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The Wire: Season 3 - Episode 11 & 12 - Patreon Exclusive (Patreon)

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2023-05-09 12:00:03
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The Wire: Season 3 - Episode 11 & 12 - Patreon Exclusive

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Tenn Seven

Simone's a lil' gangsta now! "Stringer gets got!"

Bennett Holleman

Bubbles is like The Dude- He abides.

Anonymous

Flutter like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Was that what you were both thinking?

Nerd Going Outside

The thing I love about that last scene with Stringer and Avon is that these are dudes that both still clearly love each other and regret what they *feel like* they have to do in betraying each other... but both of them are betraying the other over some bullshit. Stringer snitches on Avon because he's fucking up their business and cash flow... but so what? Stringer already said earlier in the season that they already made so much money they aren't going to be alive to spend it all. Dude has who knows how many millions, and property too. If he wanted to he could tell Avon good luck, dip out, and have more than enough for the rest of his life. But no - he wants more of that cash flow. He's betraying his brother over greed. And Avon? Mouzone didn't threaten to kill Avon if he didn't give Stringer up. He said he'd lose his line to New York, and his reputation. He wouldn't be able to run his crew anymore, but again... fuck it, right? He has enough money. He could have told Mouzone to kick rocks, he wasn't giving Stringer up, warned Stringer, and the two could have retired together with their mountain of cash. But no - he protected his rep with his brother's life. As a viewer we might feel like one of them was more right than the other, but at the end of the day they are both ruthless motherfuckers drunk on their own particular bullshit and willing to sacrifice their best friend since childhood over it. And deep down they both know it. The other thing I wanted to point out, as we say goodbye to stringer, is that while in D'Angelo's final monologue about The Great Gatsby he was talking about himself, everything he said really applies to Stringer here at the end. D'Angelo: "He's saying that the past is always with us, and where we come from, what we go through, how we go through it, all this shit matters. I mean, that's what I thought he meant... "Like at the end of the book, you know, boats and tides and all. It's like you can change up, right, you can say you somebody new, you can give yourself a whole new story. But, what came first is who you really are and what happened before is what really happened. "And it don't matter that some fool say he different cuz the only thing that make you different is what you really do, what you really go through. Like, ya know, like all them books in his library. He frontin with all them books, but if you pull one down off the shelf, ain't none of the pages ever been opened. He got all them books, and he ain't read near one of 'em. "Gatsby, he was who he was, and he did what he did. And cuz he wasn't ready to get real with the story, that shit caught up to him. I think, anyway." Someone put together a YouTube video that really says it, IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT76S1XvUag

Travis H

Just wanted to post about what may be my favorite scene of the entire series, the final scene between Avon and Stringer. Both of them on the rooftop reminiscing/ saying goodbye to be each other because both of them betrayed the other (and neither knowing it) is one of the best written scenes in any media and it plays even better on repeat viewings knowing where both of them end up. Just spectacular writing! Like everyone else here, can’t wait for S4 it is my favorite.

redddfer44

A few miscellaneous things about S3, no foreshadowing or spoilers: - I love to hear what you guys think, even if you miss some things right now. This is a really complex show and it's impossible to spot everything on the first watch. Especially because some stuff is left open to interpretation. - I agree, this is the most realistic season yet -- one wouldn't be wrong to speak of the genre "realism" or even "naturalism" here. It doesn't obey tv tropes, but tries to portray the world through a story. Like all the best writers (and Bunny), they make up the rules as it goes along. - Cellphones: I don't what cops can get direct access to, but in real life, telephone companies get the details of the phone. IIRC, each telephone call is connected to a SIM card, but also to the IMEI number of the device in question. So even if you switch between SIMs, there's the possibility of identifying the device you're calling from. - String didn't get legal justice, but he got what was coming to him and it wasn't slow either. He spent a lot of the season frustrated and scared, and even when he thought he was getting ahead in life, towards the end his perspective shifted and he really knew that he had lost. I think it feels pretty tragic in how it portrays how hubris works: you think you're ambitious and successful, while all the while you're digging your own grave. - I love the scene in String's apartment. The reveal and the confusion. - Bunny not changing the city is really sad. But I'm glad that he realized he'd done the right thing. He wasn't sure what he was doing right at the beginning and he wasn't a thinker, but when the situation got more complicated than he thought, he always did what he thought was right. That's more than most people in the show can say. And of course, the gods weren't happy about it. - I dig what they did with the mayor. He started out as an asshole, but I think that for a moment there, he actually considered doing the right thing. From my perspective, he didn't get what was coming to him -- on the contrary, he was about to change himself and try to radically change the city as well, but couldn't. There was sadness in his eyes.

Anonymous

Interesting, I always saw the mayor scenes in the end as a matter of path to governor, or maybe senate or white house. Or at the least, legacy. I don't see him concerned with the people, but only with the politics. And yes, one can't ignore the politics because with no power there is no power to help, but I still don't see it. As for Stringer, I also don't see a concern for a lack of justice. McNulty's problem is that he beat Stringer and Stringer doesn't know it. It's about ego, and a host of personal reasons that have very little to do with Stringer himself or justice.

Anonymous

The thing about "Hampsterdam" is there was nothing going on there that wasn't already going on, it was just concentrated and not dispersed amongst the populace where it's easier to ignore and write off as a problem of addicts as individuals and a usually unacknowledged burden of their families and friends. Seeing it clustered enables a more immediate observation of the cause and effect of addiction and the public policies that have not only failed to retard sale and use of narcotics but have corrupted law enforcement and governance by making them financially culpable in the continuance of the drug war as "enforcement." "if it's a lie, then we fight on that lie" was as much about the war on drugs as it was about the street level fight for territory.

Gary Coaston

Szn4, brace urselves.

Jesse Coombs

I'm very excited you guys are going straight into season 4. It's probably my favorite show. (Well, maybe tied with "Twin Peaks: The Return")