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Extended Play Lounge Episode 25 POLL (Patreon)

Published:
2022-07-25 16:03:41
Imported:
2023-05

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After we overwhelmingly decided to NOT include Dream Theater in this first episode of our 2nd year, we spent quite a bit of time pondering which direction to go for the poll for this episode. We thought of simply putting the top five vote-getters from our Discord Recommendations and Master List against each other. But, what we ended up deciding to do is to include a Poll of recent 'runners-up'.

This is a poll that features albums and artists that have come in 2nd...and we're giving them all a second chance, as they go up against each other. Here are your options...please choose your favorite that you want me to listen to.

From the Episode 24 Poll: Camel - The Snow Goose
- I've only heard Rhyader and Rhayader Goes to Town

(Ziggy Stardust was 2nd in the Ep. 23 Poll)

(The Moody Blues (Ep. 22) was a Doug's Choice)

From the Episode 21 Poll: Haken - Aquarius
- I haven't heard anything from this album

From the Episode 20 Poll: Rush - Permanent Waves
- I haven't heard anything from this album

From the Episode 19 Poll: David Gilmour - David Gilmour
- I haven't heard anything from this album

(Neal Morse Band (Ep. 18) was a Doug's Choice)

(Neal Morse was 2nd in the Ep. 17 Poll)

(Neal Morse was 2nd in the Ep. 16 Poll)

(I'm skipping over another Ayreon album from the Ep. 15 poll, as that poll was exclusively for Ayreon albums.)

Ep. 14 Poll was exclusively Led Zeppelin, and I'm including Physical Graffiti based on community feedback.
- Kashmir is the only song title that is familiar to me.

These choices are varied, but I'm looking forward to see how it goes. I'm very interested in all these choices. Voting will go through Friday July 29. Happy voting!

Comments

bobj

Dr. Doug’s sharing of what he knows about music enriches all of us and we should be thankful for his knowledge. He caught my attention because he was breaking down some of my favorite music, so I eventually joined his Patreon. I also have found new music through his musical choices, regardless of where they come from. We need to respect him for starting a community of music loving people, because it’s what he loves. He doesn’t have to have these polls to let us in on his decision making, but he does. He wants all of us to be as much a part of this community as you can, to be more interactive and get as much out of the experience as possible. Bravo, Dr. Doug.

bobj

With all of that said, 4 of of the 5 choices here, I am very familiar with, but I’m picking the band I have heard and know the least of, Haken. Stay hungry and keep learning. Rock on, y’all!

Arrow2theACL

Weird you had to split that message up because it kept getting deleted. Maybe it was because it was too long in a single post. Maybe it could also be a conspiracy by the negative police. We can't be having a message that makes that much sense. Agreed 100% with everything you said, and not just because you voted for Haken. :)

DJ Marquis Marc Rambeau du Tacoma

Interesting argument between Marcelo and Einaras above. I side decidedly with Einaras. In my case, I discovered Fragile in 1975; The Yes Album and Close To The Edge the following year. I gave up on them when Bill Bruford left, and for the same reason as he. 90125 came out in 1980, with Trevor Rabin replacing Steve Howe and somebody else replacing Jon Anderson. The album was okay for 1980 (which isn't saying much). I discovered both The Who's Who's Next and Deep Purple's Machine Gun next to a trash bin at my apartment complex in 4th grade, soon after they were released. Both of those albums are their respective band's finest efforts. And yet, my good people, I would never dare to put forth the proposition that Physical Graffiti is somehow less representative of Led Zeppelin any more than the Yardbird's excellent cover of Howlin' Wolf's explosive Smokestack Lightning, where Page has introduced the bassline for How Many More Times from their first album. I started with Led Zep II, then IV, then I, then III, then Houses, then PG, then Presence, then In Through The Out Door and finally Coda - pretty much as they were released. And I've seen Song Remains the Same a dozen times at the midnight movies in the 80s. III and Presence are an acquired taste, except for probably their finest blues song ever: Since I've Been Loving You. In Through The Outdoor is just awful, IMHO. If Marcelo has a point to make, make it with this album. Or Coda - with a couple of okay leftover tracks. Somebody mentioned above that no-one here is a rock historian. (Somebody did say that, didn't they?) Well, I kind of am, in an amateurish way, I know. If you're interested, please visit my Pop Rock and Rap Music of the late 20th century Appreciation Channel (with close to 200 videos and 100,000 views in a year and a half since I started it. Yay!) YouTube Channel: SPLIT IMAGE 137

DJ Marquis Marc Rambeau du Tacoma

Oh, and by the way, Thank you Doug! I discovered your channel when you posted the most excellent Close To The Edge and came back to see side 1 of Dark Side Of The Moon. I joined your Patreon this month as a result. This is my very first contribution to your discussions. May I prove wiser than my already advanced years will allow. ;)

Ray Sincere

Rush is ahead by A LOT. Surprising just how much.

