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Reacting to 'Take Care' by Drake (Patreon)

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2022-04-01 20:41:33
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I forgot to setup my display screen to show the lyrics like I normally do. The screen capture format is how I usually have it for livestreams. Probably doesn't matter much, but that's why the video is different from the others.

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Drake - Take Care.mp4

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Jae

In case you weren't aware, Kanye doesn't write his own rhymes. I was surprised to see how invested you were in analyzing his lyrics when he isn't responsible for most of them. Cyhi Da Prince, Consequence, Rhymesfest, GLC, Kid Cudi, Pusha T, Paridson Fontaine and many more have wrote Kanye's music. Feel free to check the credits of his albums for confirmation. Here's Kanye admitting it. https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1046452160307769346

Anonymous
>>81101750

Kanye started writing less on MBDTF onwards, on his first 4 albums it's mainly him

Jae
>>81101750

He didn't write Jesus Walks, so I don't trust anything as his own on those albums. I don't trust anything Drake either after Quentin Miller, Hush, and many more.

Anonymous
>>81101750

He didn't write the second verse, but i get what you say about not trusting, Drake does write way more of his music than Ye though

Anonymous
>>81101750

Also it's not like Kanye sits there getting handed lyric sheets to rap, more like he uses friends on the payroll to generate inspiring material before tweaking/making final decisions according to his vision while doing a whole lot else

Anonymous
>>81101750

To me the process sounds similar to how writing gets done for a television show. There are a group of writers who bounce ideas off each other with Kanye. They also spend a lot of time with Kanye getting to know where his head is at. It does make it less impressive than if he wrote it all himself in an empty room, but it's also different from a pop singer being handed a script and told to perform. The vision of what gets created is ultimately his, just as a director doesn't work alone.

Jae
>>81101750

Well he's taken entire verses, melodies, hooks, beats, and concepts and made very minor adjustments. In the tweet I posted, he admits to only changing two lines in all the verses. I'm sure Puff Daddy's process is similar and he's never been heralded as some great MC. We knew Eazy E, Dr. Dre, and Puffy weren't responsible for their rhymes, so we never analyzed their rhymes or put them in any top lists. If we had found out Rakim, KRS ONE, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Chuck D, Nas, Slick Rick etc. weren't writing their own rhymes, we would have laughed them out of hiphop.

Anonymous
>>81101750

I know there are songs completely written by others. But I also don't believe that's true of every song. And I don't think the albums would be what they are without the creative force of Kanye West. He is responsible for the decisions that get made and the ultimate creative direction of it all. The inspiration for what those songs become is him. In other words, without Kanye, those songs would most likely never be written, because there was no inspiration, and they never would have become part of a cohesive, and classic body of work. To me, Kanye is like a director managing and providing inspiration for a large group of craftsmen, but who wouldn't have ever made the same work without him. I can understand the perspective, of course it would be more impressive if he did it all himself. But at the end of the day, he is the ultimate source of arguably the greatest body of work in hip hop history, and it would never exist without him. Whereas you could replace one r&b singer with another as long as they have the vocal chops, that is wholly different from replacing Kanye. You can't.

Jae
>>81101750

I have no problem with holding Kanye in high regard as an artist, but not as an MC. He is Dr. Dre, Puff Daddy status to me. I would also argue, The Chronic, is greater in quality and impact than anything Kanye has done. I have no problem with Kanye or Drake's fanbases, I just think they are both overrated as MC's when they have an entire teams behind their rhymes. I also don't think Thriller would be the same with some other singer, despite Michael Jackson not writing it.

Anonymous

You gotta listen to a Lil Wayne album. Tha Carter II and III in particular

Jazz
>>81101750

I was kinda vibing w your comment until the part about the Chronic being more impactful than any of Kanye’s music. Compared to one album of Kanye’s yes but his whole career I think he is the most influential artist for his era by far. Also Thriller is pop music and not hip hop. If you don’t write your own lyrics you better produce your own beats and be involved in the writing process. Hip hop isn’t pop music tho that line becomes more blurry as time passes.

