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***FULL REACTION*** THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS (EXTENDED EDITION) (Patreon)

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2022-12-09 02:03:10
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Movie Run Time: 3:55:20

You will need your own copy of the show to watch along! 😁

I don't know what I was more excited about. The return of Gandalf or the dragon!

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Jeremy Vickers

Yessssssssss! Preciousssssssss!

Catherine LW

I think the “dragon” is called a fell beast.

Lee Pitman

I haven’t watched the reaction yet, just the intro. I will try and answer your questions. More about Gollum will be revealed in the movies. Saruman resides in the tower of Orthanc in Isengard. The eye of Sauron is at Barad-dûr, also known as the Dark Tower in Mordor much further to the East. Every time Sauron was defeated and lost his form, it took him longer to regain power. After the Fall of Numenor (which is not covered in the movies), he regained his physical form fairly quickly. But after the War of the Last Alliance (shown at the beginning of the first film), he was further weakened and it took fully 1000 years to regain his corporeal form. After losing the One Ring, Sauron's physical body was destroyed as his power stemmed from the ring. He was thought to have vanished from Middle-earth, but his essence still existed. During the Third Age, when Sauron had regained some strength he returned as a giant flaming eye that sat on top of Barad-dûr, Mordor's stronghold. He was in this form before Frodo was given the Ring but after torturing Gollum and learning that a Baggins in the Shire had the Ring his existence was fully revealed as he sent the Black Riders to retrieve it. Sauron never found the ring when Gollum and later Bilbo possessed it because Sauron and his servants had to know the Ring was being worn and they had to be relatively close to the Ring to even sense it. Once they knew of Baggins and the Shire the Black Riders travelled there and become close enough to start sensing its presence. Gollum and Bilbo always kept the Ring close to them but only wore it for short periods of time. When Frodo put on the Ring at the Prancing Pony in Bree the Black Riders instantly knew of his general location and headed straight for Bree. Frodo removed it before they had time to zero in on his exact position. The Orcs under Saruman’s command begin ripping down trees to fuel the fires of the forges used to make the weapons and armour the army would need. The first Orcs were created in a time known as the Days before Days. They were Elves enslaved, tortured, and bred by Morgoth (see my comment in Rings of Power episode 1 reaction) using dark sorcery. After their initial creation, they bred and multiplied like Elves and Men for many thousands of years. Those that are dug up out of the ground in the movie are Uruk-hai. The Uruk-hai first appeared out of Mordor in the Third Age after having been created by Sauron. The Wizard Saruman later replicated Sauron’s method and created Uruks in the pits of Isengard. Uruks were created to have all of the strengths of Orcs but none of their weakness, such as hatred of sunlight. Saruman's Uruk-hai are shown as being released from a kind of membrane in the mud deep under Isengard (special commentary on DVD explained that they were trying to base the scene on an early description of Tolkien's that Orcs "worm their way out of the ground like maggots").

la chaise
>>97226651

Nice answer sir ^^ In the books, Uruk-hai were half-orc and half-man so they could move in the sunlight. I don't know why Jackson decided for orc/goblin in his script

