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Radio War Nerd EP #38—Orlando Massacre + Gunnar Hrafn Jonsson (Patreon)

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2016-06-18 00:13:17
Imported:
2023-06

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Islamic State & Orlando Massacre


Guest: Gunnar Hrafn Jonsson, Iceland Public Radio


Another excellent interview with radio journalist Gunnar Hrafn Jonsson of Iceland Public Radio on Islamic State online jihadis' reactions to the Orlando nightclub massacre and their recent battlefield defeats in Syria and Iraq. Gunnar is a longtime student of Islam and maintained online relationships with numerous IS jihadis through early this year, when communications with them have become increasingly difficult . . . Second part of show, we discuss Orlando massacre, the weird world of Omar Mateen's father, Dana Rohrabacher's drag prison visit to Sirhan Sirhan, the CIA analyst who radicalized Dzhokhar Tsarnaev . . . Also, the  world of wars: Cambodia's lost empire rediscovered . . . Ethiopia-Eritrea conflict and why the US has it in for Eritrea . . . Nato's "cyberwar" blather . . .

Total time: 2:36:38


Direct link to this episode's mp3 here.

Also check out our first interview with Gunnar Hrafn Jonsson here.

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Anonymous

Just to clear up Mark Ames’ point about Korea’s “empire”, he has the 16th century date mixed up with the actual 6th century date, which is when there was a state called Goguryeo/Koguryo with its capital in Pyongyang and borders stretching out into Liaodong and Manchurian heartlands. Regardless of the error, he is definitely right about the wounded nationalism, and memories of Koguryo’s greatness runs very strong even in modern-day South Koreans, and is a point of contention with China, who has tried to subsume the histories of all peoples who ever lived in her modern-day borders. This was evidenced most famously back in the 00s in their Northeast project (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Project_of_the_Chinese_Academy_of_Social_Sciences)," rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Project_of_the_Chinese_Academy_of_Social_Sciences),</a> which led to a controversy about whose people “owned” Koguryo. In any case, I think the wounded nationalism-influenced worldview that the war nerd makes is a very good point, which I’ve often found people living in a still-dominant country like the US having a hard time comprehending. In Korea’s case, a lot of the chauvinism stems from the fact that despite its long history, during which the Koreans felt quite proud of their history, once the industrial age rolled around, the country hardly registered a blip in the minds of Westerners. Westerners simply saw East Asia as being inhabited by China, always an important trading partner, then Japan, who became much more familiar with its successful westernization, and… that other country in-between which didn’t matter. What’s even more grating for the Koreans is that since East Asia is rooted in the Sino-cutural-sphere, once someone sees China and Japan, when they come around to Korea, it’s basically “Been there, seen that.” This leads to an intense obsession with Korean nationalists trying to overcompensate by claiming that such and such cultural aspects are uniquely Korean and most definitely not Japanese nor Chinese, which leads to controversies like “Taekwondo is completely Korean and not at all influenced by Japanese martial arts” or “Korean language is the most elegant language system in the world.” This is also why even the name Sea of Japan makes many Koreans angry. Just like the war nerd’s comment about Persian/Arabian gulf a few podcasts ago, calling it “Sea of Japan” seems to the Koreans another point for making Japan seem more unique and deserving attention at the cost of Korea’s pride. I think with Korea’s increasing prosperity and global recognition through companies like Samsung or Hyundai, Koreans will slowly grow out of their self-esteem issues, but it’s definitely not going away any time soon.