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Salary Lupin - Ep. 3 (Patreon)

Published:
2022-03-10 01:27:19
Edited:
2022-03-10 01:27:32
Imported:
2022-07

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PASSWORD: karaoke

Wasn't expecting to tear up at the end here but I guess this is the theme of the week 🤣🤣🤣

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode! I died at Granny Seonghwa hahahaha so adorable!!

Hope you're all enjoying watching along 😍😍😍 

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Comments

SB

Ugh I always tear up at the end with the letters, it gets me so emotional 0_0

SwollenGoggles

According to Hongjoong through the Universe app, the letter was actually written by his dad. He said "If everything is written by moms then the dad will be sad." He has recently mentioned the many conversations he's had with his dad on their most recent vacation back home and how he's opening up to him now. His dad even sent him lyrics after dropping him off back at the dorm after thinking about what they spoke about in the car. He also said his dad just recently gave him a book to read to find wisdom about a conversation they had during the holiday.

Kiara

Pleaseeeee react to ATEEZ's behind/making of their Kingdom Performances!!!

Melanie Lillis
>>79510545

oh wow that's fascinating. Thank you for sharing! It makes me happy to know that he is growing closer to his dad and is opening up. Having a father who you can share your burdens with would be extremely comforting for a person under his kind of pressure!

SwollenGoggles

There's 5 total 1. Wave:Overture https://youtu.be/1QZRen--ut8 2. Symphony No.9 From the Wonderland https://youtu.be/gHU9qK06oSU 3. The Awakening of Summer https://youtu.be/cvb3Q-lFi90 4. Answer: Ode to Joy https://youtu.be/yo683RimyHg 5. The Real https://youtu.be/_uxR7iHep3Q

SwollenGoggles
>>79539335

There's also this performance film teaser that everyone seems to forget about in which one member from each group did a dance break. The representing members were The Boyz-Juyeon, Stray Kids- Lee Know, Ateez -San, BTOB-Minhyuk, SF9-Taeyang, and IKON-DK. (https://youtu.be/RKQEfIOSKW8)

Linaccessible. (edited)

Comment edits

2023-01-01 20:44:32 HJ is very close to his family, as you can tell. He never stops praising his big brother who he considers as his ultimate role model in life, both as an artist since he's a professional contemporary dancer and actor, and as a person. He's actually the one who choreographed HJ's little intro for MAMA 2021. When we saw him on that log video teaching hj his dance ... It was a double attack and atinytown was a mess💀 . They truly look the same, yet are charming in very different ways. ... And I think it's best that I stop here or this will soon start to be an essay on the royal Kim brothers (fun fact to a fellow armytiny : HJ, his brother (obviously), Taehyung and Jin are all descendants of the same ancient Korean prince. Gwangsan Kim clan blood must have something special, here's a family photo (ft another important Kim): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Fq4NVIAIaz7d?format=jpg&name=medium) But back to HJ's family. As I was saying, he's very close to his parents. He makes an effort to call them every day, and he will always talk about how he's thankful for their love, support, and education. Obviously, I wouldn't even dare say everything was rainbow (i mean we know he tried to run away at least once) but I think this is why he is so sensitive towards issues related to children (Polished Man, Save the Children ....). He once said that "my interest started when I wished that everyone could grow up as comfortably as I did, without that pain and suffering" 😭😭 Honestly every time they talk about their parents I just want to cry. Like San's father for example. What a loving father figure and just a kind person overall! San is definitely taking after him in that regard. Always sending individual and sweet messages to the boys, calling them "the sons of my heart who are always working hard", calling Mingi every week during his hiatus ... Some of my best friends' parents still struggles with my name 😭
2022-03-10 23:23:58 HJ is very close to his family, as you can tell. He never stops praising his big brother who he considers as his ultimate role model in life, both as an artist since he's a professional contemporary dancer and actor, and as a person. He's actually the one who choreographed HJ's little intro for MAMA 2021. When we saw him on that log video teaching hj his dance ... It was a double attack and atinytown was a mess💀 . They truly look the same, yet are charming in very different ways. ... And I think it's best that I stop here or this will soon start to be an essay on the royal Kim brothers (fun fact to a fellow armytiny : HJ, his brother (obviously), Taehyung and Jin are all descendants of the same ancient Korean prince. Gwangsan Kim clan blood must have something special, here's a family photo (ft another important Kim): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Fq4NVIAIaz7d?format=jpg&name=medium) But back to HJ's family. As I was saying, he's very close to his parents. He makes an effort to call them every day, and he will always talk about how he's thankful for their love, support, and education. Obviously, I wouldn't even dare say everything was rainbow (i mean we know he tried to run away at least once) but I think this is why he is so sensitive towards issues related to children (Polished Man, Save the Children ....). He once said that "my interest started when I wished that everyone could grow up as comfortably as I did, without that pain and suffering" 😭😭 Honestly every time they talk about their parents I just want to cry. Like San's father for example. What a loving father figure and just a kind person overall! San is definitely taking after him in that regard. Always sending individual and sweet messages to the boys, calling them "the sons of my heart who are always working hard", calling Mingi every week during his hiatus ... Some of my best friends' parents still struggles with my name 😭

