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Talking Simpsons - Homer The Moe With Stuart Wellington (Patreon)

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2022-04-06 04:00:00
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2023-01

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Just in time for an episode about running a bar, we welcome on the cohost of The Flop House Podcast/bartender, the awesome Stuart Wellington! He gives us the scoop on this spirited Moe episode, as Homer takes over the bar ahead of it being rebuilt, as well as perhaps the show's darkest joke that's followed by some stuff that hasn't aged well and a random REM appearance. Listen now to learn how to make a cosmo on this week's podcast!

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somefeatures

This one always struck me as the peak of Scully insanity before the relatively sleepier Jean era. I can’t tell if it’s secretly good or mesmerizingly bad. I love it for what it is and think about it constantly, but it’s only so memorable to me in the same way that seeing a car crash is memorable. As a trans woman the Russia joke never bothered me *as* much as some others from this period. The other one has just always baffled me. I literally don’t understand why it happens. It’s not just a hateful joke, it’s a hateful joke so halfassed that you wonder “is this referencing a scene that was cut or something??” Also, those dancing animations in the first R.E.M. scene are so fluid yet weirdly stiff it’s approaching uncanny valley. I get the sense they wanted that shot to be milked for promos.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

I had pretty much entirely forgotten that this episode existed until I was watching it again for this podcast. While the episode IS very different than these (to the credit of the staff at this point), I think part of me not remembering it is due to some similar bar plotlines from past episodes like Flaming Moe's, Fear of Flying, and Bart Sells His Soul, where Moe's Tavern undergoes a renovation and/or Homer is kicked out and has to find another watering hole. Despite my forgetfulness, I actually enjoyed this episode a fair bit, even if it doesn't have the most memorable bits for Moe or his bar - which is, if you'll forgive the pun, admittedly a high bar to reach.

Shane H

Now for the scoop on some ancient Bob Mackey lore! I was a listener of retronauts before I started going through the back catalog for the flop house. I got weirdly excited when I found an episode in the early hundreds or so and heard Elliot read a letter from Bob! So if anybody is looking for one of the worst reasons to start listening to a podcast, you could have a very long scavenger hunt! Bob, do you ever think about this now that you have your own successful podcast?

Anonymous

Nina, what's the Japanese name of this episode? I feel like the name Homer the Moe would imply a very different episode to a Japanese audience :P

nina matsumoto
>>81393786

Moe's Bartending Escape Plan NOTE: The JP title says "Datsu Bartending." "Datsu" literally means "escape" but in the alcohol industry, "datsu alcohol" means "non-alcoholic." So there's a bit of a pun here that is tough to translate to English

SilkiePJ

I was super delighted to hear the great Stuart Wellington on this bartending based episode bringing his debonair charm as always. Though I want to comment on two different things said in the episode. 1. Soy sauce can be a flavor in beer, but it is often an off-flavor contributed due to Autolysis. Autolysis is the process of a beer is exposed to dead yeast in the fermenter for too long where the membranes of the yeast cells in the beer disintegrate and release a compound that in dark beer tends to taste like soy sauce. Some beers can also have intentional soy sauce flavors from using intensely roasted malts, kinako powder (toasted soybean powder), and even beers that are brewed using meat. I have sampled Wynkoop Brewing's infamous Rocky Mountain Oyster Stout which tasted strongly of soy sauce. 2. While Stuart was mentioning that almost all bartending stories tend to be sad, there is one exception and it's one of my favorite anime ever. The 2006 Anime Bartender is an anthology series about people who have personal issues who see a bartender who gives them the perfect cocktail. The animation is not great and the dialogue is very flowery, but if you are at all curious about the history of alcohol or how it is made, it is a lovely, unique series. You can't find it on any streaming service but you can find all the episodes on Youtube subtitled in English.

Anonymous

Hi guys, I’m a food scientist and the part about the beer made out of soy sauce always stuck out to me in this episode (well actually I’m a flavor chemist, someone who designs flavors for food products, and no, 2,4-desoxypropanyramine does NOT cause monsterism). Alcoholic fermentation is the process of converting sugars to alcohol, and this is done by microorganisms. Essentially anything that contains carbohydrates (like rice, barley, or even soy beans) could be fermented to create alcohol, so beer brewed from soy wouldn’t be that far-fetched (though it would probably taste pretty gnarly, or at the very least, just taste like soy sauce). However the super high level of salt in soy sauce would destroy the microorganisms that perform the fermentation process (which is why soy sauce is shelf stable for 1000 years), and so alcohol could not be further generated from it. I get that Moe is probably suggesting that soy sauce is used as a flavoring in the recipe for an otherwise typical lager, but felt like some needless pedantry was in order. Just some fun thought for food for thought!

Anonymous
>>81404624

Point 1 here is a good point. The alcohol produced by fermentation that makes us feel fun feelings is ethanol, 2 carbons. However other small alcohols can also be formed (which do also still get you buzzed) e.g. propanol (3 carbons), butanol and isobutanol (four carbons), and amyl and isoamyl alcohols (5 carbons). Isoamyl in particular is one of the greatest contributors to the flavor of dark spirits like whiskey. Propanol (the closest relative to ethanol) has a distinctly soy-like or miso-like taste. This coupled with the roasted notes of a dark malt (such as those used in stouts and porters) will combine to give a distinctly soy-sauce feel (`:

Frank Grimes

As far as I can recall there has not been a bar rescue type episode for moe.

DrKarate

A buddy of mine would make a drink he found online called a "Manchurian candidate" which is literally just vodka and soy sauce. I think he did it to be weird rather than actually like it, but needless to say it was a weird cocktail I was aware of in my 20s

Dvdmike

The Shemale and Penis jokes really did fall flat, I'm glad things age and get better but a lot ages and gets worse and worse

Bradford A Barker

Personally, this was my most-hated episode, watching as it first aired. Nothing landed for me, and it marked for me when The Simpsons went from not-as-good-as-it-had-been to simply bad TV. Season 11 had been rough, but 12 had enough going for it that I had hope for a floor of clever jokes that could go with the best from the Golden Age, at least now and then. The whizzing contest and the professor walking into the lake slammed the door shut and then locked the key, for me. All that said, it's genuinely interesting to learn the circumstances behind all this that I had no idea about as a high school kid, from the end of the Mike Scully era to new writer Dana Gould trying maybe a bit too hard to ape Schwarzwelder. I had loved Gex, a few years previous. Of course, the positive tone and meticulous research of Bob and Hen(e)r(e)y is much appreciated.

Anonymous

I like flop house but Stuart wasn’t a very good guest on talking Simpsons

Kat Heagberg

As I was listening to this episode last week, my hr person and boss texted to let me know I was being laid off (hooray for corporate acquisitions of media companies!) Then 10 minutes later my husband was also was fired in a similar manner. That’s when I turned off the podcast so as not to taint it with that memory and to rage about capitalism while I logged into LinkedIn instead. Then I finally listened to the rest later that night, and it actually made the second worst day of my life a little better. So thank you for “being there” for this unemployedarino.