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Castle for Jon Stark? (Patreon)

Published:
2022-11-15 15:54:52
Imported:
2023-07

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Since Jon Snow was legitimized by Robert and practically restored Rhaegar's bloodline unknowingly, he needs a seat of power. Some of the options below are obviously occupied by other Houses or in need of repair as the story is currently at 292 AC. 

Also, choose the Red Keep if you want Jon as king on the Iron Throne.

Comments

Kevin Thunder

I think Brandon for the Moat would be good. He could get with Meera Reed then. Of course, Meera/Robb would also be a unique pairing.

Rolando Estrada

Dragonstone should be for Danerys if she comes back to Westeros, the Red Keep and Moat Cailin are better options for him. Harrenhall is very likely haunted XD

Dragonspectre
>>95673395

Dragonstone is usually given to the heir. In the absence of a child, Dany's heir is Jon, if she acknowledges him. That's why I gave the option.

Dragonspectre

Harrehall is in a strategic location. I think it'll be better if the whole thing is torn down and a new castle is built in the place.

Zachary Williams
>>95682252

By your same logic shouldn’t Jon have dibs on dragon stone and the iron throne as HIS blood right? If we are going by who technically should inherit then there’s not much pint in asking what he should get.

Dragonspectre
>>95682252

Technically, he has no blood right. He is not a Targaryen. He is a bastard son of Rhaegar.

Zachary Williams
>>95682252

By canon they were married and he was a Targaryen his name and birth right stolen from him by his uncle and his uncles best friend. It’s why I don’t like Eddard stark. For a man who speaks of honor so much he has none because he fully intended for Jon to go to the watch where he would be no threat to his friends reign. Also it’s shown in the show that a bastard Targaryen would’ve had more right then Robert (whose primary hold on the throne comes from his Targaryen grandmother) to the throne when his bastard children were murdered off in fear of their right to the throne because their claim would’ve been stronger then any Lannister claim.

Dragonspectre
>>95682252

In show canon yes. Rhaegar marrying Lyanna is not exactly legal in any sense. Polygamy was outlawed ya know. And Lyanna was 14 while Rhaegar was in his early thirties. Not exactly the love story show-writers are spinning. It looks more and more like a Daemon-Rhaenyra pairing.

Zachary Williams
>>95682252

Oh I was under no illusions that it was a marriage of love. Even in the show it’s heavily hinted that she was infatuated with him while he used that to complete the fire and ice prophecy his ancestor handed down. However it was 100% legal because the high septon ( the reason polygamy was outlawed originally) signed off on it knowing his trueborn son was sickly and unlikely to survive to take the throne while his wife was to sickly to bear another child and his father’s madness was very well known. If he had set her aside and done it the proper way his wife likely would’ve been executed by his father for being unable to produce an heir. This is backed up when bran calls him aegon Targaryen and Sam well Tarly finds the high sections journal proving brans words.

Réka Nagy-Buza
>>95682252

Rhaegar was barely 24 years old when he was killed, Lyanna just turned 17 or was about to when she died. There was about 7-8 years between them and Lyanna was 15-16 when they married (she was about to be married off to Robert, so clearly she was not too young for marriage according to everyone in universe) Lysa was 15 also when she was married to 65 year old Jon Arryn but I don't hear people complaining about that or calling him a phedophile like people do with Rhaegar, when in the books the characters found the age difference between Lyanna and Rhaegar mostly ok and the Lysa-Jon difference disgusting/weird. I seriously don't understand this? Can someone please help explaine this to me?

Zachary Williams
>>95682252

Age isn’t what bothered me with them. It was that rhaegar had clearly used lyanna and started a war because of his own madness. I always think it’s overlooked in books and the show that rhaegar was just as mad as his father he just hid it better and wasn’t a murderous sort of mad. More of “I’m a god” kind of mad. It becomes even more fucked when you realize he ‘stole’ his cousins intended. And based on what I can fine it wasn’t like that one cousin you see once a decade at the family reunion. As aerys used the baretheon parents in an attempt to find a Valyrian bride for rhaegar.

Dragonspectre
>>95682252

I think people tend not to give much focus on Lysa. Mostly because almost all asoiaf fans are Stark fans. Lysa caused Ned Stark's downfall to some extent. So, she tends to garner less sympathy.