Lee Pitman

Brilliant reaction, I really loved it. I love seeing your expression when the tree came to life and Gandalf returned). Grima Wormtongue (the Gollum-looking man) was played by Brad Dourif. Brad played the role of Billy Bibbit (who committed suicide) in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. During the scene when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are standing next to the pile of burnt Orc bodies, Aragorn (played by Viggo Mortensen) kicks a helmet and lets out an anguished cry. That is a real cry of pain as Viggo broke his toe on the helmet. The Dead Marshes that Gollum led the Hobbits through were part of the battleground where Isildur cut the ring from Sauron’s hand. Many of the fallen were laid to rest there. Over time, the marshes swallowed up the dead, though their bodies could still be seen floating in the water. The passage through the marshes was marked by lights that danced about and candles which Gollum called "candles of corpses"; it is likely that those who became entranced by the lights and attempted to touch the bodies drowned in the water and went down to join the dead. I hate being the bearer of bad news but at this time in Middle-Earth dragons are extinct. The creature is a fellbeast. The fellbeasts were described as large, winged creatures without feathers, and whose bodies gave off a stench. It is possible that fellbeasts came from "an older world". The dark lord Sauron bred these fellbeasts and gave them to the Nine as mounts. The large elephants are Oliphaunts, often used in battle by the Haradrim (men from Harad, in the region of Middle-earth directly south of Gondor). Oliphaunt was the name given to them by Hobbits. Aragorn is one of the Dúnedain, those who survived the sinking of their island kingdom and came to Middle-earth. They had qualities like those of the Elves, with keen senses and the ability to understand the language of birds and beasts. They are blessed with long life. Their average lifespan is 150 – 170 years. The result of a union between a Human and an Elf is a Half-Elf. Half-Elves must choose whether to live the immortal life of an Elf or the mortal life of a Human. Elrond of Rivendell is a Half-Elf who chose immortality. Elves are immortal in the sense they do not naturally die but can die a violent death. The Wolves of Isengard are also called Wargs. They were used as mounts by the Orcs of Isengard and Mordor. Wargs are described as giant, intelligent, and malevolent wolves. The first time I saw them I also thought they looked a bit like hyenas.

DawnMarieAnderson
>>97226651

I had a feeling I would find out about Gollum in the next movie. I think he’s so flippin cute 😂 Ah! So the big flaming eye is Sauron?? I didn’t realise 🙈 Thanks so much for that! Explains a lot! I’m trying to take everything in but there’s just so much 😂 your explanations help so much though!

DawnMarieAnderson
>>97240115

Oh Jesus I’m sure someone actually told me this (possibly you 😂) and I didn’t even realise! I had to Google his face to double check and yeah I can see it now. Ah the battleground from the beginning! Makes sense now that you’ve said but again I didn’t pick up on that. The ‘fellbeast’ doesn’t have a normal dragon face so I did wonder if it was something else 😂 Thanks again for your comment Lee 😁 lots to remember! I’m going to thoroughly enjoy watching these again.

MertzRocks
>>97218712

Right. The Fell Beasts were bred or created in Mordor. Dragons were created by the first Dark Lord Morgoth in the First Age of the Sun. Not all Dragons breathe fire but they grow to be more than TWENTY times the size of those Fell Beasts! MINIMUM!

MertzRocks
>>97226651

One thing, Lee... Sauron must have given Saruman the knowledge to create Uruk-Hai of his own. Sauron tells Saruman, "Build me an army worthy of Mordor," in the script but there must have been much more to that conversaton and many others... Also la chaise has a point. In the book, some Uruk-Hai could pass as men. This didn't come up in the movies mainly because they didn't include "The Scouring of The Shire".

MertzRocks
>>97240115

Well Dawn, I see I'm a week late and gold piece short. lol Oliphaunts are called Mumak, plural Mumakil by the Haradrim and hence also by men of Gondor. There is a ^ over the u. Tolkien did that a lot... More on the half-elven. Elrond's brother Elros chose mortality and was the first King of Numenor. He lived 500 years. After Numenor was destroyed and the survivors came back to Middle Earth, their lines mixed with "lesser" men and so their lifespan shortened but was still lomg like Lee says. I mentioned in a Fellowship comment that Aragorn lived 210 years. In fact, Aragorn is very VERY distantly related to Elrond (and therefore Arwen). From Elrond's brother came the Kings of Numenor, then the Kings of Gondor and Arnor (Arnor contains the Shire, btw), and finally the Cheftains of the Dunedain, commonly known as the Rangers of the North.

Lee Pitman
>>97226651

I clearly said Saruman replicated Sauron's method so obviously, he got the method from Sauron.

Chris

Dawn marie what did you think of faramir kidnaping frodo and Sam