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Shogun Episode 10 Reaction (Patreon)

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2024-06-11 00:04:58
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Shogun Episode 10

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Sebastian

the heart of this show always felt so intertwined with mariko’s story so having a s2 and distancing the narrative from her might be a disservice. i’d be happy to be wrong though. hiroyuki sanada (toranaga) is tremendous so that alone might be worth it

AlexBoss

I believe it is simplistic to simply apply the terms good and evil on characters. Human beings are much more complicated than that. But there are actions that may be considered evil, as their result may cause much more harm than good. The excuse that a lot of "evil" actions will cause a lot of "good" further down the line, is a very flimsy one and philosophically can not stand i believe, as the end result is far from certain, and therefore all you might be left with is all the evil that has taken place. Toranaga has been doing "evil" actions for a long time now, and by the end of the show, we still haven't seen the good to come out of them, only his "vision" of the "good" that will eventually come. The even worse thing, is that he is not just doing evil actions directly himself (as evidenced by his torture and executions in Ajiro, only as part of a trick to keep close to him someone who makes him laugh), he is callously manipulating people close to him (sometimes even relatives) and leading them to their deaths, while he is hiding behind his temperate and calm facade, waiting to seize the moment to get all the power for himself. His treatment of Mariko in particular i find quite despicable (even for that time period). Not only did he manipulate her father to kill Ochiba's father, he then took a woman who was obviously traumatized and psychologically vulnerable and turned her into a "suicide bomber" for his purposes. His callous manipulation is especially evident in that scene where he confronts Mariko about her relationship to John and forces her to chose between them. The moment he sensed that there might be something in her life that may make her in love with life (as a new love might do), he immediately interferes to stop that and remind her of her obligation to him and to her dead family. That was a truly despicable move. (Not to mention how he deprived her son of her mother. Mariko's son is an altogether unfortunate subject in the show, as i feel that Mariko's neglect of him -in the pursuit of her perceived obligation to her lord and her dead family- is also truly awful) A fantastic show all in all, with the one caveat that i'm not sure that the show itself realizes how sad and used Mariko actually was. I got the feeling that they tried to show her death as having a deeper and higher meaning, when in reality it was all orchestrated and manipulated into happening by one man, for his ambition to become Shogun.