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The 12th Bureau of China's spy agency, the Ministry of State Security (MSS), is not your typical clandestine spy operation. Officers of MSS's 12 bureau operate in the public eye. Rather than stealing state secrets, they seek to influence public opinion on China, which is why it's made up of a coterie of of academics, artists and business people. In this episode of China Unscripted, we talk about how China has been using the 12th bureau to shape the international conversation on China, examples of public figures it has co-opted, and some of the tactics it uses to co-opt them. Joining us in this episode is Alex Joske, the author of "Spies and Lies: How China's Greatest Covert Operations Fooled the World". You can buy 'Spies and Lies: How China's Greatest Covert Operations Fooled the World" at https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/spies-and-lies-alex-joske/1141413263 Don't forget to subscribe to the channel and hit that bell icon to get notified when new videos come out: https://bit.ly/3u1eKSZ And check out our other channel China Uncensored: https://youtube.com/channel/UCgFP46yVT-GG4o1TgXn-04Q Merchandise: https://www.chinaunscripted.com/merchandise Our website: https://www.chinaunscripted.com YouTube demonetizes our videos, which is why we rely on support from viewers like you. Please join our 50¢ army at: https://www.patreon.com/chinaunscripted https://www.chinauncensored.locals.com https://www.chinaunscripted.com/support Our social media: Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ChinaUncensored Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChinaUncensored Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ChinaUncensored #China