HJ is very close to his family, as you can tell. He never stops praising his big brother who he considers as his ultimate role model in life, both as an artist since he's a professional contemporary dancer and actor, and as a person. He's actually the one who choreographed HJ's little intro for MAMA 2021. When we saw him on that log video teaching hj his dance ... It was a double attack and atinytown was a mess💀 . They truly look the same, yet are charming in very different ways. ... And I think it's best that I stop here or this will soon start to be an essay on the royal Kim brothers (fun fact to a fellow armytiny : HJ, his brother (obviously), Taehyung and Jin are all descendants of the same ancient Korean prince. Gwangsan Kim clan blood must have something special, here's a family photo (ft another important Kim): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH6Fq4NVIAIaz7d?format=jpg&name=medium) But back to HJ's family. As I was saying, he's very close to his parents. He makes an effort to call them every day, and he will always talk about how he's thankful for their love, support, and education. Obviously, I wouldn't even dare say everything was rainbow (i mean we know he tried to run away at least once) but I think this is why he is so sensitive towards issues related to children (Polished Man, Save the Children ....). He once said that "my interest started when I wished that everyone could grow up as comfortably as I did, without that pain and suffering" 😭😭 Honestly every time they talk about their parents I just want to cry. Like San's father for example. What a loving father figure and just a kind person overall! San is definitely taking after him in that regard. Always sending individual and sweet messages to the boys, calling them "the sons of my heart who are always working hard", calling Mingi every week during his hiatus ... Some of my best friends' parents still struggles with my name 😭

화성
>>79561401

don't want to be rude but I had to point out that Hongjoong "running away" is incorrect because he only ran away from attending the classes at the academy one day and not his home + the reason was nothing but because he didn't want to got to it and not anything close to what you portrayed in your comment. He explained that as soon as his mom knew, she told him to not go if he didn't feel like it because it's his choice + you already mentioned the quote from his vlive talking about the issue but contradicted that with the sentence before it making it as if he's sensitive to the issue because of him running away since "not everything was rainbow" when he said that he lived a happy and comfortable life. Please make sure to share the stories by conveying them properly or at least make sure if they were translated correctly because some tend to do the opposite unfortunately.

