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Kharkov Changes Hands for the Fourth Time (Patreon)

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2022-08-25 18:20:43
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2023-06

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Kharkov Changes Hands for the Fourth Time - WW2 - August 28, 1943

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Comments

Paul Murray

What kind of German forces are well behind the lines? You have an armored division just being transported through the Crimea. Are there no partisans to stop or slow it?

Anonymous

Kharkov. ...

Anonymous

And they are fighting around Kharkov again...I mean sadly, Russians and Ukrainiens this time

Anonymous

Well that was an interesting episode, other than the minor MAP part which appeared in the video. Hopefully it’ll get rectified before it goes on live Premiere on Saturday.

Anonymous

I wonder if there is any action around Leningrad, and in the northern part of the Nazi/Soviet front in general. We only hear about Kuban and the southern part of the front, but is is really so quiet "up there"? I understand there was too cold for bigger actions in winter, but it's (almost end of) summer now.

Anonymous

MacArthur did very well by bypassing Rabaul; Manus Island and Kavieng were excellent harbors for logistical purposes and Rabaul becomes the largest POW camp for Japanese troops administered by Japan. My dad was in the Canadian navy during the war- his ship was in a Gibraltar to UK convoy and the Germans attacked the convoy with those cruise missles. They sank a number of ships with them; dad remembered that as a bad day at the office.

Anonymous

Mr Indy, it would be wonderful if you have the same zeal when you cover Market Garden almost 1 year from now. I want to see your feelings when you will describe how the FIELD MARSHALL MONTGOMERY had bundled the opportunity to end the war faster and probably avoid all the slaughter during battle of budget. Is he not morally responsible for some of the boys who couldn't come back....

Anonymous

Buldge

Anonymous

Not sure that’s the take I’m familiar with, Rohit. Maybe my British bias is showing but my understanding is that operation market garden was an audacious and flawed plan to end the war in 1944 - but it was the only plan to try and achieve that. The problem is the logistics issues and strength of the German forces were not foreseen so the plan failed. I think it’s not right to say ‘Montgomery bungled the plan to end the war in 1944.’ , more to say ‘Montgomery tried to end the war in 1944 but the plan required taking too many objectives to be realistic’. Some might even say it was one bridge too far.

Anonymous

The Soviets don’t care that much about casualties. Their casualty numbers are horrendous.

Anonymous

Lord mountbatan's name is pronounced Lou-ee in the french style, not 'loo-iss' inthe american style. you go out of your way with pronoumciations of names like Jutland and bataan, why don't you do the same hewre?

Anonymous

There are Panzer divisions with 7 and 15 tanks and the Germans have an armored reserve?

Anonymous
>>90353295

Yes, Manstein's plan to win the war by defending actually worked quite well for the battles of western Ukraine. But things will change once the Russians cross the Dnieper.

Anonymous
>>90352181

No sir. There were lot of information that there were fresh panzer divisions enroute to the bridges AND THESE EVIDENCES were ignored. Plan to march in single available highway when even a small accident or breakdown would be catastrophic. And for the person who took 4 months to reach Tunisia from El Alamein to try finishing the war in rash dash with all the evidence of presence of enemies best forces around,,,,,I would call it plain stupidity and typical colonial arrogance

Anonymous
>>90352181

It was a gamble to end the war with airborne divisions that were raised up exactly for that kind of high risk operation. Its strategic failure conceals that it gained more territory for Allies with less casaulties than Hurtgen Forest or Battle of Bulge or Lorreine Campaign and Montgomery (who pitched it but it was airborne army generals Browning and Brereton who bungled the landing operation , Montgomery was NOT involved airborne operation planning while running land campaign in Belgium) had sense to stop it and limit casaulties after eight days.

Anonymous
>>90352181

And enemies best forces ? Only 10-20 panzers and 6.000 SS troops spread around the area of Arnhem after they lost almost all their heavy vehicles and guns at Falaise and retreat from France. (during Normandy Campaign and German rout in Normandy , France and Belgium which happened when Montgomery was overall Land Commander of Allies , thank you) The problem was close proximity of Ruhr industrial region from where they got supplied and received new vehicles and guns quickly after 17th September.

Anonymous
>>90352181

Sorry this is against what is known as history. It was a madness of Monty to show his non existent prowess and Eishenhowe timidness which led to conceiving the market garden and the loss of so many soldiers

Anonymous
>>90352181

"Your "known history" is at best biased at worst falsified on national and historical revisionism. One strategicaly failed operation does not make a person mad. Unless you judge a four star rank Field Marshal (who won all of his campaigns , from North Africa , to Sicily to Normandy as Overal Land Force commander) comfortably behind a chair 80 years after. Market Garden's casaulties were less than half of Hurtgwen Forest , Ardennes or Lorreine Campaign (but gained more ground than last three) , was not so big in WW2 standarts.