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THE LAST GREAT MAGE???? | FRIEREN: Beyond Journey's End EPISODE 21 | New Anime Fan! | REACTION (Patreon)

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WHO IS THE STRONGEST MAGE????

Here is the FULL and UNBLURRED reaction to FRIEREN Episode 21!!

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Orieng

Flamme means Flames in Danish :) Like the color of her hair

ArtKi

4:23 "Could Flamme defeat Frieren now?" Recall the flashback were Flamme NUKED 3 demons with no advance warning. Frieren killed the demon flower quickly and fought the executioner demon in the cell but I don't think those were as quick. Frieren did block the magic wire around her neck real fast but that was mana control - not an offensive spell. Frieren had the opportunity to annihilate Aura but didn't try. She wanted to make Aura use her power and have it backfire. It's unclear. We've seen Flamme deal instant destruction and Frieren hasn't been under that much pressure. 32:25 ref the water mage and water in the body. If you can see the eyeballs you can see the Aqueous humour inside it. Don't know if she can manipulate "watery" liquid.

FaerieRose

Day 4 of requesting we watch Ascendance of a Bookworm after Vinland Saga. If you like the more relaxed, slice of life parts of Frieren, I think you’ll enjoy Bookworm. There’s more to the series than that, of course, but daily life and relationships form the heart.

js

I've seen as much as you, but my guess for power would be: Serie > Frieren (current) > Flamme > Frieren (young) The "last great mage" phrase makes me think that maybe it was known that there was a specific number of "great mages" who held a holy emblem, and the identity of all of them was known except for one - Frieren. It would make sense considering she had to keep a low profile before killing the demon king.

Ante

Funny detail but when Fern mentions she has a spell to see through clothes Land also changes his position somewhat so his legs cover his groin

Frederik

Some interesting stuff that was Said in tis Episode: 1. "Magic is a world of visual Imagination" 2. When First Meeting flammes master Flamme Said to Serie "after all you cant Imagine living in a peaceful era" So i think that even If Serie wantet to defekt the demon King she wouldnt be able to because that would start a peaceful era Idk If i am thinking too much Here but i think IT makes sense

Some0neElse

13:31 Nooooo! It should have been me! :D

js
>>129178898

It might be what the author intended, but personally I don't like that interpretation because having to visualize eventual consequences rather than visualizing the spell itself would get too messy. That would be like being unable to conjure a fireball because you intended to fire it at a tree and you can't visualize a completely burned down forest. Plus we all know people by themselves will have wars with each other with no need for demons. In my head canon Serie just won't defeat the demon king because she's a bit sadistic and enjoys watching humans struggle against demons. But she wouldn't go as far as to stop others from doing it - heck she might find that to be entertaining to watch as well.

Marcio Neves

This episode was fantastic 😁

Andy Hinton

Another anime that does fight scenes with good dialog that does end up breaking up things or becomes annoying is World Trigger.

yousef salem

isn't Hunter Hunter today? or am I wrong?

Toasterfinal5

Starks appearance in the last moments of the episode ? I couldn’t help but laugh, a lot. I loved how they ended the episode on such a light note.

FaerieRose
>>129175143

And it’s only one letter away from the English word “flame.”

Azizella

I'm guessing the holy emblem is some kind of medal given to the best of mages back in the day. Someone like Serie who probably has one and I assume Flamme also had one. Frierens holy emblem might aswell be the one Flamme had if she did have one and it sorta got passed down.

Fabien

You can just say "flam" for Flamme, it's french for flame, le "e" is silent. Same for Methode (another character later), which is just french for method. The japanese voice actor tries not the pronounce the e, but it still seems like they pronounce it because well japanese people can't pronounce foreign stuff.

Eleyvie
>>129178898

I'm not sure it's about visualizing the consequences, more like that Serie understands that her victory will result in a world that she won't belong in, and that understanding is what's sapping her resolve and thus magical strength. There are plenty of moments in Frieren where the mage's inner resolve seems to be way more important than direct comparison of mana levels or casting skill.

KeanuofRivia

I love how Stark is like a guy who's wife went on a business trip 😂 "I can stay up late and Game 😁"

KeanuofRivia
>>129176096

It may be a temperament difference. Frieren doesn't seem to like wasted effort so I feel like she almost always uses the barest of what's necessary. Flamme seemed to prefer a more destructive approach and was willing to go for the Overkill. She even states that it won't be her that beats the Demon King because she isn't peaceful enough. I personally think Frieren is stronger now but she never shows her full power so it's hard to know

Sprucefer

Denken has said numerous times that he doesn't consider becoming a first class mage worth killing someone and ordered Richter to not kill earlier. There's no way those 2 guys were killed, don't worry.

