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This ended up being a way more expansive topic than I realized, so rather than doing something comprehensive I end up touching on a lot of subjects that deserve way more time than I can give here. 

Also I love how not here for this Kong is in the thumbnail.

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My Monster Boyfriend!

Minor Spoilers for The Shape of Water - Some have called The Shape of Water ... gimmicky, shall we say, but the desire to get down and dirty with monsters is (wait for it) a tale as old as time. Featuring special guest La'Ron Readus: https://www.youtube.com/user/Readus101 Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/loosecanon Sources and further reading: Davis, Lauren. "Why Is Monster Erotica So Popular Anyway?" Io9. N.p., 31 Mar. 2014. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-is-monster-erotica-so-popular-anyway-1555486278 Dee. "Review: The Ancient Magus' Bride – Episode 1." Anime Feminist. N.p., 08 Oct. 2017. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. http://www.animefeminist.com/review-ancient-magus-bride-episode-1/ Lipstein, Andrew. "'Cum For Bigfoot': The Rise, Fall, and Future of Monster Erotica." Vice. N.p., 15 Mar. 2015. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yvqady/cum-for-bigfoot-the-rise-fall-and-future-of-monster-erotica-234 Stampler, Laura. "Amazon Is at War with Monster Erotica." Time. Time, 23 Dec. 2013. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/23/amazon-is-at-war-with-monster-erotica/ Valentine, Genevieve. "Tale As Old As Time: The Dark Appeal of 'Beauty And The Beast'."NPR. NPR, 26 Mar. 2017. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. https://www.npr.org/2017/03/26/515434292/tale-as-old-as-time-the-dark-appeal-of-beauty-and-the-beast Faircloth, Kelly. "'Beauty and the Beast' Comes From a Long Line of Stories About Women Hooking Up With Animals." Pictorial. Pictorial.jezebel.com, 28 Mar. 2017. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. https://pictorial.jezebel.com/beauty-and-the-beast-comes-from-a-long-line-of-stories-1793675825 Gonder, Patrick. "Race, Gender and Terror: The Primitive in 1950s Horror Films." University of Colorado Boulder. 02 Feb. 2017. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. https://www.colorado.edu/gendersarchive1998-2013/2004/12/01/race-gender-and-terror-primitive-1950s-horror-films Donaldson, Kayleigh. "Stupid Sexy Monsters: Why We like Beastly Romances." Syfy. SYFY WIRE, 25 Oct. 2017. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/stupid-sexy-monsters-why-we-like-beastly-romances Painter, Ryan. "Empathy for the Other: Guillermo Del Toro Talks 'The Shape of Water'." KUTV. 10 Dec. 2017. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. http://kutv.com/news/entertainment/empathy-for-the-other-guillermo-del-toro-talks-the-shape-of-water Lambie, Ryan. "Guillermo Del Toro Interview: The Shape Of Water, Shame and Perversity." Den of Geek. 13 Feb. 2018. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/guillermo-del-toro/55247/guillermo-del-toro-interview-the-shape-of-water-shame-and-perversity "Interview De Koré Yamazaki (The Ancient Magus Bride)." Manga News. 22 Jan. 2016. Web. 28 Feb. 2018. https://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2016/01/19/Interview-de-Kore-Yamazaki-The-Ancient-Magus-Bride Rony, Fatimah Tobing. The Third Eye: Race, Cinema, and Ethnographic Spectacle. Durham and London: Duke University Press, 1996. Wiegman, Robyn. American Anatomies: Theorizing Race and Gender. Durham and London: Duke University Press, 1995. Tatar, Maria. Beauty and the Beast: Classic Tales about Animal Brides and Grooms from around the World. Penguin Books, 2017. “Preface.” "Frankenstein, or The Modern Prometheus" (1831 Ed.), by Mary Shelley, Longman, 1831.

Comments

Anonymous

shape of water is probably the first of this genre to actually show the girl fucking her monster boyfriend though.

Anonymous

This is honestly all I've ever wanted. Bring the wine

Reuben

I love that Chuck Tingle is mainstream romance now. LOVE IS REAL!

Anonymous

I was in the middle of writing, but Lindsay beckoned.

Anonymous

Wait, so does this mean The Babadook really is an LGBT character?

Noclip

This was super great!

Anonymous

Extraordinary work. I'd love to hear you expand on that "[white] woman as embodiment of status quo" idea. I'm sure there's gender work on trappings of the private sphere and therefore women as vessels for a culture's expectations, aspirations, and self-judgments. ~A Jealous Bitch

Rebel Girl

Me: Mention GRRM, mention GRRM... *pic and music* YES!

Anonymous

Videos like this are what really make me miss university. Excellent as always!

Anonymous

Liked and favorited, as always. A lot of information I wasn't aware of and a fascinating topic. I'm curious, though, how did you get so much footage of The Shape of Water? The footage you're using is definitely from the full film and not trailers, did it come out on Blu-ray/digital and I missed it?

Anonymous

AHHH HOLY SHIT!!! I"M SO PLEASED YOU GOT LA'RON REDUS! So pleased I got to introduce you to his channel <3 <3 Great vid!

lindsayellis

True fax: he actually reached out to me, and I haaaaaappened to be planning a video on the same topic!

Bardcraft

I remember leaving the theater with tons of people being gross out her having sex with the fishman and making the theme more honest and poignant.