DJ Marquis Marc Rambeau du Tacoma
>>88445747

I wonder if that's because the people (seems to me at least, at first glace) on this board are fairly skewed to Prog-Metal? Maybe I'm wrong here. How would you guys (how many gals among you?) describe your tastes in general as a group, if it's even possible? I'm wondering because I'm kind of figuring out where I might fit in here. My love is rooted in the Blues, and most everything I truly love springs from this well. I appreciate other types of music (say classical, reggae, jazz, and maybe even a drop of country or opera) more for their influence on rock music than in and of themselves, with a few notable exceptions. My basic thesis: The best rock music is what my schizophrenic friend remarked when he once walked into my room: "Vietnam Music!" When I thought about it, I realized he was right: check out the pop and rock music of 1966-1975, and I submit that the music prior was merely prelude, and what followed was the denouement. Right? (No spell checker here?) There was a last gasp with a "slight return" (to quote Hendrix) with grunge and industrial in the 90s. Most everything since the flowering during the turbulence of the Vietnam PROTESTS of that period are elaborations of the original impetus, which really traces back to the field-hollers, call-and-response, of the slaves of the Southern plantations. That's how real Blues-rooted music is: stripped to what keeps (some of) us alive. It's that important, and the sap runs from this primary root to the furthest branches of what can still be considered "rock music," in all it's manifestations, as the new artists always grow up assimilating earlier artists as well as current and/or personal events. Anyway, that's what I think. Sad to say, our current political situation, the world over, is in the process of unravelling, right? Mass migration, starvation, famine, and worse are to come. But maybe, just maybe, we'll get some good music again out of this turmoil. One can only hope, right? Right? I can't think of anything else worthy that came out of our Vietnam (my war, if you will) experience except the music and the fact that a large portion of the American public finally woke up to the fact that their government will lie to them. "They think that your [JFK, I believe] early ending was all wrong - for the most part they're right - but look how they all got strong - That's why I say 'Hey man, nice shot - what a nice shot man'..." - Filter, Hey Man Nice Shot, written by Richard Patrick shortly after Oliver Stone's movie JFK was released in 1991. But I digress, as is my wont. (It's gettin' late, too, and I'm a ramblin' kind of guy... ramblin' on and on...) I suppose Dr. Doug is our conductor here, so maybe he can elucidate. (Or perhaps he already has, as I haven't watched his Introduction to his Patreon Channel video yet. If so, please disregard.)

Anonymous

Hi Mark, liking the cut of your ramblin' jib :-). For my play list covering the music era you call 'Vietnam', I went for a quote from Joni Mitchell: needles, guns & grass. I could equally have gone for the previous line 'acid, booze and ass'. I'm not a great fan of Metal or Prog-Metal (I don't like Rush or Dream Theatre: they are very talented musicians who produced very high quality music but I just don't subjectively enjoying listening to them or other of the same ilk), as I prefer: blues inspired Hard Rock (Led-Zepp, Cream, Hendrix, Ten Years After, The Stones, Free, Deep Purple, The Doors, Robert Cray, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Joe Bonamassa); Prog Rock (Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Camel, Van Der Graaf Generator); Singer-Songwriter (Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel, James Taylor, Jackson Browne, Cross, Stills and Nash, Neil Young, John Martyn, Richard Thompson, Roy Harper, Nick Drake); and bands like The Beatles, The Band and Grateful Dead. I also like some art rock/new wave acts like The Velvet Underground, Lou Reed, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Brian Eno, and Talking Heads. In addition to, for want of a better phrase, 'Rock Music' I love Classical Music and Jazz. So, after ramblin' on for far too long, there is at least one other person who has similar tastes to your good self.

bobj
>>88428188

Hey Mark, this is in response to the question you posed to me after reading one of my comments. I’m answering here, because it wouldn’t let me respond directly to your response. So, It’s clear to me that my comment pushed a specific button for you to ask this type of question. Which (to me), it’s obvious that my comment is also the answer to your question. To have a bit of fun and illustrate this, I will rewrite my comment by substituting the word “music” for “art”, because (of course) musicians are, in fact, artists. See below… ANSWER: I think all of these comments only prove that there are many forms of art, because we are many different people. We all may think we know why art is good or bad, but we only know what kind of art makes the difference for each of us. It’s personal. It’s what we feel when we see all kinds of art. The artists are feeling it too when they create it and you may not even feel it the same way as they did while they were crafting it. A final note…music/art exists only because someone felt compelled to create. It’s about the process and having that touch someone else is a bonus. Depending on the level of that determines its value. I see value as a side effect of creating. The feeling of creating is king!

DJ Marquis Marc Rambeau du Tacoma
>>88393267

[I have to answer here, 'cause there's no reply button for me on your message.] Hey Bobj. To be quite honest with you, you didn't push any of my buttons. It's just that I'm a big fan of Robert Pirsig's book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance," a book, btw, that made it into the Guiness Book of World Records as a best-seller that was turned down by 130+ publishers in the 1970s. His companion book, "Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals," from the 90s, was on the short list for the Nobel Prize in Literature. Pirsig has many interesting ideas. Anyway, his Zen book (subtitle: "An Inquiry Into Values") spends a great portion of his book discussing just this very question. (I could tell you his answer, but that would ruin everything!) Yeah... my comment was just a one-off. It's a valid question in all the arts, and when I read your comments, this is the idea that came to me. Take care.

Allen

"Sad to say, our current political situation, the world over, is in the process of unravelling, right? Mass migration, starvation, famine, and worse are to come."

Allen

"There is nothing new under the sun. . . ."

Donald Gheen

Time to listen to The Wall on extended play lounge.