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Jujutsu Kaisen S2 Episode 5 (Patreon)

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2023-08-09 17:01:01
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Charmaine

i remember reading this part in the manga and i kinda wished they showed more of getou turning "evil". i understood the cult members celebrating riko's death and then those girls being blamed/abused by the human villagers upset him but i just wanted /more/ to justify the hate he had and the need to kill all humans. he was even willing to kill his own parents so i wanted it all to be drawn out more.

Chels

I thought of a good argument against Steph saying she didn't see the flip so she's not convinced. There is no flip, it's like your cooking a steak and forget about it and move on, when you come back to it to flip it, the other side is completely disformed, charred from the inside out. I think that's what's happening to Geto.

fishbark

another reason haibara's (the cheery underclassman) death was so impactful to geto was because the reason he died was...negligence, kind of, or a lack of care from the higher-ups. he and nanami went on that mission under the assumption that the curse wouldn't be a first grade, according to the information given to them, and that misinformation was the reason he died, pretty much. geto's classmates, teenagers, were dying because the higher-ups saw them as something expendable, which probably disillusioned him even more.

Gustavo

Geto is a jujutsu sorcerer to protect people. When Riko died he saw the religious group clapping because of it, it traumatized Geto. He realized there are ugly sides to the masses which made him questioned why he even does this in the first place. I don’t see how you’re not convinced or didn’t see the flip or understand it.