Dominique Stoel
>>129198037

They're German though, pretty much everything in Frieren is either German or German inspired. So you definitely do pronounce the "e" in both.

dpolaristar

I have a theory the Demon King has some kind of spell that warps perception on a level of the entire collective unconscious and that's why he was unable to be defeated because he could convince everyone where they could not comprehend or see a world where he wasn't the Demon King. The reason Himmel's Party succeeded where other's failed is much how Himmel was able to change Frieren's perspective he was able to change the perspective of the rest of the world to see what he sees. Those sidequests he would do on the way take on new weight. Plus remember even when he was old and frail, the Demons didn't start collaborating together until after he died, almost as if his very presence was affecting the Demon's King's magic/will even long after the death of the Demon King.

Casey Mitchell (edited)

Comment edits

2024-02-09 06:33:30 Denken: "I might be out of spell slots, but I'm not out of FIST SLOTS!"
2024-02-09 05:51:10 Denken: "I might be out of spell slots, but I'm not out of FIST SLOTS!"

Denken: "I might be out of spell slots, but I'm not out of FIST SLOTS!"

Fabien
>>129198037

Oh ok, maybe then. The 2 words aren't very german-ish since they spreaded to German from French, but maybe the mangaka doesn't know that and indeed just intended a German theme. There's also names for places in Frieren, like Aureole and Appetit which are typical French words that were later adopted in German with identical spelling.

Ross Leonen

Hmmm. I think both her party members are strong enough to be first class. Just a guess. I mean, Lawine froze an entire lake and the other test takers can't even melt it. This is probably why she hasn't recovered much mana yet to fight on par with Richter. Kanne on the other hand has a big handicap of needing water to reach her potential, but her water manipulation alone to that degree feels like it's a 1st class mage material.

Frentzy

Will you do a reaction to frieren special ending (millet bliss) full version, did appear few days ago.

PolishWizard

No, Flamme is not stronger than the current Frieren.

BRUNO Marques

Serie is, as stated in the previous episode, the closest to the all powerful Goddess. She is also a Great Mage, you get to see a little of how powerful she is /isn't later. She is older than Frieren.

Fusssel
>>129198037

but stuff like "Sense", "Genau", "Denken", "Laufen", "Richter", "Eisen", "Himmel", "Heiter" and much more are clearly german. Also, as I am not a linguist, are you sure they came from frensh to german? Couldn't it also be other way round? On the other hand, yeah, french was the language of the court in europe for a while, but that only was for nobility and so on, not for your everyday person. Also the Franks ruled over the region for a while and influenced the romance language with germanic words. Who knows, like I said, no linguist, just it is clearly german inspired the words in Frieren and not french, aside form Aureole maybe, that word doesn't exist in german.

BRUNO Marques
>>129226242

It's not that complicated. The Demon King was alive for thousands of years and was naturally absurdly strong. As mentioned in the last few episodes, magic is about visualization. You can do anything at all if you believe in it truly. The Hero party all had reasons to believe they could defeat the Demon King. And they did. Serie and Flamme could have beaten him if combat prowess was all that mattered, but they never would have because they could only see themselves fighting against him, but never actually imagine an end to their fight.

Fusssel
>>129198037

well, in the end it doesn't even really matter. The words do exist in german and it is the german writing, so the pronounciation is also to be german.

Fabien
>>129198037

Fusssel-> Hi, no linguist here too, I just like etymology. But for your question, the german spelling is identical to the french spelling (a very typical spelling for french words), the 2 words come respectively from latin and greek. For flamme and it's equivalents, I think (no hard proof, but I can search for it) it was latin -> french -> german (and greek -> latin -> french -> german for methode) because french is a latin language (very heavily and close to Italian in its written form) and because the spelling is very "french" (hard to explain). Yeah french has germanic words, and in general there's a germanic heritage in France. But it's not the case for those two words, which explained my confusion (but I understand the German influence on Frieren now, don't worry). For the record, the words of frankish origins are actually relatively limited in numbers in french, it seems it's really the pronunciation that was heavily influenced by the franks, explaining why despite how the written form of Italian and French are close, French sounds nothing like Italian or Spanish. The spoken language is another world.

Fusssel
>>129198037

Interesting, and yeah, that a lot of words come from Latin and or Greek is well known to me at least 😄 And I am not worrying about people not getting that it is german in frieren, just wenn someone asks or is interested, I answer/correct people, nothing more 👍

Kyle Garrett

Personally I assume Frieren will end up against Fern and choose to lose to let Fern have the title (or better yet, Fern actually beats her). Though I could see Frieren getting the title in the end anyway, since her ability to break the 'unbreakable' barrier should be enough to prove her worth for the title.

Katie Wyatt
>>129176096

I don't know how much you've seen, so I won't try to spoil anything, but hopefully, in these upcoming episodes, you get to see the second test. In the second test Frieren proves she's the strongest when she actually has to fight seriously.

Stefan

At some point I forgot we have Stark here too:)) I liked the magic fist fight:D The world will turn upside down:)

Hououin Kyouma

Luke, have some faith in Frieren and Fern. They are neither Light nor Lelouch.