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The Red Army Bites Back... (Patreon)

Published:
2020-09-09 13:45:53
Imported:
2023-06

Content

Since the start of Operation Barbarossa, Germany has dominated more or less completely.
This week though, something happens at the Yelnya bridgehead that makes the German High Command choke on their coffee.

Hitler himself seems unfazed by the commotion. He releases Fuhrer Directive 35, with orders to initiate a siege of Leningrad as well as the launch of Operation Typhoon, with the sight set on Moscow.

At the same time, far from the cold and muddy Eastern Front, Japan is preparing for war in the Pacific...

Files

Victory for the Red Army! - WW2 - 107 - September 12, 1941

The German invasion of the Soviet Union has taken enormous amounts of territory, but this week the Red Army not only stops the Germans, they score a ringing victory. However, Leningrad comes under siege and Kiev is in great danger, and Adolf Hitler is issuing directives for the next phase of the Operation. Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory Or join The TimeGhost Army directly at: https://timeghost.tv Check out our TimeGhost History YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/timeghost?sub_confirmation=1 Follow WW2 day by day on Instagram @ww2_day_by_day -https://www.instagram.com/ww2_day_by_day/ Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimeGhostHistory/ Between 2 Wars: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrG5J-K5AYAU1R-HeWSfY2D1jy_sEssNG Source list: http://bit.ly/WW2sources Written and Hosted by: Indy Neidell Director: Astrid Deinhard Producers: Astrid Deinhard and Spartacus Olsson Executive Producers: Astrid Deinhard, Indy Neidell, Spartacus Olsson, Bodo Rittenauer Creative Producer: Joram Appel Post-Production Director: Wieke Kapteijns Research by: Indy Neidell Edited by: Iryna Dulka Sound design: Marek Kamiński Map animations: Eastory (https://www.youtube.com/c/eastory) Colorizations by: - Jaris Almazani (Artistic Man), https://instagram.com/artistic.man?igshid=k4l2ushhbwk5 - Olga Shirnina, a.k.a. Klimbim - https://klimbim2014.wordpress.com/ - Julius Jääskeläinen - https://www.facebook.com/JJcolorization/ - Carlos Ortega Pereira, BlauColorizations, https://www.instagram.com/blaucolorizations/ - Norman Stewart - https://oldtimesincolor.blogspot.com/ - Daniel Weiss Sources: - Mil.ru - Bundesarchiv, CC-BY-SA 3.0: Bild_102-08824 - Imperial War Museum: CR 165 Archive by Screenocean/Reuters https://www.screenocean.com. A TimeGhost chronological documentary produced by OnLion Entertainment GmbH.

Comments

Anonymous

It would be nice if instead of talking about how Japan might fight white people in the future, the episodes talked about how the Japanese are starting the second battle of Changsha on September 6th, you know the people they are actually fighting now in September. 10 years ago there weren't good books in English on the sino japanese part of the war. Now, there is Tower of Skulls by Richard Frank, Nationalist China at War by Hans Van de Ven... its galling to see the second largest part of the war, both in terms of forces and land area get no mention for 4 weeks, but 3 plucky RAF planes are highlighted. During the Great War, you guys were so good about highlighting the Russo Turkish front, the Bulgarian Greek front, the front in Italy.... You really worked hard to dispel the notion that WW1 was just the Western Front. I get that Barbarossa is the most important part of WW2 since June 22nd. But we've gone something like 10 weeks where it's been only eastern front, with some British north Africa + RAF + naval frosting. Japan has only been mentioned in relation to possible plans to fight the Western Powers because, after all, the Western powers were the important ones in the end. It's massive hindsight bias. When Enver Pasha sent his doomed expedition into the Carpathians in the Great War, you guys tracked them week by week as they were frozen and defeated. You didn't say "Russia will be out by 1917 and the Ottoman Russian Front wasn't decisive so let's just ignore the ottomans unless it's Gallipoli or Lawrence of Arabia." Instead, by tracking all of the fronts, you made us feel the pointless death, the frustration of generals trying to find some way to win, but failing. The scale and the waste was palpable and you felt like these leaders and the people dying. I get that WW2 is more dramatic. You get to have cool animations with sweeping panzer encirclements. But it's come at the cost of those fronts where people are standing, fighting, starving, and dying with no great territorial change... no clear "this is the turning point!" A WW2 channel that is 70% eastern front, 20% following plucky Brits around, and 10% everything else... is just every other English language history of WW2. I enjoy the content... it just seems a bit like its nesting itself comfortably in retelling the greatest hits.

Anonymous
>>43744403

Mostly agreed with your points that other fronts (even if they are less important, decisive) also deserve some time in the weekly episodes, with the caveat that the channel is still doing wayyyyyy better for an English-speaking point of view. The Eastern front, while known to be important, is usually summed up as: 1. blitzkrieg 2. stalingrad, moscow, leningrad 3. ???? 4. berlin which I think is still a huge improvement over typical coverage since we see the more detailed shortcomings of operations and a more nuanced narrative. Your point is still stands, as it does feel like the Eastern front is getting a lot of hype but ends up feeling more repetitive than sluggish. Maybe it's unavoidable due to the nature of the fighting but would be nice to use that "repeated" space for these less well known fronts. I will also add that the Asian front feels significantly less detailed than even the Middle-East. Whether this be due to language barriers for texts (my guess) or something else, I do hope more effort is spent here.

Anonymous

There almost needs to be a separate series on the Asian-Pacific theatre.

Anonymous

So when are we going to see a special on Sidor Kovpak's 1st Ukrainian Partizan Division?

Anonymous

What would be interesting is to have a more detailed view of what goes on in those battles. For example, how do the Germans defeat the superior soviet tanks? What is typical ratio of German Panzers/88's and Soviet tanks?

Anonymous
>>43744403

I don't object to the Eastern Front being a slog... or the depth. They've done an admirable job of dispelling the idea that the initial phase of the German invasion was "easy." I just feel that the hindsight bias is strongly driving this series. In the Great War series, it really did feel more open ended about how it was going to end up and which theaters would be important. We got to see all 12 battles of the Isonzo... not because they were decisive, but because they were there and hundreds of thousands of people were involved. You could argue that the Italo Austrian front wasn't important beyond tying down It was the definition of a stalemate, but the channel reminded us regularly that people were fighting and dying. Here, Asia is being sidelined because they know that A) Japan is going to knock the Western powers out of Asia early and hard when they declare war, B) it's a stalemate on the Chinese mainland that doesn't really change because the Japanese are able to keep the western allies ever getting aide to China effectively.... It's like cutting out all of the battles of the Isonzo because you know that they weren't what ended up knocking out the central powers.

Anonymous
>>43744403

Ah ok gotcha when your points are put together, you definitely have a point.

Anonymous
>>43798779

I would be too long, maybe a special would be great but, in those episodes there is no info in the Asian theatre so putting details of battles is too much i think