Anonymous

A video on monster loving is what finally got me to subscribe on Patreon

Anonymous

I’m not gonna lie, the fish man does it for me. And so does Sidon from Breath of the Wild and Kit Fisto from Star Wars. Funny enough, never been big into Aquaman 😆

Anonymous

My first Patreon post from you. I'm so excited 😄

Anonymous

[pauses at 16:58] [falls over]

Anonymous

Great video Lindsay. The Clash of the Titans footage was a fantastic choice.

Anonymous

I see Starscream is here for this too

Jennifer Miller

I feel like Martin had a LOT of help writing Beauty and the Beast.

Matthew Dunne

Hmm, I want to watch this, but... does it have spoilers for The Shape of Water?

Anonymous

Massive spoilers! Be warned!!

Mister CPU

It is an open secret that the Creature from the Black Lagoon is a favorite of the ladies in the monster fan community. It could be in part that the Gill-man was designed by a lady, Milicent Patrick.

Matthew Dunne

I'll save it until after Saturday, then (assuming that Storm Emma does not bury me).

Matt Eldritch

While I was watching this, I was thinking about stuff like Family Guy, We Bare Bears and Howard the Duck that feature human/antro animal romance. Why is it so prevelent in media? Why is it mostly confined to male animals to human women? Why do the worlds they inhabit condone this sort of beastiality?

LL

I want to write a really well thought out comment, but every time the video cuts back to Lindsay I get distracted the fabulous Starscream figure in the background.

lindsayellis

Interesting to note that two of those examples are basically author avatars (especially Brian).

Anonymous

I was always disappointed as a kid when the Beast transformed into the prince. Oh no, not a BOY, yuck. Then i discovered growing up i was not the only one. very interesting to learn about the history of monster-young women relations in fiction and how it relates to forced marriage. If expanded, I think there is also an interesting bridge in the recurrence in fiction of the young woman and Death - maybe the power and tragedy of submission to the unbreachable Otherness.

Anonymous

Parallel rule to Chekhov's Gun, Ellis' Starscream - if you show a Starscream figurine in the background, you have to reference Starscream by the end

Anonymous

Didn't know I needed this video essay in my life till I saw it, but thank you for doing this topic! I've always been fascinated with Beauty and the Beast stories in culture, so much so that I wrote my own novel about it, so it was really great to see the historical breakdown and inherent coding - keep it up girl!

SulaMoon

This was amazing :D Quick question: shouldn't there be a link to the guest channel on the description?

Anonymous

I remember that old Beauty and the Beast TV series with the manimal beast (well, sorta). Thanks for the nostalgia trip!

Anonymous

I did not recognize the photo of the writer of the Linda Hamilton B&B. I assume this marks me as totally out of the loop. Still, it might be helpful to have a caption for the similarly un-hip.

Anonymous

Funny coincidence... You're our first subscription on Patreon, and this was the first video since subscribing. I've really enjoyed your content, as has my ninth grade daughter. Recently we were discussing one of your videos, and she suggested we support you. So, unbeknownst to her, I subscribed in her name. I thought it would be cute for her to find out she was a Patron by seeing her name at the end of your video. As it happens, the past two weeks she's been studying Mary Shelley's Frankenstein in her Language Arts class. Way to deliver!

Anonymous

Amazing video as always

Anonymous

I wish there were more videos coming out per month. But I totally get the directed effort into your video craft. Just a notice, I saw that the Patreon logo at the end of the video was blocking a lot of the Patrons rewarded with a mention. Not sure if that's the most sensible place to put that clickable sticker.

Anonymous

Loved the use of "Dream Lover." The 80s Beauty and the Beast was the first time I participated in a write-in "save our show" campaign. I loved it, especially the underworld. It turned the whole thing on its head not just with Vincent being cultured and sexy, but by having the character of Elliot Burch transform from a Donald Trumpish developer into someone who risks his life to do the right thing because he's been transformed by love. Must go home and rewatch.

Anonymous

Also, this was a really great video.

Anonymous

George R. R. Martin who created the Game of Thrones universe.

Anonymous

Absolutely pleased as punch with the video - as I am with all of your work. I kept waiting for commentary on Twilight (coming so close to your Stephanie Meyer piece, I figured the monster love triangle would be brought up here) and then, as the Beauty and the Beast versions kept coming, I wondered if the Angela Carter revisions of the story would be discussed. Maybe in a future episode.

Anonymous

This comment may expose me to scorn and contempt, but while watching your video, I couldn't help but be reminded of Walerian Borowczyk's 1975 film La Bête. Borowczyk dives right into the inherent sexuality in the traditional Beauty and the Beast narrative, thus making his "erotic" fantasy an interesting addition to this genre.

Trahbox

I actually recommended that Film to her, when she askes about Fiction regarding that Subject. Still kinda sad she didn't use that. La Bete is on of my favorites, of the really weird French Things of the 70's.

Gabe

Lindsay, great video! I thought the tying birth of the nation to monster movies was great, and your Blazing Saddles clip usage was hilarious! Secondary question, will we ever get to read your novel-length starscream fanfic? WIll this be a patreon perk?

Anonymous

There's a Spanish performer, Alaska, who is the very embodiment of this trope. Even if you don't speak Spanish, I think you'll be able to get the idea from the imagery. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s82sL-oZGk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s82sL-oZGk</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yinR3tV_eU" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yinR3tV_eU</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMr83RdYMo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMr83RdYMo</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_SL5aDN14" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_SL5aDN14</a>