Jazz
>>81101750

And don’t hide your ghost writers if you use them.

Anonymous

If you never left the car wash feeling like a "Knight in shining Armorall tires" , you need to change where you get you car cleaned lol. I hope you get to listen to So Far Gone and Thank Me Later on your own like you did with MOTM2 because those give a picture of Drake's story from being the guy next up to how success changed the people around him and how he adapted to it up to Take Care. Drake does have corny moments but the work he's put in definitely outshines it. IYRTITL is his best work lyrically IMO.

Jae
>>81101750

I was responding to the comment that r&b singers are interchangeable because the music is handed to them and they just sing. They obviously do more than just sing and they aren't interchangeable. And, I was saying the Chronic is greater than any single Kanye album, but not Kanye as a whole. It basically shaped the West Coast sound and had a heavy influence on all other regions, especially the south. It set a new standard for what gangsta rap could be and was still radio friendly despite not compromising it's sound at all. It introduced the world to Snoop, arguably the most famous rapper in the world. It gave Death Row records it's entrance to hiphop, and we know how much of an impact they had to this day.

maverick salinas

y’all really ruined this man’s perspective of drake before he even reacted to him☠️☠️☠️

Tyler Scott

His entire channel is going in with preconceived notions about hip hop and learning to enjoy it...so all these ppl mad that he went into Drake with that notion isn't really an excuse, he just wasnt proven wrong by the music...he doesn't have to like everything, if he doesnt vibe with Drake then he doesn't vibe with Drake...all his criticisms were valid. Everyone told him the last Outkast album was their worst and he still loved it, so i don't think he's very biased despite going in with certain thoughts.

Anonymous
>>81137910

Yes he had preconceived notions about hip hop, but the discord boys gave him gave him negatively biased notions specifically about Drake and his music.

Anonymous
>>81137910

Yeah I think there is a difference. For example he came in with negative ideas about Tupac but clearly the community would enjoy seeing those assumptions overturned. And while many don't think the first Outkast album is the best, everyone wants him to like Outkast. Whereas with Drake a lot of the audience doesn't like him so it creates this feeling of permission to not like it. I don't think Bob is the kind of person who would be into Drake anyways. But he's also not the kind of guy to be into Playboi Carti. The difference is that with Carti the audience loves it so there is a big incentive to be charitable and figure it out. Almost as if not being into it is a flaw with the listener and not the artist. Whereas with Drake it is easier to say "not for me" and move on.

Christopher Horton

What I got to do to get a reaction to Lupe Fiasco's Food & Liquor. Since you seem to be a big lyric buff and enjoy concepts, I really think you would enjoy Lupe Fiasco. Still my favorite rapper to date.

joe

He just called the bars mid. LMAOO

Anonymous

Is there a way for us normies to get in on the discord? Or maybe I just missed the invite link somewhere?

Anonymous

Hey Bob, when you do the next Drake album i'd highly recommend Nothing Was The Same over IYRTITL, since it generally has more story telling and Drake still felt like he had something to prove, IYRTITL is more so a victory lap and is mostly just a collection of (very great) "vibe" songs, less lyrical focus overall. I know most people push for IYRTITL (probably because it's highly rated by anthony fantano) so just wanted to offer a perspective. Really enjoyed your additional thoughts!

Anonymous
>>81427935

Check your email where it says "Congrats your now a patron of Bob the Poppop" There should be a "connect to discord" button when you scroll down

Anonymous

The way you reacted to Lil Wayne's verse on HYFR makes me feel like, you would enjoy his Tha Carter Series. There is a lot of witty joke lines and some really really great lyrics with, double and triple entendre's.

Anonymous

I really hope u go back to his older projects "So Far Gone" and "Thank me Later" those projects have more conscious rap and he was way more hungrier.

Luis Cee

I know I’m late to the party on this one but I really hope you do his NWTS album. It will definitely make up for this one although I feel take care is his best album but that might be cause I heard it when it first released so at the time it was something completely different than what was out at the time and I feel he delivered on this album. PS. Jay Z is featured on NWTS