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Fiyin Cole

I’m going to give my opinion on the situation coming from someone who is on the spectrum. I personally did not finish this episode thinking the mom was evil or a bad more in anyway. I saw hee as extremely protective and while that could probably not help her daughter in the long run, I don’t blame her for being so. Her daughter is different and that is a fact, she is a lot more vulnerable to evil people who might try and take advantage of her. Also while both the daughter and woo young-woo are autistic, they both are clearly on different ends of the spectrum. Also although woo young-woo might be able to articulate what she wants or if she is uncomfortable, it doesn’t mean everyone on the spectrum can. It seemed the daughter at first might have wanted to do it and then later on change her mind but was unable to voice that, and that stressed her which is why she ended up doing what she did to her arm when she got home. Her mom saw that and assumed the guy might have taken advantage of her. Knowing her disability though he should have made sure she was comfortable throughout the whole thing and the moment she seemed uncomfortable he should have stopped but he clearly didn’t care enough about that so for that yes he definitely deserves punishment because HE KNEW she didn’t want it. So again I don’t see the mother as evil but just overprotective knowing her daughter probably didn’t know how to properly say anything. That being said, I think this episode was written very well though, it’s not all black and white because reality we don’t know what actually happened because they never showed us, so we just have to go based on the little information that was given.

Roy Mathew

I am autistic and have been involved with several autistic groups, almost everyone I know has had a story like this (although not as extreme). It’s pretty well known in the autism community that we are prone to romantic and emotionally abusive relationships. This is because (1) it’s hard for us to tell the difference between imperfect or flawed behavior and malevolent / abusive behavior, (2) a lot of us have had so little success with relationships that we feel especially lonely (and thus can become desperate or willing to tolerate things we really shouldn’t), (3) and because we are vulnerable in this way, it (unconsciously) attracts predators (including those who don’t view themselves as predators) and emotionally immature people. However none of this is apparent to us at the time. It took me two whole years of weekly therapy before I even began to question the moral character of a past partner, despite the fact they my therapist continually told me how wrong it was.

Casein Nitrate (edited)

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2024-03-21 02:57:55 “Manipulative prick trying to get his prick manipulated ” 💀 Wes says some of the most random hilarious things
2024-03-21 02:57:55 “Manipulative prick trying to get his prick manipulated ” 💀 Wes says some of the most random hilarious things
2024-03-08 23:17:59 “Manipulative prick trying to get his prick manipulated ” 💀 Wes says some of the most random hilarious things

“Manipulative prick trying to get his prick manipulated ” 💀 Wes says some of the most random hilarious things

Nhi

Hey Wes and Steph! I appreciate your discussion at the end. The moment Wes talked about everybody having a 250 IQ and Steph’s expression, it reminds me of what y’all said about your N and S for your MBTI lol.

Aliphsi

It’s important how we treat the victims of sexual abuse cause a big part of the pain is the reaction of the people around them and these people inserting their own pain. I agree with Woo that only she decides if it was rape or not, at her own time. However, that doesn’t mean he was not taking advantage of her. She knows he's an asshole, it’s not that she doesn’t understand that. I don’t think there was deception on that part, but he’s still seeking vulnerable people and was taking advantage of her need to be loved. That’s why he threaten the relationship to get the sex he wanted, that’s coercion in any relationship and that means there was no consent from her. I genuially believe he doesn’t think it was rape, I think he knows he’s a selfish asshole but not a sex ofender , so good he’ll go through that program. I’m glad he still got punished cause many people still believe that pressuring people into saying yes still counts as consent. I also agree with Wesley that the Mom being overprotective may have made it more difficult for her to voice her opinion. Similar to how we teach kids to not name their private parts or to hug or kiss strangers to “be polite”. It takes away their ability to say no and to communicate. She needs to be taught how to protect herself as much as possible and also she’ll already have more difficulty getting into any relationship because of this experience.

Chels

I struggle with this episode so much, because I'm a victim if assault and abuse, am on the spectrum, I had a long term with a little (someone who mentally regresses to childhood under stress due to trauma) AND as a teen I was very mature and had real, healthy relationships with people that in any other state, it would have been illegal. (Idaho has a 5 yr limit with parental permission and over 13 law) soooo I could argue both sides of the fence for this case for years.. 😩 I personally don't feel happy with how the case turned out because I think it should have been the girls decision whether to prosecute or not and that was taken away from her. We all have experienced douchebags before and just the fact that she knew he was a jiggalo is enough for me to say "ok, that is her decision" because you never know, maybe he wasn't taking advantage of her. My ex would waste thousands on me and I would fight with him about it, saying you're spending too much on me. What if that were the situation? Or what if she likes being a sugar-momma? Lol u know? So it should've been her call, but then I still wrestle myself about that. About how much free will people should have. If there was a law that says I could say my mom was an endangerment to herself for staying with my father, and i could force a separation between them, I would. But that's because I care about her and morals go out the window for those I care about.. 😅 but even saying that, I know that's wrong, so why apply it to people with disabilities that have the capability to say "I know he has these issues, but I love him anyway" oh and the show never cleared up if her scratching herself was a result of the act or of "oh God, moms gonna kill me" and that was one of the things the judge said was a reason for his decision

Claude

I think this episode shows very well how multi layered a problem or situation can be when it involves a medical condition and/or disability. I think it’s very difficult to make a “black or white” assessment, because as you guys pointed out: the guy can be a total douche bag, the mom can have issues negatively impacting the daughter and the daughter can have difficulties protecting herself all at the same time. Although regarding the mom’s behavior (and as disclaimer I wanna say I don’t condone it nor will make excuses about it), but it can be important to note that “caregiver stress syndrome” IS a condition most often than not affecting primary caretakers of patient’s long lasting disabilities and/or chronical conditions in general (for context I’m a physician as in general doctor). And while that absolutely doesn’t change the fact that as a physician I don’t agree with certain behavioral patterns of the mother, I think this case proves that one of the most important parts, IF NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT of caring for a patient with disabilities, is seeking proper phsyquiatric/psychologic guidance for the WHOLE family and/or people involved in said patient’s lives (including potential partners/lovers/siblings and even close friends). Pd: I’m very sorry for any spelling mistakes, english is not my native language