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***FULL REACTION*** THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING (EXTENDED EDITION) (Patreon)

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2022-12-01 21:28:01
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2023-11-10 14:12:55
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Bartleby

Excellent call going with the Extended Editions. The filmmakers and actors from the films have come out and said they consider the extended editions to be the definitive versions of the films. If you’re going to venture into this epic journey for the first time, the extended editions with the more vast scope of story is the way to go!!

Darrell Palmer

I just upgraded my membership level for this! Let's go. 🥳

TheGuy

I wish creators would stick with theatrical versions. I am not buying/renting a different version to watch a reaction.

Lee Pitman

I wish people would stop criticizing creators. They face criticism no matter what they do. They can please some of the people all of the time, they can please all of the people some of the time, but they can't please all of the people all of the time. Respect other people's choices and learn to deal with disappointment.

Eric Bonham

You did pretty good with the names. I'm sure other people will correct you, so I won't bother here. Did you know you watched Bilbo Baggins recently when he was a crazy robot trying to murder Sigourney Weaver?

Darrell Palmer

Tolkien the author created all the languages (other than english) that you hear in the film. That includes the alphabets for those languages. He was a linguist and fan of history and mythology. He hated that England had no mythology the way that Iceland (for example) had the Icelandic sagas and wanted to give England a mythology of its own. The references to the incident with the dragon and the story that Bilbo tells the kids at the party are part of that mythology that he created and presented in "The Hobbit" which came out long before he created the Lord of the Rings story. By watching this film you are opening yourself to a whole new world.

TheGuy
>>96744353

I don't agree that consumers should have to simply deal with disappointment. Part of the relationship between consumers and the producers of any product has always included criticism. It is the only way the producer can gauge consumers feelings about their product, or it was anyway. I suppose then the only acceptable way to provide feedback today is to cancel. Thanks for helping me think that through.

Lee Pitman

Great reaction. Thanks for that. The information I left in the comment section of episode 1 of The Rings of Power (mostly about Elves) also applies to the movies. Sorry to have to tell you but Gimli the Dwarf is played by John Rhys-Davies who is Welsh, not Scottish. Billy Boyd who plays the Hobbit Peregrin Took (Pippin) is Scottish (Glaswegian). He appeared in Still Game episode “Faimly” (Season 1 Episode 2) as Bearded Man. He sat on the bench in the train station next to Jack and Victor. I know you are a Still Game fan, as am I. Bilbo was played by Ian Holm from Time Bandits and Alien. The White Wizard Saruman (Head of the Wizards Order) is played by Sir Christopher Lee who played Count Dooku in Star Wars episodes II and III. Saruman resides in the tower of Orthanc in Isengard. The eye of Sauron is at Barad-dûr, also known as the Dark Tower in Mordor much further to the East. Hobbits (often called Halflings) are between two and four feet (0.6–1.2 m) tall and have an average life expectancy of 100 years. Bilbo and Frodo share the same birthday. The party is a joint birthday party marking Bilbo’s 111th year and Frodo’s 33rd (coming of age). Frodo is 33 when Gandalf gives him the ring. Gandalf then leaves and travels Middle-Earth for many years seeking information about the ring. When Gandalf returns to Frodo, Frodo is 50 years old. Samwise Gamgee is 38, Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry) is 36 and Peregrin Took (Pippin) is the youngest at 28. Boromir comes from the Kingdom of Gondor (one of several human kingdoms) and is 40 years old. He carries the Horn of Gondor and blew it to summon the others for help. Dwarves are between four and five feet tall (1.2–1.5 m) tall and have an average lifespan of 250 years. In the Fellowship, Gimli is 139. Orcs live mostly in mountain caves and dislike sunlight. Many of them lived in the Misty Mountains while others resided in Mordor. They are also known as goblins though sometimes in “The Hobbit” the term is exclusively used for the smaller sub-races of Orcs. Sauron and Saruman the wizard breed an unusually large and powerful type of orc, the Uruk-hai. Although most orcs did not like the sun and could not bear to be in it, the Uruk-hai could stand daylight. Deformed half-orcs also exist, crossbred from Men and Orcs. The movies were indeed filmed in Scotland (also known as New Zealand 😂). The two massive statues are called The Argonath. You said they looked familiar and asked if they shot lasers from their eyes. I believe that is a scene from The NeverEnding Story (1984) https://youtu.be/I_vzG5nYk1I I absolutely loved your reaction Dawn (as always). I can't wait for the next one. By the way, how is your sanity holding up so far? 😁

