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Lucifer | 1x8 'Et Tu, Doctor?' (Patreon)

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2022-08-26 19:27:11
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2022-10-08 15:33:45
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Sherry Sink

Fantastic reaction to the episode! I loved the twists and how they surprised you. I remember when I saw this one for the first time, I was SO MAD at Dan. He really lived up to his nickname "Detective Douche." And looking back at him in all the earlier episodes made me even madder at him. Because if you think about it, he was the one telling Chloe that she was crazy, and "seeing things" about the Palmetto case, and that she should drop it, and basically this whole time he's been letting the entire precinct hate Chloe for pursuing Malcolm as a dirty cop, letting her take all the heat, when in reality it was all true... Chloe was right about everything. She just doesn't know that Dan's involved. And that is some serious betrayal. He let the entire precinct treat her like crap, her reputation as a detective and a cop ruined, with her stuck on crappy assignments for a while, trying to prove her worth all over again. And he was her HUSBAND, yet he still did this to her. And all the times he lectured her about how she needs to step up and do things right this time, and how he yelled at her for Lucifer being in her house, telling her that he was "disappointed" in her, when behind her back he was doing all of this. What a jerk. I wanted to slap him. Anyway, the case for this one wasn't totally interesting to me. The more important stuff was the character development. I loved the Dr. Linda / Lucifer / Chloe interactions (SO funny) and the analysis of their relationships. I thought it was really interesting to see Linda decide not to sleep with Lucifer anymore. And I loved Dr. Linda meeting Maze for the first time, and Maze trying to intimidate her, only for Linda to be pretty unflappable, which made Maze say "I like you." That's high praise coming from Maze! Lol. I don't think Maze likes many people. :) So, all in all, another good episode. Not as great as Favorite Son or Wingman, but definitely good.

Celia Fox

So the questions really begin with those twists and turns! Your face really made me laugh out loud when you realised that Dan shot Malcolm...oh Detective Douche- what have you been doing? (And just as you were beginning to like him! ) There is so much story, intrigue and surprises to come about all of these characters that if you are not already, you will become invested in! Next episode is a real fan favourite and the episode also where my interest and enjoymenyt of this Show finally became an addiction. As a matter of interest it is also one of, if not the favourite, episode of Tom Ellis himself as he has said many times in interviews. It is in episode 9 where many Lucifans realised that this story was ready to become something deeper and special. Thanks for your reaction to episode 8. I shall count the days to episode 9. You are fast becoming a favourite Lucifer reactor.

