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The Minimalists sit down with the founder of Patreon, Jack Conte, to discuss the death of the follower, earning a living from creative work, why the joy of creating is often ruined by the demands of revenue, post-entertainment society, what it means to follow your passion, and much more.

Discussed in this episode:

What’s the minimalist-approved way to ethically promote my creative work? (2:26)

If you could earn a living doing anything in the world, what would it be? (22:23)

What two new segments are coming to The Minimalists Private Podcast? (44:19)

Listener insight: a poem about decluttering. (46:07)

What is the future of Patreon? (48:21)

How is social media negatively affecting artists and their audiences? (53:32)

How do I make the shift from an “ordinary job” to a more fulfilling “creative job”? (1:06:07)

What new improvements have Patreon been working on? (1:27:36)

What is Jack Conte’s favorite Pomplamoose song? (1:29:31)

LINKS

Added Value: “Bust Your Kneecaps

Article: “The State of the Culture, 2024”

Book: Amusing Ourselves to Death

Book: So Good They Can’t Ignore You

Book: We Are the Flowers

Course: How to Write Better

Film: Minimalism

Listen: Pomplamoose

Tour: The Everything Tour

Watch: The Death of the Follower

Watch: Sunday Symposium

MAXIMS

Good businesses make money; great businesses make a difference.

Income is not the only important outcome.

I dream of a world where there is no distinction between pay and play.

The joy of creating is often extinguished by the demands of income.

Don’t follow your passion—cultivate it.

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Barna Akkas

The back of the ham hahaha. That got me so good!

Amber Burns

Great episode! I loved the question of the week that was discussed and the point of views given.