Bartleby
>>96744353

I think valid criticisms are always fair, especially if there is a charge involved. That being said, I don’t believe complaining that a reactor is opting for the extended editions over the the theatrical cuts of Lord of the Rings is a valid criticism as there are so many paying patrons and YouTube subscribers who are asking for the extended edition reaction. Their voices and dollars count too. And it’s especially not a valid criticism as the extended editions have been around forever and the preferred versions of the movie for nearly 20 years now. Most fans have embraced the extended editions decades before any YouTuber ever reacted to any movie. If you don’t have the extended editions, then you’re probably just a casual fan. The passionate fans are the ones you want to make happy.

DawnMarieAnderson
>>96782118

Oh I’ll have to go back and read that! I’ve been taking lots of notes and have many questions about these movies 😂 I knew you’d be answering them for me. Oh! He’s welsh? He does a very good Scottish accent then. I wouldn’t have known. Also I’ve been calling him Gimble 😂 Wait so Gandalf is gone for 17 years? Was that obvious in the movie cause I did not pick up on that 🙈 New Zealand? How dare they have such beautiful lands 😂 Yes! You’re right it’s The Neverending Story I’ve seen similar to the huge statues. Thank you for asking, so far so good! Fortunately I enjoy the filming and editing 😁 thank you again so much for watching and your comment ❤️

Bartleby
>>96782118

The ages of hobbits and Gandalf being gone for many years are from the books. Things are compressed for a movie adaptation for a flowing movie narrative. There’s certain stats and figures you don’t need to get mired in. Everything you need to know to enjoy the movies is within the movies.

Lee Pitman

The passage of time is not clear in the movies but based on the books Gandalf was away for 17 years. Gandalf began to suspect the Ring was more than it seemed only on the night of Bilbo's party. Bilbo's behaviour that night concerned him. Over the next 17 years, Gandalf travels extensively, searching for answers on the ring. He finds some answers in Isildur's scroll, in the archives of Minas Tirith. He also wants to question Gollum, who had borne the ring for many years. Gandalf searches long and hard for Gollum, often assisted by Aragorn. There is an excellent 40-minute fan film called The Hunt for Gollum about this on YouTube. THE HUNT FOR GOLLUM https://youtu.be/uZWuxEwqYzM Frodo’s departure from Bag End fell on September 23 of TA 3018 (TA is short for Third Age), just one day after he celebrated his 50th birthday. Within a few days, he and his party — which at this point consisted of Sam, Merry, and Pippin — were headed out of the Shire and into the wide world. It takes the group around a month to reach Rivendell, where they meet up with Gandalf and participate in the Council of Elrond’s discussion of the ring. They remain in Rivendell for several months — between late October and late December — before departing as the Fellowship of the Ring. The Fellowship passes through the Mines of Moria a month later, in mid-January, and reached the Elven city of Lothlórien by mid-February. Frodo and Sam officially part ways with the Fellowship ten days later, as February comes to a close, and start their solo journey.

Chris Illsley
>>96782118

They definitely don’t portray it as 17 years in the Movie, I love the book The Fellowship of the Ring a lot but certainly out of the 3 books it is no doubt the hardest to adapt to film, it really eases you into the story haha you spend a lot of time in the shire before the journey even starts proper, and even so they Skipped an incredible chunk of the book just to get to Rivendell. So this had to be incredibly sped up, to work at all as a film. For many many years the books were considered unadaptable for movies, but Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens were somehow able to succeed at making a coherent and wonderful screenplay that can be consumed by the general public but were also able to still make the movies feel like the books and took great care to get across the Themes of the story and kept as much dialogue from the books as possible for those big fans of Tolkien’s work.