Heidi Elizabeth Marcum

Et Tu, Doctor?- Thank you so much once again for another reaction for Lucifer, Travis! I am so happy you loved this episode, and are continuing to love this phenomenal show so much! I really enjoy this episode overall, although I will admit that this is one of my least favorite episodes within season one. At least in regards to the main cheater therapy case itself, whereas the background stories going on with each of the characters is certainly fantastic. There is a lot of amazing mystery and great storylines going on with a number of the characters that I really love. But the overall case most certainly is pretty weak in comparison to most others. I don't care much for the case at all, aside from it helping to develop Lucifer's jealousy and to help bring Linda more into this show's overall story. Other than for the show to use her simply as Lucifer's therapist and sex partner. First, regarding the meaning behind Amenadiel's false name, Canaan... Canaan is actually a well known name of a biblical city from whom the people who lived there were known as Canaanites. And Lucifer of course recognizes this right away because it's not at all a common name since biblical times. Or at least outside of biblical context. This is why Lucifer was quickly able to figure out that this "Dr. Canaan" must really be his brother. Because who else other than an angel would pass himself off as someone with a biblical name. Let alone an angel who has been seeking to get Lucifer back down to Hell for these last five years since Lucifer has left Hell. And of course he knows that Maze had given his brother the idea to use Linda against him, because she was the only one who knew he was seeing her. And second, regarding why Chloe and Dan are currently separated... Chloe tells Lucifer early in this episode that Dan had stopped making her and their daughter a priority, and starting focusing far too much on work only. Eventually, she grew tired of Dan constantly putting work ahead of their relationship. And I certainly can't blame her for this. I can imagine being a cop and having a family would be incredibly difficult, but Chloe always makes time to spend with Trixie, and she works hard to be able to be there for her daughter while also providing for her. Now, as for the title of this episode being Et Tu, Doctor?... it comes from one of Shakespeare's most famous plays, Julius Caesar, and is taken from one of its most famous lines... "Et Tu, Brute", spoken by Caesar to his General and closest friend once he betrays Caesar, when Brutus and a number of other traitors stab him over and over until Julius Caesar is dead. The words from both the title and when spoken by Lucifer, are a question simply meaning, "Even you?" It's a meaning spoken when one feels betrayed, just as Lucifer felt betrayed by Linda when she turned on him and sided with Chloe, then again felt betrayed in the end by Maze as well. I really love this. I love how every episode title is always name dropped into each episode except for in the Pilot, and that about 90% of the titles are spoken by Lucifer himself, while the rest are spoken by one of the other characters. Brilliant! As for the episode itself... I really like how this is Lucifer's first experience with feeling jealousy, which is his only real reason as far as he knows for disliking Dan, and why he continuously calls him Detective Douche. Because he's worried about Chloe still possibly being in love with him and that they may wind up getting back together, when he's come to be drawn to her himself even though he doesn't understand his feelings for her either. Now as for Dan... I actually really like his character overall. Don't get me wrong... I hate him for what's he's doing to Chloe by making her feel so weak and wrong for following her instincts. However, I love the intrigue as to why he shot Malcolm now that we know it has been him all along. And before I loved the intrigue into why he kept trying to keep Chloe from investigating further into the Palmetto case. Also... you can tell that he really cares deeply about Chloe and their daughter no matter what comes of their marriage. Although, Dan has definitely made some big mistakes with Malcolm and whatever his involvement with Malcolm is. Dan wound up shooting Malcolm at Palmetto Street for reasons unknown at this point, while Malcolm then shoots his partner, Detective Anthony Paolucci, and makes it appear like he had committed suicide in order to help cover up the truth about what really happened at Palmetto Street. And now... Dan is unfortunately caught between a rock and a hard place, because Malcolm is looking to want to keep working with him, and Dan is afraid of the truth coming out. Not just because he's afraid of what Chloe and his daughter will come to think of him, but because he most definitely appears to feel ashamed of his involvement, and also because Malcolm has now threatened his relationship with his family, and their lives. While Dan is definitely a douche for being so much more involved in the Palmetto case than we ever suspected him to be until now, a part of me does still feel for him a little bit. Because I suspect he has deeper reasons for doing all he's done. As for Dan encouraging Chloe to trust her instincts and to keep working to solve this case as he does in the previous episode, until the last episode... Wingman, Dan has been trying to encourage her to leave the case alone like everyone else, mostly to protect her. And I do believe this. However, upon seeing Chloe's determination to solve the mystery, especially with Malcolm almost dying in the end of the previous episode, Dan has come to realize that he has to show Chloe his support if he doesn't want to push her away, or if he doesn't want her to push him away should he deny her his help and support. Next... I really love how Lucifer makes it possible for Linda to become involved with them in their case. Him sleeping with the judge to get her to sign off on Dr. Martin is wrong and I don't condone his actions in the slightest, but the moment between them is funny. And I just love how Linda is able to give Lucifer and Chloe the information they need to help them figure out who all might be involved. I also love how Chloe and Linda come to an understanding between one another, and that by getting to know Chloe more so, it allows for Linda to see a new insight into her relationship with Lucifer, as well as new insight into Lucifer's struggles so she can continue to help him as not only her patient, but as her friend too. And in so doing, Linda also realizes that she no longer wants to sleep around with him because she no longer wishes to go against her ethics she knows she's broken. Linda really does care about helping her patients, and she's especially invested in trying to help Lucifer because she's come to care for him as a close friend. Just like Lucifer has come to see her as a close friend as well. This episode has certainly given me a greater appreciation for Linda. And I also really appreciate that Lucifer also understands respects Linda's wishes, because he is a good guy and he would never intentionally hurt anyone he cares about. One of this show's major themes is seeking redemption, and by Linda getting to know Chloe and Lucifer more so, it allows her to seek out redemption for herself. And while Dan is caught in the middle of something bad, and we don't know just how involved he truly is just yet, we still see that there's a part of him longing for redemption too. Or at least I do. I know that a lot of fans of this show struggle to like Dan at all within this first season. But I do, even though he's done a lot of things worth hating him for. If anything, I just find his character intriguing, and he's a very complex character. Also... I love that this episode begins with Lucifer celebrating what he's come to make his re-birthday, as a celebration of finally being freed of his father's and brother's hold over him, which is what he saw his wings to be. And I love that Chloe comes to LUX to offer him a special drink as a gift to celebrate with him, even though she brings Dan along and can't stay for more than a few minutes. It's interesting to me that in this scene, in spite of their banter and coldness towards one another, that Dan actually appears to be happy about being there when he drinks to Lucifer with Chloe. Until that jealousy rises up in both Lucifer and Dan, especially in Lucifer when Chloe leans in to hug him before she and Dan leaves LUX, then later leans in to hug Dan at Paolucci's crime scene to offer Dan comfort. As for Lucifer learning the lesson Linda has tried to help him with about his jealousy through his and Chloe's case... I find this whole storyline very interesting, as well as fun to explore. Even though his jealousy at time can come to feel more annoying. But then, we have to remember who Lucifer is, and that this is the first time he's ever felt jealous of anyone and anything. Lucifer doesn't understand feelings, least of all his own. Which is why he's come to see Linda. So, I completely understand. When Lucifer confronts and figures out who the killer is, it appears like he's figured out that he really is jealous towards Dan because he cares about Chloe, and yet, he still strangely refuses to admit it. Outside of him coming to realize that he wants Chloe to see him like he wants her to see him. As something more, outside of what she sees on the surface. Of course, it shows that he's just in deep denial towards his feelings, because he doesn't know how to deal with his emotions because they're all new for him. Although... it also appears he is joking around with Chloe a little in the ending about having come to terms with his jealousy, so perhaps he isn't so much as denying he's jealous, but that he is simply choosing to suppress it instead. And I can certainly understand that. Also... this case does help him to understand the feeling of jealousy more by the end, enough to help him recognize that Maze was the one who told Amenadiel about Linda, because she herself has also become jealous that Lucifer was changing from being the Devil she wants him to be. And I do like and appreciate this too. In spite of the green screen special effects looking really bad in this one particular scene, and more so than I've ever seen in any other episode... I love the scene on the roof between Lucifer and their first suspect who is about to kill himself, and how Lucifer actually helps the suspect find the will to go on living inadvertently. This scene is quite funny. And I love how cocky Lucifer is with him too. And lastly... I love that Lucifer is able to figure out the truth about Amenadiel being Dr. Canaan by the end through Linda, then how he confronts Maze upon realizing that the only one who could have told his brother about the doctor was her. It's interesting to see Lucifer turn against Maze upon feeling betrayed yet again, and by his protector too. It's sad, because I like their relationship and dynamic. Overall... I really enjoy this episode a lot. The characters are once again what makes this show so good. I enjoy this episode, and I especially enjoyed watching your reaction for it. So, thank you again, Travis! Sincerely, Heidi