Linaccessible.
>>79561401

I don't take any offense to your comment, but I do think you're mistaken about my intentions here 😅 So allow me to explain myself, pls. And just like you, please don't think I'm trying to be rude. Also, note that I may have trouble expressing myself as English isn't my first or even second language. The run away from school was definitely an oversight as I thought I mentioned that it was an attempt to "run away from cram school when he was in 4th grade" (ironically I even remember searching the proper translation of "hagwon") but obviously, I didn't write it in the end 🤦‍♀️And for that, I'm definitely sorry. However, I don't feel like I'm contradicting myself after that. In fact, I think you have misread/misinterpreted the rest of my comment and my intention because of that omission (and probably rightfully so). I'm not sure what you understood by "Obliviously, I wouldn't even dare say everything was rainbow", but it was never to imply that something horrid happened. It's just what debaters call a 'duh statement' used to basically affirm the obvious: that nothing is perfect/not everything can be rainbow in a relationship. Because I truly do believe that "not everything being rainbow" and "happy and comfortable life" are not mutually exclusive. It's pretty normal, common, and some may even say 'healthy' to be angry or fight with your family/friends. And that's why I tried to provide (poorly, it seems) an example of HJ and his parents having a disagreement. And as I'm writing this, I'm also recalling his phone call with his mother when he said he was thankful for both the sweet and bitter lessons she taught him. Feels like we've all been furious and frustrated with our parents' decision at some point, only to realize, after growing up, that they were right and had our best interest at heart. But I'm starting to digress. When I said "this is why" in "this is why he is so sensitive towards issues related to children", I was actually referring to the "[his parents'] love, support, and education" part of the previous sentence, thus me using his quote to illustrate and emphasize my point: that he lived a happy and comfortable life, and therefore wants every child to have that opportunity too. My comment was meant to be read as: "He's thankful for his parents' love and support. Obliviously nothing is perfect (aha fun fact about him 'trying to run away' from school to play soccer at 10 yo by hiding for 2-3 hours in a playground) but it's definitely because of this love that he's interested in the issue + vlive quote". If anyone understood anything else, then I'm sorry. So, rest assured that I do check my sources, thoroughly, and I don't try to portray anything. Conveying an anecdote in a few words can be really challenging (for example I could argue that your statement about his mother accepting his choice when he first voiced it isn't correct either as his attempt to run away was actually caused by his mother forcing him to attend school when he said he didn't want to ... not nitpicking here, just proving my point) But I do agree with you, it's counterproductive when you sum up a story and forgot to write half of the sentence, as I did 😅. In any case, I hope I made myself clearer (i probably wrote more than I should have but I didn't want anything to be "lost in translation" again) and I appreciate the opportunity your comment gave me to do just that. 🤗 (Side note: try to avoid using "don't want to be rude but" as an opener as it implies that you'll indeed be rude after that statement. Definitely not a cool way to start a healthy discussion. Especially on the internet 😥 Because after that when I read your comment, it felt a bit patronizing and like you were trying to prove that I did that to be misleading or deceitful when really it was just an honest forgetfulness. And it's probably why I felt like I had to defend myself instead of just acknowledging your point in the end .)

화성
>>79561401

if people want to take the statement of "don't want to be rude but" as an implication of wanting to be rude afterwards then its their fault and not the the person writing it, just because few tend to use that statement to actually be rude then not everyone will cater to that. Again you said you look through sources carefully etc. yet you claimed that his mother "forced" him when she didn't. You said that as an argument to "my" statement when none of what I said was stated by me but by Hongjoong himself. he himself literally explained that he never opposed his mother's choice of signing him to the academy so she never knew what he thought of it until he ran away from classes. You using "not everything is rainbow" especially after talking about the misinformation you provided do indeed tell the reader what I had understood and wrote in my first comment. Him talking about the "sweet and bitter" lessons he learned is something he still never shared with us so to take his "running away from school" incident and put it under that is still not the good thing to do because that's basically assuming something about him and his life/parents when he didn't specify anything and was talking in general. Both him and his mother basically had a miscommunication on the academy issue because he never opposed and she took it as him not having an issue with it, so that's technically not a "lesson" so we don't have the right to put it under that especially when he himself didn't. His parents at first were opposed of his career choice but they supported him when they saw him debut so you could've shared that as your example of disagreement between family members and not the misinformation. I understand your take in trying to fill in fans who are new to ATEEZ and might not have been exposed to a lot of information, but I'll say just provide what the boys shared instead of having your take on it which might make some people believe it for some reason. Again, my comments are in no way rude or attacking but its been so tiring seeing how many misinformation being provided to newer fans that literally leaves bad impressions ( ex: when ATINYs misinterpreted Mnet's translation during "Treasure Film" and started assuming that San's father a deadbeat when they themselves decide to have their take on it and cause unnecessary issues.)

