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Talking Simpsons - Brush With Greatness With Alex Navarro (Patreon)

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2021-12-08 04:59:59
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2023-01

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Once more we've got Alex Navarro from Nextlander returning, and he's here to give us insight as a person who plays drums AND worked on The Beatles: Rock Band! As Marge rediscovers her artistic talent, Homer wants to lose weight, and somehow Ringo Starr solves all of their problems. So join us for discussions on water parks, weight loss, artistic talents, drumming ability, the word "genitalia" and so much more!

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Anonymous

Yay, my alma mater, UCSB, and its shitshow dorm got mentioned. Fun fact, I took classes with Charlie Munger's grandson when we both went there.

Kat Heagberg

When I was a kid, my dad lost his wedding ring on a water slide at Cedar Point — and someone actually found it in the vast swampy grossness. Somehow my child brain swapped this with this episode — I misremembered that Homer lost then found his wedding ring and my DAD got stuck on a tube slide. I remember being like “Dad! Remember when you got stuck on that slide at Cedar Point?!” And my dad was very confused. The next time I saw this episode in syndication I realized my error. Also, a couple of years ago my husband convinced me to go on some water slides at Dorney Park in Pennsylvania, and it was honestly really fun. Water slide technology has definitely increased since the ‘90s—like, they literally shoot you down a giant tube Futurama-style and it’s a blast. I wouldn’t go out of my way to go to a water park, but I also wouldn’t turn a good tube-shoot down.

Alex Forsyth

The blood bank line is from Hard to Kill. My mom's second husband loved the early Segal films and they played non stop in our house. My brother used to hide and startle people by yelling "how does it feel to know you're about to die?". A 5 year old probably shouldn't have been watching those movies but hey.

Joe Hodgson

I grew up in New Hampshire where for some reason there was an abundance of water parks, even though their season is quite short. The biggest one was Water Country (which I think is different from Water Country USA that Alex referenced) and if you mention it to anyone who grew up in the area they will most likely immediately recite the commercial jingle. I only went a couple of times though because one of the only traumatic experiences of my youth occurred at Water Country when I got separated from my group and a brutal thunderstorm descended upon us rapidly. Everybody had to shelter in place and I wound up in the lost kids section, a truly miserable place. And to top it all off, I lost my very 90s Bugs Bunny and Taz t-shirt featuring them in "urban" stylings that day. I'm still in mourning.

burro

The editing on Marge's "I think it's a very nice idea" always stuck out to me. It comes so quickly after Lisa's suggestion and the way she phrases it, it almost feels like another line between them was cut out.

burro
>>73462463

Marge starts responding before Lisa even finishes the word "college." Let Lisa finish her sentence Marge!

Anonymous

Great ep as always and congrats to Henry on the continued success with his body goals. Speaking as someone whose weight has probably varied between Bob's and Hank's in his adult life, the one thing nobody tells you is that the "maintenance phase" of a diet is a myth. Pretty much whatever you do to reach a certain weight, your body will expect you to do in perpetuity to continue it, and much the same as if you stop lifting or running, you'll decline from whatever peak you reached. What prompted me to reply, however, was Bob's comments about "My 600lbs Life". I really don't love shows like (or Biggest Loser) as they're often quite exploitative and usually do more harm than good for their subjects. In particular he mentioned people that size struggling to adhere to 1200 per day calorie diets because they didn't know how to cook or season low-cal food to be enjoyable. I don't think that comment came from a bad place, but it really does reinforce the stereotype that fat people have the bodies they do because they are either stupid or lazy. To put it in perspective (and because Bob and I are the same height, I know the rough recommended calorie range we'd be in), a person whose 600lbs or more is probably eating something in the realm of 5000 to 9000 calories a day, depending on their height (and too many numerous other factors to name). That kind of calorie reduction might make sense if they're 20, 30, maybe even 50lbs overweight, but at that size, it's like asking Bob to live on 300 to 400 calories a day. Sure, he could do it for a while, but no matter how well he seasoned that tilapia, he wouldn't be able to continue on like that for very long. People's bodies and metabolisms adapt with their size (you see this near the end of Super Size Me) and simply put, that's a starvation diet for a person that large. What is perhaps most cruel about doctors recommending those kinds of extreme measures for people of that size is that it completely destroys one's metabolism and many of the other regulatory systems in the body. Women in that situation often stop having their period, for instance. And even if they do successfully achieve their target weight, not only will they likely gain much, if not all, of it back, but all the stress they put on their system will make future weight loss even harder. The best intervention for people in that situation is gastric bypass/bariatric surgery, but unfortunately it's care our lovely medical insurance system isn't keen on delivering (and in the case of My 600lbs Life, doesn't make for nearly as good TV). I don't say all of this to admonish Bob or Alex. If you've never lost or gained a lot of weight you've probably never thought too hard about these issues and I know you're just reacting to the jokes in the show. That said, body size and health is much more complex than the "fat unhealthy, thin healthy" narrative that's pervasive in not only our culture, but pretty much the whole world's. I also want to say, because nobody ever tells you this while you're losing weight, it's fine if you wind up fat, Henry, whether that's by your definition or a societal one. The important thing is to wind up healthy. And for anyone who is interested in delving more deeply into these issues, I'd recommend the podcast Maintenance Phase, which examines not only the weight loss industry, but other health and wellness myths.

