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LGR - Loading PC Games from Reel to Reel (Patreon)

Published:
2021-03-06 02:33:54
Edited:
2021-03-12 17:35:49
Imported:
2021-03

Content

https://youtu.be/d60V9yAPE_s

Greetings! I've got kind of a simpler LGR thing this time just for a bit of fun: saving and loading data on reel to reel tapes!

This uses a DOS program called KCS, the line in and out of a sound card, and any just about any tape recorder. Of course, the idea here was to use one of the reel to reel variety, and specifically make use of its 15 inches per second speed. Because we can.

Files

Loading PC Games from Reel to Reel Tape!

Let's encode some PC data on tape using the Kansas City Standard! Dozens of retro computers used audio cassette tapes as their method of loading and saving software, but using reel to reel tape? Now that’s more exciting -- and complete overkill with 10.5" reels at 15 inches per second. ● LGR links: https://www.patreon.com/LazyGameReviews https://www.twitter.com/LazyGameReviews https://www.facebook.com/LazyGameReviews ● Here's a link to the KCS 0.8 software I used: https://archive.org/details/kcs08 ● Music courtesy of: http://www.epidemicsound.com #LGR #Retro #Technology

Comments

Anonymous

Now is because he asks the important questions like this that I subscribe to LGR

Anonymous

Where is Techmoan.

Anonymous

That is a particularly lovely deck my dude :D

LazyGameReviews
>>55021976

Thanks! An LGR viewer got in touch after hearing me talk about wanting a nice R2R deck on an episode of Thrifts, and he put me in touch with his father who sells them on Etsy. He gave me a fair deal on it and packed it extremely well!

Anonymous

Awesome stuff as always. Have you seen any of DankPods videos? he often mentions you and techmoan and in his latest video mentioned both being a fan of yours and also wanting to get into reel to reel collecting but expressed how crazy expensive it is... and here is you playing canyon.mid off it, love it!

Jim Leonard

Will you be adding a link to the KCS software in the description of the final video?

Anonymous

That was REELY good!

Anonymous

I know it wasnt going to be practical, but I am disappointed we didnt get to see Duke 3D on tape.

LazyGameReviews
>>55025829

If only I had tens of thousands of feet worth of tape and several days to record them, ha. 6+ megabytes would be one hefty stack of reels.

DFawlt Uzr

I always love when you get weird and do stuff like this, what a fun video to watch!

Anonymous

This sounds like something I would do just to see if I could. Awesome!

PiraTed

Clint has to be stopped!! Today's it's just reel to reel shenanigans. But soon... "Today on LGR, we'll be using a local fcc dtv tower to backup a pc wirelessly to my house using the danmere backup system!!." A week later "Greetings today we'll be looking at some prison oddware. Most notably this spoon that's also a fork!!"

Anonymous

Thanks for video. This tickled me just the right way. And there are few things better than waking up to Canyon.mid on a Saturday morning :)

Alyxx the Rat

Absolute madlad, lmao. I love how versatile loading data via audio is. You can technically load it from any storage medium capable of storing audio. Vinyls, VHS and compact cassette tapes, reel-to-reels, CDs (as audio and not as actual data), etc. It's always hilarious and fascinating to store data on something you don't normally associate with data. And yeah this is beyond impractical. Nobody nowadays wants to wait almost 10 minutes to load up a Kroz game but sometimes it's worth doing just for the sake of doing it.

CubicleNate

Perhaps, and some strange post-apocalyptic world, where only VHS decks are left, we can still play our 1980s games being read off vhs. 😁 Truly, it was an interesting thought experiment and exploration on your part. I wonder if something could be done for storing data on VHS but taking advantage of the video space as well as audio for data. I wonder what the theoretical practical maximum data storage is of a VHS tape.

Anonymous
>>55038409

If you haven't seen it, this earlier LGR video looked at a product that backed up to VHS, although I think that only used the video bandwidth and ignored audio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUS0Zv2APjU

Anonymous

You could cheat a bit and speed up encoded wavs before recording them to the tape and then slow them down before decoding. Seems like this tape could handle much higher speed.

Anonymous

I don't know how it could be done, but it would be absolutely great (and ridiculous) to put DOS on tape, and somehow boot from it.

Braxen

Could the first character be the byte length of the file or the checksum?

BastetFurry

Next time on LGR: Loading Commander Keen from paper tape

Valora Inverse

Saw this crop up in my email and muttered "Clint, you fuckin' madman" as I opened it. Sad that Doom was far too impractical for this, but still an excellent time.

Anonymous

I loved my old Teac reel-to-reel machine. It was a musical wonder, for sure.

Brian Lawson

This was a real trip down memory lane for me. As an Audio-Radio salesman in college, I sold Tandberg Tape Recorders for Sam Goody in NYC. I also own both of the KC standard devices you showed, the SWTPC AC30 and the Percom CIS+ (rockin' it at 1200 baud) that I had for my SWTPC 6800 system. That Pioneer receiver was also familiar since I owned a similar model.

Anonymous

I love this kind of wackiness for its own sake. I think I've shared this story, but back in high school, my grandfather had an organ with a built in Leslie speaker, and I wanted that sound on my guitar. And it also had a tape deck for playing back recordings, and could do that through the Leslie. So I used one of those car CD adapter cassette thingies, and routed from my amp's headphone output to the car adapter to the tape deck to the Leslie speaker. As much to see if I could as anything else.

Uncleawesome

I see you a recording with a zoom recorder of some kind. Perhaps you know this. I bought the zoom h5. Would you be worried about connecting it to different sound cards or will the line in be able to handle it? I broke the line input on my laptop because of to high volume.

Anonymous

I think I need a “there is no practical reason to do what we are about to do” t-shirt.

Anonymous

I wonder if you could record files on CD? Not CD-ROM, but audio CD.

Anonymous

absolutely love it!

Rick Green
>>55109685

SHHHH! Don't give him ideas! ...Actually, give him ideas like that.

Anonymous

I have to wonder if LGR can take an MP3 of the song “Kansas City” and save it to tape as a file. (I was hoping for more KC schtick.)

Anonymous
>>55045016

Well, you can boot from vinyl: https://hackaday.com/2020/11/23/booting-a-pc-from-vinyl-for-a-warmer-richer-os/

LazyGameReviews
>>55070706

I've never had any problems with it! Been using that H2n to record all kinds of sound cards and wildly different audio sources, new and old, since 2013 and it's still good.

LazyGameReviews
>>55049849

I'm holding out hope that an even madder madman will get in touch letting me know how it can be done after this video goes live, heh. Someone's had to have tried to load Doom from tape using crazy compression or something.