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Attack on Titan 4x14 REACTION! | "Savagery"

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Monii

Man that Armin/Mikasa/Eren convo really hits me every time I watch it. Imagine if all of them at 10 years old would've seen how it was right now, they wouldn't know how to react and wouldn't believe it. Also everything you guys said about loving Eren but not supporting his actions currently are where I am with him to. No matter what, I love him and all our main characters. Thank u guys again for the great discussion ^0^ <3

Jaypee87

Floch and this whole Jaegerist coup attempt are so exemplary of how fascist dictatorships operate. Get in line, follow us, or be imprisoned or executed. Yea, don't like Floch at all. Don't care how "well written" he is

Bryonna Yates

The closer you guys get to the end of the season, the more spoilers you're going to get because the fan base is so passionate about what's going on. Beware the comments! Thanks for the lovely reaction you two. One of my favorite episodes because of how shockingly nonchalant it was, like season 2 episode 6.

Zyrus

As if Historia's government isn't a dictatorship in itself. At least Eren's dictatorship is actively working towards something, seemingly.

Carolina

Ange isn't accepting the fact Eren is a monster now, ahahah :D Anyway, Eren isn't my fav character, I find him an eternal teenager, I imagine him being alone in his room listening to My Chemical Romance or Simple Plan while crying, don't know why. He would be a perfect emo kid from 2007. He's changed but hasn't changed a bit, he's a child, he gets angry and makes irrational decisions. Poor Carla, if she were alive... she should beat the crap out of him.

Jaypee87

Perhaps a monarchy under Historia, sure. But Historia seemed to really care about not keeping information from the people, and from what I recall was not imprisoning people at the point of a gun, or getting scouts to gang up on anyone who tolerated the 'old regime'. Historia seemed to genuinely care for the people, free speech, opened up orphanages for disabused children, etc. Don't tell me they are they same thing

Jaypee87

I've already seen a couple of spoiler comments in this thread alone...

Gabriel Barott

I don't think Eren is a monster. I just think he feels that he needs to be, to attain the freedom he seeks. I think he more or less sees himself that way, but is actually just a tragic victim of his circumstances, and an extreme example of "ends justifies the means". #TeamLoveErenButStillDisagreeWithHisChoices

Carolina

Yes, and I still think that "ends justifies the means" because he's an eternal teenager and doesn't think as an adult.

Mr Joker

Hey Ange, good point on saying how Eren's goals haven't changed, only his methods have. One thing I asked myself while watching was "Maybe his methods are still the same? But now that we know the other side's perspective we think different." To me this show is not about sides anymore, it's just about not wanting my favorite characters to die lol

Ivan Haji

Good point you made Ange. Hanji & everyone else are all so quick to attack Eren, yet not a single one of them has come up with a single solution or alternative plan. If Marley ever decided to attack (we all know they would have eventually), not a single nation would have cared enough to intervene. They are where they are because of Eren. He even asked Hanji, if she had any other idea, he would be willing to listen lol.

PepsiMan

imo you can like a character and appreciate them regardless of whether they are good or evil. understanding there perspective is crucial and so is maintaining a neutral view. what im trying to say is its okay to love a character who is evil just appreciating the writing / storytelling is important

Zyrus

It's the exact same thing. The only difference is it's a dictatorship that caters to your self-righteousness.

Jaypee87

This is what frustrates me so much. I get called self righteous because I don't like people holding guns to other people's heads and forcing to think and act a certain way. Ok, if that's your definition, I guess I am. Apparently you will excuse any action as long as it gets you to your own goal. Really stand up character there.

Ivan Haji

Liking a fictional character doesn’t mean we agree with genocide. You could apply the same logic to Joker, Thanos, Frieza. The list goes on. Use common sense people 🤦‍♂️.

Jaypee87

Yea, I really feel for Eren, and understand him to a degree. But eventually you have to draw a line and think for yourself. A tragic story and character for sure.

Anonymous

Exactly. People these days act like anti heroes (not saying EREN is one)aren’t common lol. Some of the most famous and loved characters in books, tv shows, movies, video games and anime are anti heroes that do not so good things.

Anonymous

Ange you're totally in denial, Face it, Eren is an absolute bastard. We've had the villain's POV from the start!

Anonymous

Zyrus how can you defend Floch's actions O_O. Supporting him as a character is understandable but backing up the actions of this regime is crazy, but well, you have the right to be close to fascism what can I say...

