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Patreon Exclusive. Joshua and Ryan talk about identifying and addressing our desires to free ourselves from their allure with author and professor Luke Burgis, and they answer the following questions:

What is the “joy of hate watching”? (00:00)

What is the origin of “scapegoat”? (03:05)

Why would prestige be preferred over fame? (10:50)

Is the freedom that mystics experience the freedom to aspire to? (18:16)

What is our love/hate relationship with our models? (19:58)

What is the “cult of competition”? (23:31)

What is the Diderot effect? (27:45)

What is the “reflexivity of desire”? (29:33)

How do I address my longing for things that are impossible to attain, like being young again or bringing back loved ones who have passed? (34:40)

How important is it to get to the root of our desire? (35:34)

How important is gratitude? (39:02)

What effect has the pandemic had on desire? (40:54)

Is wanting things inherently bad? (42:49)

What role does desire fulfill in our lives? (47:47)

How are innovation and desire related? (54:05)

How do we help our kids understand desire, especially with regards to marketing versus true wants? (58:13)

How important is it for us to consider how we’re models for others? (1:04:35)

Why do we want the belongings of loved ones who have passed, even if there’s no sentimental attachment? (1:06:51)

What do The Minimalists want? (1:12:03)

LINKS

Book: Love People, Use Things

Book: The Courage to Be Disliked

Book: The Motion of the Body Through Space

Book: Wanting

Facebook: Luke Burgis

Instagram: Luke Burgis

Instagram: Jordan Moore

Instagram: Podcast Shawn

Instagram: Jess Williams

Podcast: How to Love

Podcast: Wanting

Quote: Louis CK

Resources: The Minimalists

Subscribe: The Minimalists

Text: 937-202-4654

Tour: The Minimalists

Twitter: Luke Burgis

Watch: Less Is Now

Website: Luke Burgis

MAXIMS

“The thing you want is never the thing you want.” —Joshua Fields Millburn

“Our sky-high levels of debt are proxies for our levels of mimetic desires.” —Luke Burgis

“Our desires often lead to our misery.” —Joshua Fields Millburn

“The thing you want is never the thing you want.” —Joshua Fields Millburn

“What you want usually isn’t what you desire.” —Joshua Fields Millburn

“More media, more misery.” —Ryan Nicodemus

“Follow your desires to the end to discover what you truly want; discover the thick desires underneath the thin desires.” —Luke Burgis

“The desire to not have desires is a prison.” —Ryan Nicodemus

“Letting go is not something you do—it’s something you stop doing.” —Joshua Fields Millburn

This Maximal episode corresponds with Minimal episode 290.

Files

Private Podcast | "The Joy of Hate Watching"

Joshua and Ryan talk about identifying and addressing our desires to free ourselves from their allure with author and professor Luke Burgis, and they answer the following questions: 00:00 What is the “joy of hate watching”? 03:05 What is the origin of "scapegoat”? 10:50 Why would prestige be preferred over fame? 18:16 Is the freedom that mystics experience the freedom to aspire to? 19:58 What is our love/hate relationship with our models? 23:31 What is the “cult of competition”? 27:45 What is the Diderot effect? 29:33 What is the “reflexivity of desire”? 34:40 How do I address my longing for things that are impossible to attain, like being young again or bringing back loved ones who have passed? 35:34 How important is it to get to the root of our desire? 39:02 How important is gratitude? 40:54 What effect has the pandemic had on desire? 42:49 Is wanting things inherently bad? 47:47 What role does desire fulfill in our lives? 54:05 How are innovation and desire related? 58:13 How do we help our kids understand desire, especially with regards to marketing versus true wants? 1:04:35 How important is it for us to consider how we’re models for others? 1:06:51 Why do we want the belongings of loved ones who have passed, even if there’s no sentimental attachment? 1:12:03 What do The Minimalists want?

Comments

Cindy Muzzi

Very insightful discussion. I took notes. One thing Luke said that stuck with me “Cultivating a deeper desire for what we have instead of desiring what we don’t have.”