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General Update (Patreon)

Published:
2018-07-14 23:08:33
Imported:
2021-06

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Where have you been?

Hey everyone. I've been completely out of pocket for the last several weeks, in a place with very low amounts of internet connectivity and virtually no capacity to use data for anything other than text-only survival-oriented communication. I'm back now.

What happened to all your posts?

My absence happened to coincide with Patreon tightening their belt. Here's what happened: Patreon's upstream payment processors told Patreon "clean up your chargeback rate." You might see a big number next to my name with the amount of support, but trust me, that's nowhere near what I receive. Porn is notorious for sky-high chargeback rates compared to any other niche. As such, the only people who can profitably process it are those payment processors who also charge very high fees (to offset the amount of tomfoolery that takes place).

Patreon is not using those payment providers. Without payment providers, Patreon doesn't work. It can't be Patreon. So the payment providers told 'em, "clean up your pipeline."

Patreon then went and mass locked the page of all NSFW artists who had any hint of public content that was NSFW. In my case, considering I had free sets available to the public, I definitely crossed this line. In order to get my page unlocked, I had to set any posts with any amount of content to Patron-only. That's why, where you might've previously seen real posts, you now see "blank" posts - I had to lock them to keep this page alive at all.

Are you going to keep using Patreon?

Incidentally, this chargeback rate is also the biggest roadblock for me setting up my own site. Even if I say no refunds or whatnot, that won't stop people filing chargebacks with their credit card company. So I figure it would be roughly equivalent user experience combined with income, but a whole lot less work, if I keep using Patreon instead of a more customized online presence.

If you have any other questions, post away!

Comments

Anonymous

My understanding is you will continue to use Patreon figuring you will still have the same issues elsewhere? That makes sense. It's a shame people would chargeback, especially since all your posts are made available for only $5. many others will only provide new content and all previous content is unavailable except at additional cost. Frustrating for you, It must be.

Anonymous

Thanks for the update, Sorry you don't see as much income as you should.

Anonymous

Good to see your back. Just a suggestion, if your going to be gone for a long time it would be a good idea to give us a heads up before you go. That way we're not wondering if your ok or if you got eaten by a snake for real.

Anonymous

I suspect at this point Pr0n is a non-trivial double-digit percentage of Patreons total platform revenue and is not something they are going to stop any time soon hence the cosmetic lock-down. Even if they decided to end it outright, the market and demand is there. Part of the compliance cost is charge-backs as the industry gets targeted by various card schemes and part of the compliance cost is legal and grounds-keeping so to speak; the idea of a p2p sales platform that produces a lot of documentation on people is still legally a new thing and everyone is trying to figure out where the law is at on it. Large businesses, especially entertainment companies, hate it. If I were in your position, the first thing I would be doing is looking at what investments you can make in faster output of artwork; you need to get religous and keep a log book of your time, and keep a list (that you add to when you get frusterated\have an idea, like a story board) of what you think you can do to improve and review those periodically. As a suggestion, you can use e-mail accounts for story-boarding, just e-mail yourself from your phone whenever a lewd idea comes to mind. If you can double or quadruple the output of art by making some minor investments, then you bank art to take time off, and you can then diversify your offerings. E.G. Offer a commissions tier, advertise more, convert patreon to a weekly "vote the storyboard and I do the comic" deal and sell sets on gumroad, et-cetera. That way you don't have to worry about one platform going kaput. And if the entire industry goes kaput, you have a useful skill you had a business going on. If you wanted to ask someone about their platform, talk to Perilcomics.com.

simplegreenbag
>>13864320

if money was my goal, i wouldnt do this. i actually lose money doing this because of opportunity cost of other skills i have. but this pays for itself and its fun so all good

simplegreenbag
>>13856904

100% agree. In this case I had an announcement written, but then my page was unexpectedly locked. Once I adhered I had to wait for them to unlock, but by that time I was gone. Next time I'll see if I can blast direct messages or some other way