed suit, fearing Sweyn's revenge if they resisted any longer. On Christmas Day 1013 Sweyn was declared King of England. Based in Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, Sweyn began to organise his vast new kingdom, but he died there on 3 February 1014, having ruled England for only five weeks. Sweyn's cause of death is unknown. Some theorise that he was killed, whereas other sources say he died after falling off a horse (possibly according to the proverb: fallen off a high horse?). Hardly anything is known for sure of Cnut's life until the year he was part of a Scandinavian force under his father, King Sweyn, in his invasion of England in summer 1013. In a Knútsdrápa by the skald Óttarr svarti, there is a statement that Cnut was "of no great age" when he first went to war. If the skald's poetic verse references Sweyn's conquest of England in 1013–14, it suggest a birth date in 995-1000. There is a passage of the Encomiast with a reference to the force Cnut led in a battle shortly after his Coronation. It says all the Vikings were of "mature age" under Cnut "the king". A description of Cnut appears in the 13th-century Icelandic Knýtlinga saga: "Knut was exceptionally tall and strong, and the handsomest of men, all except for his nose, that was thin, high-set, and rather hooked. He had a fair complexion and a fine, thick head of hair. His eyes were better than those of other men, being both more keener-sighted and handsome." Almost nothing is known about Thorfinn's youth. The narrative in the anime is completely fictional. Askeladd's character is based on various sagas, but is ultimately completely fictional. He is said to be an illegitimate son of Olaf Höskuldsson, who really existed. His death caused a number of revenge-killings, as in the tale of Askeladds.

Robert H.
>>100979992

It's good to be back. It had already become a small ritual to see the reaction to a show on Patreon.

A
>>100979992

such a great, non-spoilery background comment. and realizing Thorkell the Tall is a real historical figure that did defect is interesting.

Nemo

You guys have a lot of shows on your plate right now, so I understand you will need to finish a couple of shows before adding new ones. I just wanted to recommend Spy x Family for the future. You have probably heard of it, it's quite popular atm. I think it would be the perfect show to balance things out. It is one of the most wholesome and funny animes right now and it would be like medicine for your hearts after it's been properly abused by Vinland and AOT coming around the corner. As a long time viewer, I'm confident in saying it's definitely in your taste too. You would love all the characters right from the beginning. :)

Robert H.
>>100979992

@A Oh, but I had commented on something for Thorkell back in December. Here: Thorkell the Tall, commander-in-chief of the Jomsvikings and the legendary fortress of Jomsborg, really took part in the Battle of Hjörungavágr in 986. (Episode 1) But he did not switch to the English side at that time because it allowed him to fight better battles, but because the Archbishop of Canterbury, an important hostage of his, who he obtained during his battles in the war against England, was killed against his will by his subordinates. Disappointed by the Archbishop's murder and sensing that he was losing control of his men, Thorkell and several other loyalists defected and took 45 Viking ships with them. He and his men then entered the service of the English king Æthelred the Unready as mercenaries, for whom they fought against the invasion of the Danish king Sweyn Forkbeard and his son Cnut in 1013. In general, he emerges from the story as an incredibly successful and strong warrior who fought in hundreds of battles and still did not die. He was considered a monster on the battlefield, and with a height of over 2.15m, he was a real giant at that time. Reading his Wikipedia entry is extremely reminiscent of his portrayal in the anime. Especially the statement "he was too powerful a man to be made an enemy of" was really put down. Nevertheless, this one is also extremely spoilerish, because the author is strongly oriented towards the true history. For example, I know when and how Thorkell dies, which might take a bit of the fun out of watching the anime or reading the manga.

Robert H.
>>100979992

But very important: If you don't want to get spoiled, stay far away from Wikipedia entries or other historical info. It's a bit strange to be spoiled because you read English history or the background behind the naming of Bluetooth. That's why I also like to write such a comment, so that you have the relation to the history without having this risk of spoilers. That's how I managed to spoil myself. And I'm probably not the only one considering this meme: https://www.reddit.com/r/VinlandSaga/comments/neef3z/spoilerless_viking_history_is_whack_af/

Merijn

this one doesn't work anymore apparently