MertzRocks
>>96865865

In the Fellowship *movie*, Gandalf is NOT gone for 17 years, nor likely even 17 months. This is one of the many liberties that writers Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens and Drector Peter Jackson took with the source material and I agree with--or at least accept--every liberty they took with this story (unlike those they took with 'The Hobbit', unfortunately...) EDIT~ I see some others mentioned compressing that 17 year gap as well. Good on y'all. And good comments, Lee. In regards to what I said last, IF there is ONE bit of artistic liberty they took that I truly disagree with, it's showing the Dark Tower as having the giant flaming eye upon it. I always thought that was stupid, even though I'm sure one reason for it is so you don't confuse it with Orthanc after Saruman's orcs start destroying the rest of Isengard to do all the dirty work they do.

MertzRocks
>>96744353

Well said, Sam. And if TheGuy decides/decided to cancel... His loss not ours.

MertzRocks
>>96746195

Ash: "I can't lie to you about your chances... But you have my sympathy." Hmmm... Sympathy from an emotionless robot. lol

MertzRocks
>>96754056

Most people doing that kind of thing only create names and maybe several words of vocabulary and a verb or two or three... Professor Tolkien did SO much more as a philologist (a linguist who studies the history and development of languages and their relationships to other languages... *whew!*). He created TWO entire languages for the Elves with extensive vocabulary, plus rules for HOW to speak them; One (or both? not sure...) was based loosely on Finnish. Also he made up at least the bare bones for THREE languages for men, plus Dwarvish, Orcish (Black Speech) and some old words that only Hobbits used. Add to that all the cultural and story elements that he created, the production team had their work cut out for them to bring it all to life on the big screen. Wow, I hope that isn't too much to take in, lol... Love your reactions, Dawn! <3

MertzRocks

The movie (Saruman) isn't really clear about the origin of orcs: The Lord of the Rings (and The Hobbit ~ no spoilers, I promise!) takes place at the end of the Third Age of Middle Earth. In Tolkien's fantasy world, it has been approximately 7,000 years since the first rising of the Sun and Moon. In Middle Earth before that there were only the Stars. During the Age of Stars, the FIRST Dark Lord (Morgoth) and his servants (Balrogs like the one Gandalf fought in Moria, plus others including his Lieutenant Sauron) waylaid many of the newly awakened Elves and took them to his stronghold where he tortured them and twisted their fair forms into hideous things and then bred them into a new and evil race of being to spread and wreak havoc in the darkness. This is the reason most orcs cannot stand sunlight--they actually have trouble functioning at all. The first Uruk-Hai were created much later in the Third Age by Sauron, who then gave the knowledge to Saruman and Saruman took it a step further by breeding them with men. Some could actually pass as men but the movie doesn't touch on that. What they show in the movie about the creation of Uruk-Hai wasn't elves being buried and brough back out as monsters, though not a bad guess, Dawn. And in fact I'm not sure WHAT the film producers say it really WAS! They might not know themselves, lol. I welcome any corrections or critcisms the other fans may have of my comment.