To Boldy Joe... Moore

Every time I hear Ringo's voice, I get flashbacks to Thomas the Tank Engine (he was the original voice narrator in the UK version). ^_^ Thanks for the podcast. :)

Bob Mackey
>>73473070

Thanks for the comment! One thing I have noticed about the subjects on My 600 lb Life is that most of them are extremely low-income. Speaking from experience, when you're poor you don't have time to cook, and you need as many calories as you can get as cheaply as you can get. And cooking in general takes a lot of time and physical effort, the latter of which can be difficult to do if you're of a certain size. So I wasn't trying to imply that people who can't cook are stupid or lazy.

Anonymous
>>73473070

I appreciate you taking the time to reply and I get where you're coming from. Poverty and lack of access to quality food is a huge contributor to dietary health issues and absolutely bears calling out. And I'm sure I'm being a little over sensitive and/or projecting some of my own stuff. I've dealt with body issues and periods of disordered eating so there are certain things that are just red flags for me, I guess. Even things that Henry has said about his own process have given me cause for concern. Obviously I don't want to try air our to diagnose anything in Patreon comments. I just want to make sure that one half of my favorite podcasting duo is taking good care of himself. Both of you really. Thanks.

nina matsumoto
>>73473070

I've been guiding Henry through his new life habits -- and he gave me permission to talk about this here -- his goal has never been to get skinny, nor have I pushed him to get skinny (and he's not interested in it either because he likes being a bear). Around 2 years ago he never walked, never exercised, and never ate a single vegetable (not even a lettuce in a burger). He's had medical conditions directly related to poor nutrition. Now he DOES eat his danged vegetables, walks everywhere, enjoys RingFit, and has kept the conditions away. For privacy reasons I don't want to get into any more detail than this, but trust me when I say he's not losing weight through any sort of deprivation or over-exercise. He still treats himself and his activity levels have gone from zero to average. (I myself am a formerly-unhealthy now-fit person who still consumes a lot of pizza, chocolate, and beer, and I never advocate an unsustainable lifestyle of over-restriction.) I'm happy if he stays at his current weight, as long as he keeps eating balanced meals and keeps up with daily activities! It's given him WAY more energy and improved his mental health.

talkingsimpsons
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I appreciate all the concerns and advice, yeah. For me I like being thinner for comfort levels too, and just feeling like I have more energy in the morning. Until I changed my diet and started being active in the morning, I didn’t realize how tired or uncomfortable I felt a lot of the time. Or it just felt normal. My body mass is the easier thing for me to visually focus on, but I do also like just feeling more energized and in a better place mentally day to day. I do still have a lot of progress I want to make but I try not to beat myself up about weight as much as long as I’m sticking to my diet. And also I find most rewarding now when I reach a new workout goal, like more miles per day or reaching the highest difficulty in Ring Fit. - Henry

bakarina

https://youtu.be/qV165QV4b_w A compilation of homer's BOOAAHHH OHHH noise

Anonymous

I was a big Beatles fan as a kid (and remain one), and one year thought it would be fun to play “Birthday” on a loop at my birthday party. I think it ran three or four times and then everyone agreed the gag had run its course and then some.

Anonymous

I think I rode the exact flume ride that Henry mentioned when we took a vacation to California when I was 10 - it’s one of the few amusement park rides I’ve ever been on because I have pretty bad motion sickness and don’t do well with most coasters or anything else. In classic fashion, when the ride reached the bottom I slid forward and smacked my face into the pad at the front, breaking my glasses. The next year I went on the Tilt-a-Whirl at a friend’s birthday and it didn’t end well. And that was the end of my amusement park career!