Linaccessible.
>>79561401

I totally get that it's frustrating when misinformation spreads but if you read my posts, especially as I explained myself again, I am in no way saying anything that is disrespecting or depicting HJ's parents in a bad way, as it was the case for San's father. As I previously stated, the comment about the "running away" story was intended as a fun fact, and a light-hearted comment as most of my comments had been on this Patreon. Yet, I do feel like you're kind of nitpicking now. As previously expressed, I was only using your argument to illustrate my previous point which was the difficulty of summarizing a story into a single sentence without unfortunately sacrificing details in general (and I'm not even talking about my original post, the details there were crucial but I dumbly forgot to write them, as I stated and acknowledged before ). I didn't bring up your sentence to say that she forced him because she was some sort of an authoritarian and strict mother. It was HJ who said it. I'm aware of the misunderstanding but it wasn't and is still not particularly relevant to the point made here. I genuinely don't know what you think my sources are, but I literally sat in front of HJ and YS's live, listening to HJ telling the story himself. That day she did force him to go to cram school even though he said he wasn't going (because he wanted to avoid the punishment for not doing his homework again). She dropped him off, and when she left, he proceeded to hide until the school called his mom and she tried to contact him unsuccessfully. When he dared to answer her calls, she comforted him saying "you don't have to go there anymore, and we can talk about it" (tbh the way she dealt with that was impressive and inspiring). And you know what? I'll do us both a favor and drop the live, so everyone stumbling into this discussion can have fun actually listening to HJ recalling his anecdote and have even more context and details that neither of us could provide in one setting: https://www.vlive.tv/video/110147). Also, I gave already an explanation on the "not everything is rainbow" part and while I understand that at first it came off that way (which I also acknowledged as a consequence of my mistake), pls try to understand what I'm saying in my second post. And while I appreciate the point you tried to make on the "sweet and bitter lessons" stop extrapolating pls 😓 I never said nor thought to associate the "sweet and bitter lessons" with his escapade incident since, for the nth time now, that incident was meant to be a sweet fun fact about what he did as a 4th grader, not something that big of a deal really and definitely not a lesson. In fact, if you read my comment, you'll see that the paragraph was mainly focusing on the "not everything is rainbow" as to say that yep nothing is smooth in life in general, in a relationship (in this case parents/child) or in growing up. Which then made me think of "the bitter and sweet lessons" comment. Nothing more, nothing less. (And why I didn't use the disagreement about him becoming an idol? It's probably 'cause I didn't feel informed enough to share that one. 🤷‍♀️)

Linaccessible.
>>79561401

I honestly don't doubt that you didn't want to come off as rude. But I'm telling you, as the recipient of those messages, I felt that both of your comments are antagonistic as you're literally contradicting everything I'm saying without actually making an effort to understand what I'm saying, and making assumptions yourself (about my thinking process even) when telling me not to make them. You're also invalidating my feelings by saying that it's my fault if I perceive your comments as being a tad on the aggressive side. All I'm saying is that you could have easily said "Oh I think there is misinformation/confusion here, let me clear that up. Actually, this happened ...". I've apologized for my mistake, and obviously, I don't intend (never did) to misinform anyone. So now I don't know what more to say. But if you feel like I'm still being misleading somehow, please do assume that it's me being french and not knowing how to express my thoughts properly in English, or I guess my DMs are open if you feel the need to educate me more. As far as I'm concerned, I don't intend to overindulge in this debate and want to leave Melanie's peaceful space as it is 😊

화성
>>79561401

Are you sure you watched that vlive and understood it correctly? because if you did then you would’ve known that she never forced him to go to school but only on one specific day she did and he literally said “she didn’t know the reason behind me not wanting to go that day”, in which as any parents she made him go just in case he won’t fall behind in school work or be lazy. No one was nitpicking here. You are STILL holding on to the fact you accepted that you’re wrong yet you kept providing wrong information over and over. Your statement about him running away first was as if he ran away from home then when I corrected it, you claimed he ran away from school because he was “forced” when the situation was nothing like that. There was never a debate to begin with, you provided wrong infos and I corrected you and you obviously doesn’t want to accept it as you keep on providing more incorrect information. Also here a tip: don’t tell others how to comment or what to say because it’s rude :] every comment of mine literally had zero rude implications and yet here you are telling me how to respond and write, which if you never knew is rude. I corrected your comment and you still went on to writing unnecessary long comments that still back my first comment up so I’m honestly not going to waste my time on this and save myself of literally repeating everything over and over when you obviously trying a little too hard to make yourself right. Another tip: in the future, don’t put your take on the boys’ stories if you wanted to share them and just share them as they are to avoid not only misinformations but it’s rude to begin with having your take on strangers’ life stories that they never asked for from you.