Jaypee87

No one's against Eren as a character. Maybe some like him more than others, but I think where the most contention arises is where people are actively supporting Eren/Jaergerists actions as though they're not doing anything questionable. From a writing and development standpoint, Eren is legit one of my favorite characters in all of fiction. But I don't feel that's how the majority of the self described Jaergerists are representing. They are taking a stand on saying what they are doing is right, which I personally find to be absurd.

lily whetsell

well put. he is a well written character and I respect that but I don't actually agree with him. I think people who call themselves jeagerists usually agree with his actions.

Anonymous

I think it's great when ppl aren't necessarily fixated on choosing a side in this but I can understand the pressure. I've seen the show so many times and I still have such mixed feelings about Eren and a few others. Though I don't think the point anymore is even who's "right" but just illustrating how individual people make choices thinking they're doing what needs to be done and other people have to deal with the consequences, and so on, and we can have complicated feelings about characters we love doing shitty things. Just like real life. But yeah I mean at the end of the day it is literally just a show and they're characters we've spent a lot of time with.

Gabriel Barott

I don't think he's an eternal teenager. There are plenty of adults who think this way, and we all to some extent in our lives use the "ends justifies the means" type of ideology. It can be as simple as sacrificing something in your life for a good end result.

DANIEL PEEDAH

This man eren killed 2 fully grown adults at age 10 and got his newly made friend mikasa to also kill at that age and you thought my guy was normal in the head ?

Carolina

Plenty of adults that haven’t grown up. If you think Eren is doing it for his friends, well, I might understand why you are justifying him; but I don’t see it that way (I’m a manga reader). I still think Eren is a selfish teenager that makes irrational choices and doesn’t think straight. Maybe we can discuss it when the anime ends

Gabriel Barott

I believe Eren's motives have always been clear: to save his friends and his people, to attain freedom. To say he loses that ideal to fulfill a selfish goal I feel is a misread of who he is. Unless however, he does something in future episodes to make me think differently. At this moment, I don't believe Eren would do all of this for solely himself.

Amrith

Zeke wanted those glasses so he could read the same book again during the cart ride. How else is he supposed to pass the time?

Carolina

I won’t spoil, but yes that’s his goal from the beginning: freedom and kill all the titans. He surely wants his friends to be happy but his goal is freedom at all costs. It seems like an altruistic thought, but to me it’s extremely selfish since maybe he could have acted in a different way and he makes a lot of people suffer in the meanwhile, even those who he wants to protect and save. That’s why I think he doesn’t think straight and he behaves like a teenager and by instinct. You could care about your people in a lot of ways, to me he chose the worst way (sorry if I can’t explain myself, I’m italian…). So I don’t stand the “ends justifies the means” thing…

Ivan Haji

Yeah I support Eren & the Jeagerests. Because it’s all fiction. Eren is my favorite character in AOT. That’s all. Don’t care about anyone else in the anime. 😂

Guillermo Rodriguez

An eternal teenager... I'm dead. I think people who say things like Grow up have no idea how a human experience is mentally, especially from trauma. Honestly if I was in Erens shoes I'd do the same thing. ....... SPOILER DOWN HERE...... I'd probably just hit the military tho, test run as they say. But hearing the nations call your race devils and wanting to kill you would be enough to say, so it's us or them, yea I'm choosing us. Remember the "World is Cruel " message from ep 6, Death.... I believe that even God has a way to kill. And if Eren does commit Genocide, then nature never acts in haste. Horrible but it was meant to be I guess you can say about everything that's happened.

Kaedjik

Stop saying "we". Tons of people who like Eren and the Jaegerists also agree with their actions. Of course liking Eren doesn't mean you agree with his actions, but you're misrepresenting what actually happens when people talk about this story

Ivan Haji

No, I will say "we". Never claimed I was speaking for everyone anyway. The reality is I also agree with his actions because it is fiction, not real. But I guarantee, 99% of people would agree with his actions even if it was real, (assuming their loved ones/family/friends were all in Paradis Island & threatened by the entire world. Equally, his supporters would be against I'm if their loved ones lived outside Paradis.

Carolina

I understand the trauma, but everyone in the series has trauma. Think of Levi, for example. I know everyone is different, I don’t hate him at all, but to me he’s that friend that everyone has that doesn’t take advices. He rushes and doesn’t think. I hate everything Marley did, but I don’t justify Eren’s behavior