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Patreon Exclusive. Joshua and Ryan discuss our constant striving for optimization with author Jamie Wheal, and they answer the following questions:

How has our modern search for truth become so convoluted? (00:00)

What are twice-born humans? (02:23)

What is the “state of no mind”? (03:56)

What are death practices? (06:15)

What is the “God-shaped hole”? (13:33)

Are hierarchies necessary? (14:25)

What is hedonic engineering? (27:34)

Why are top-down solutions so problematic? (31:45)

Has civilization caused more problems than it’s solved? (34:17)

What’s the point—does any of this even matter? (44:02)

How can the sacred burn us? (46:15)

How do we step back from nihilism? (48:50)

How do we find meaning in relationships, and how do we rediscover meaning in a formerly meaningful relationship that’s lost its meaning? (51:56)

Can we put the genie back in the bottle? (53:31)

What is sexual fitness? (55:52)

What are the three stages of sex? (58:16)

LINKS

Book: Civilized to Death

Book: Ishmael

Book: Recapture the Rapture

Book: Sand Talk

Book: Sapiens

Book: The Immortality Key

Explore: Eroto-comatose Lucidity

Explore: Mystical Experience Questionnaire

Facebook: Jamie Wheal

Instagram: Jordan Moore

Instagram: Podcast Shawn

Instagram: Jamie Wheal

Instagram: Jess Williams

Podcast: Finding Meaning

Podcast: Christopher Kelly

Resources: The Minimalists

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Text: 937-202-4654

Tour: The Minimalists

Twitter: Jamie Wheal

Watch: Altered States

Watch: Wade Davis

Website: Jamie Wheal

Website: Flow Genome Project

Website: Recapture the Rapture

Website: Jamie Wheal

YouTube: Flow Genome Project

MAXIMS

“Suffering is not the way, but it illuminates the path toward a more meaningful life.” —Joshua Fields Millburn

“Compassion is the antidote to suffering.” —Ryan Nicodemus

This Maximal episode corresponds with Minimal episode 285.

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Gideon Maxwell

What’s the term for “make or break me” that Jamie uses at 49:16? I can’t seem to spell it correctly.

veronica lerner

After listening to this I read “recapture the rupture” . While I can understand his description of “the world is ending” and hedonistic engineering as a response to this on an individual level I can not follow his “ethical culture building” part of the book. I don’t see much practical substance there. What do others think?