MertzRocks

Some notes on relations/relationships between characters... Now since I write this AFTER your posting of The Return of the King I can't spoil anything here (yay!): 1- The hobbits, Frodo, Merry and Pippin are all younger cousins of Bilbo and Sam is Bilbo's gardener and then Frodo's. Sam and Rosie end up having THIRTEEN kids! (and Bilbo thought that the Bracegirdles had "been productive"! lol) Their family becomes the keeper of the Red Book (Bilbo's/Frodo's book) from then on. 2- Aragorn II (King Elessar Telcontar, which translates to Elfstone Strider) is FORTY generations after Elendil (39 after Isildur who cut the Ring from Sauron's hand). His son seen in Arwen's vision is named Eldaron ("Scion of the Eldar" ; Eldar=Elves). Supposedly they have two daughters as well. Aragorn dies at the age of 210 after 122 years as King. Arwen passes one year after Aragorn does, at the age of 2,901. 3- The Three Elven Rings are revealed in the movies thus: Galadriel shows Frodo her ring, Nenya-the (white) Ring of Adamant after dramatically declining his offer to her of the One Ring. At the Grey Havens, the very end of TRotK, We see Elrond wearing the blue ring Vilya and Gandalf wears the red ring Narya. 4- Galadriel is not an "Elf Witch" (that's a cookie-or biscuit-made by Keebler lol). Who she is, is the oldest remaining Elf in Middle Earth. She is a High Elf, not a Wood Elf (Legolas' people), a common mistake. She was born in the Undying Lands in the light of the Two Trees. The Years of the Trees happened during the Ages of Stars in Middle Earth and they had to be different in length to the later Years of the Sun and very likely MUCH LONGER (I know! Confusing!) She lived 133 "years" in the light of the Trees before Morgoth and Ungoliant (a spider spirit and possibly mother of Shelob in the LotR.). Under the Sun, Galadriel was in Middle Earth for about 7,050 years. Her husband Celeborn was of similar (but a bit younger) age, Elrond was born under the Sun and was about 6,500 years old when he took ship. Sorry for the length of that one, but wait! There's MORE: 5- Galadriel is Arwen's Grandmother! Her daughter Celebrian wed Elrond and they had two sons, Elladan and Elrohir, and their daughter Arwen, called Undomiel (Evenstar). The sons of Elrond are not seen or mentioned in the movies. 6- The Wizards Saruman and Gandalf (and Radagast who you will meet in The Hobbit when you get to it (and that's really not a spoiler)) are the same TYPE of being as Sauron and the Balrog (back in the First Age there were LOTS of Balrogs). In effect, if not actuality, they are demigods with great powers but the Wizards took a man-like form and so had needs like eating and sleeping and they had the frailty of flesh. They also weren't "allowed" to use their full powers against Sauron. They were meant to inspire goodness and courage and so on in the men, elves, dwarves and hobbits (and even ents) they interacted with. At first, Saruman was a good guy like this but two things probably changed him. Long before Gandalf revealed to him the One Ring's location, he had been searching the Great River for it and became obsessed with finding it. This only grew worse when he learned that Sauron had resurfaced and later when he used the Palantir (the crystal ball) in his tower and was caught by Sauron who had another Palantir. There once were seven seeing-stones, but three were lost and one only looks west to the Undying Lands -- Denethor used the one in Minas Tirith, and was tricked by Sauron to believe that any resistance was futile; but that isn't seen in the movie. Let me know if you read this please, Dawn. Anyone else, correct me or criticize me at leisure...

Lee Pitman
>>96782118

Dawn says “he shouldn’t be left with the ring, he’s too young” which is why I mentioned his age and how old he is in relation to the others. I’m only posting information she may be interested in.

Lee Pitman
>>96782118

During the reaction when Gandalf leaves the shire to search for answers Dawn clearly says “I don’t understand what’s happening”. I just supplied some information from the book that would help. I clearly said, “based on the book”. Obviously, time passes differently in the movies, Dawn is aware of that. I never once said he is away for 17 years in the film.

Lee Pitman
>>96865865

During the reaction when Gandalf leaves the shire to search for answers Dawn clearly says “I don’t understand what’s happening”. I just supplied some information from the book that would help. I clearly said, “based on the book”. Obviously, time passes differently in the movies, Dawn is aware of that. I never once said he is away for 17 years in the film.

MertzRocks
>>96865865

Right. I was saying that to Dawn, not you, Lee... Sorry I was unclear. Lee, I think both of us have enough wealth of Tolkien knowledge that between us we can answer anything Dawn might possibly ask.

MertzRocks
>>96738574

Whichever version she watches of WHATEVER she watches, SOMEONE is going to wish she had done "the other one" lol. It's inevitible because no one can please all of the people all of the time. AVATAR: there are THREE versions of that movie on my BluRay lol... Which one should Dawn react to once she gets around to it? (unless she's seen it already...)