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The Minimalists speak with Wendy Smith, author of Both/And Thinking, about inner conflict, minimalist job hunting, apocalyptic thinking, decision-making anxiety, difficult relationships, and more!

Discussed in this episode:

Why did Wendy Smith write Both/And Thinking? (02:31)

How do we better analyze and accept our shortcomings and failures? (04:37)

What is “emotional ambivalence”? (13:18)

How do we determine what jobs are the best fit for us? (17:13)

How do we best manage our anxiety regarding current crises? (26:45)

What are “rabbit holes, wrecking balls, and trench warfare”? (29:09)

What is the false trade-off between big changes and small actions? (30:04)

What is the difference between help and support? (33:06)

What is “ecobricking”? (36:31)

How do I make commitments and let go of my FOMO? (37:52)

What is the “possibility of opportunity”? (43:25)

What is problematic regarding absolute certainty? (44:05)

How do I choose between a fulfilling job and a lucrative job? (46:43)

How do we shift from “either-or thinking” to “both-and thinking”? (49:02)

What is a “statement of vision”? (50:08)

How do we avoid sacrificing passion for profit? (51:29)

Segment: Lightning Round (56:33)

How do we tactfully manage rocky relationships with family and friends? (57:12)

How do we commit to leaving an unfulfilling job? (1:01:11)

What are “competence traps”? (1:03:34)

Listener comments and minimalism tips. (1:07:40)

Segment: More About Less (1:12:24)

What is the danger in participating in “retail therapy” as self-care? (1:18:08)

Segment: Talkaboutables (1:22:00)

What is the “Once a Month Rule”? (1:28:10)

Segment: Obsolete Objects (1:33:37)

Segment: Advertisements Suck (1:41:06)

Segment: Photo Friday Home Tour (1:51:29)

Why do we relentlessly search for contentment? (1:55:52)

Segment: Right Here, Right Now (1:59:55)

Segment: Added Value (2:00:59)

LINKS

Added Value: Towel

Article: Roaming the Aisles as Self-Care?

Book: Both/And Thinking

Book: Love People, Use Things

Book: Minimalist Rulebook

Essay: How to Understand Your Values

Essay: The Advice Epidemic

Event: Sunday Symposium

Podcast: Expired Things

Podcast: How to Love

Resources: The Minimalists

Subscribe: The Minimalists

TikTok: How to Love

TikTok: How to Write Better

TikTok: Minimalism Life

TikTok: The Minimalists

Watch: Dan Harris

Watch: Minimalism

Website: How to Write Better

Website: Wendy Smith

MAXIMS

Every ounce of inner conflict is self-inflicted.

Accepting discomfort is comforting.

There’s nothing to hold on to.

Wonder is a fire extinguisher for anxiety.

Dreams don’t come true—decisions do.

The closer you are to someone, the greater the chaos.

Compassion conceives connection.

You can let something go without throwing it away.

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Comments

Shaun

The idea of wandering around a Target sounds the exact opposite of relaxing to me. Shopping causes me anxiety.

Naomi Crowfoot

Guys this episode for me was outstanding, thank you so much ☺️ missed TK tho, wish you better 😘