Nikki

Ok this is gonna be a bit of a long comment but I truly love Geto and Gojo’s past arc because it’s so well done. Here’s my own interpretation of the two of their characters and that flip that you were talking about: I'll start with Gojo as I feel there's less to explain about him since you guys will probably have a much more in depth feelings about him due to season 1. Usually when you get the cocky, arrogant archetype of character overconfidence is always like their fatal flaw or the reason for their downfall. Gojo is probably the only character I've ever read that its not presented as a weakness- mostly because he's not overconfident; he's just that confident and has the skill to back it up. And yet, ego aside, Gojo doesn't become an unlikable character for it at all (to most people watching/reading). He sees plenty of people (nearly all of them) as less than him, but he's not mean about it, I guess? He cares for people despite their weakness in a way? He's so OP and yet he still sees the value of training the students instead of codling them and etc. He sees value in people in spite of thinking he's the strongest. He also doesn't seem overly attached to this pride of being number one from how easily he admits Yuuta (and the third year I can't remember the name of) can surpass him in season 1. He's so nonchalant about it. I just truly love his character so freaking much- I don't necessarily think he's a fully moral character or anything at all— he's neutral at best— but that's what gives him so much depth. Geto- he's a bit harder to understand than Gojo. The first time I read the manga before watching JJK 0 and he seemed kind of the more serious and dutiful than Gojo. Like he was joking around and stuff, but he always put his job first I think. Its so interesting how their character motivations change to be the opposite over time where Gojo literally gave 0 fucks at first at the beginning of the season and Geto saw it as an obligation to protect the weak then over the course of that year or two they swap positions. The thing is they didn't actually swap positions in my opinion necessarily. I don't think Geto ever really stops with his philosophy of "the strong have a duty to protect the weak." IMO I think he just changes who it is he considers the weak— at first, he thinks that JJS sorcerers are the strong and they have powers that ordinary people don't so ergo they have a duty to save them from curses as the ordinary people cannot save themselves. Later though, he realizes JJS sorcerers are such a small minority and minorities will always be the underdog to an extent. There are other types of power that sorcerers need protecting from such as money, political power, social power, etc. It's the clearest when he rescues Mimiko and Nanako. They are sorcerers (or soon to be) and yet they're abused and put through hell because they aren't understood by the villagers who are close minded and label them as others— aka a minority who is bullied by the majority. It’s a little less obvious with Haibara’s death (the underclassman along with Nanami) because it’s technically the higher ups’ fucked up negligence that led to his death but in a round about way, if they weren’t overworked protecting so many people, then it still wouldn’t have technically happened and also the jujutsu sorcerers get paid through exorcising curses and such— money from people they’re supposed to protect. So technically I think they’re overworked because the higher-ups keep sending them out without care for their safety partially because they need to but also cuz money talks sort of. They should be prioritizing the safety of the sorcerers as an expendable resource more than lives of people who aren’t (hate to say this) because the amount of people they could save in the future would far greater outweigh the number of those who would die if they didn’t send them out immediately. It’s not just a matter of overworking them but also that they didn’t even do the proper research beforehand before sending Haibara and Nanami. There’s also Fushiguro Toji who is technically not a sorcerer as he has 0 cursed energy and yet he managed to do more damage during the whole Riko arc than anyone else. How can non-sorcerers be the weak ones when it’s always the sorcerers who keep getting injured and dying? Also that other first grade sorcerer, Tsukumo, kind of unknowingly accelerates this flip too. She puts the blame on these non-sorcerers for basically creating curses because JJS sorcerers can’t technically create curses and he’s like “So they’re (the non-sorcerers) are the whole problem and I need to protect the “weaker” sorcerers from them.” He kind of immediately sticks to this and once he snaps and kills that whole village, he needs to back up his actions. He’s too far gone otherwise. Remember Geto says that there needs to be “meaning” behind actions especially as a sorcerer so once he does this, he kind of has to retroactively commit to this meaning he’s created for himself. He can’t turn back because otherwise, didn’t he just kill a whole lot of people for essentially no reason? I’m not talking about the people actively abusing Mimiko and Nanako, but like you said all the people in that village including children. He kills his parents because (btw they’re non-sorcerers I believe) and he just needs to commit to his whole thing about ridding the world of non-sorcerers and if he can’t even kill his own parents then how can he get rid of all the others. It’s like putting his money where his mouth is kind of. Meanwhile, this theory has much less subtext to "prove" it so to speak, but this is just how I view it. It's much harder to figure out why Gojo starts caring about Geto's ideals when it seemingly feels like Geto himself threw those ideals away. We see that until Geto defects that Gojo doesn't seem to care about the moral aspect. He's never necessarily a-moral or evil the way Sukuna is portrayed, but he is more just doing it out of I assume a want to not quite fit-in, but so he doesn't really cross the boundaries of humanity. He could so easily kill people that annoy him and not one person can actually stop him or impose any consequences, but he doesn't and allows Suguru to take the lead with that cult after Riko’s death. He literally puts his entire morality into Geto’s hands. He's willing to commit murder or whatever easily when he perceives there to be a genuine cause for it— like he'd be willing to fight the higher ups and destroy them because he perceives the execution of Yuuta and Yuji as wrong. Its almost established that Gojo does not care about other people much in comparison to people he’s close to IMO. This is all obviously speculation, but I feel like Geto himself did not influence his morals so much as Geto turning his back on his own initial ideals does. What I mean by that— I think Gojo doesn't actually necessarily care at all about civilians or weaker people at all. He's kind of overly blasé about the dangers his own students get into sometimes ( ie. during JJK 0 he sends in Panda and Inumaki knowing they will get hurt and knowing they could die very easily). However, I think Gojo's biggest motivation is creating the sort of world Geto wanted and expected when they were in school. I think Gojo cares so much about his friend that even when his friend becomes disillusioned and turns his back on that version of himself at first, Gojo won't. I almost think he is almost simply doing what Suguru would've wanted him to if they were still naive high schoolers and trying to create a world where they— Geto specifically— can almost go back to that. Maybe trying to fulfill his friend's dream in a way? I don't think Gojo would've quite cared at all about this stuff if it wasn't for Geto turning away from them in the first place. The only concrete example I can pull up in my head is that Gojo doesn't go to talk to Megumi until after that fight with Geto even though over a year had passed since the fight with Toji. He doesn’t actively want to change the Jujutsu world until after Geto abandons Jujutsu high. This is all just my rambling but I love them both so much as character foils of each other. It’s so well done. I don’t necessarily support Geto’s actions obviously but like I can sort of see it because he’s kind of like ‘protect me and my own over the lives of others’ especially because he cares so much during JJK 0 about the other sorcerers under him and even calls them family. Sorry for the extensive comment. It’s just my two cents lol and maybe I’m reading too much into it.