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It's hard to believe, but the time has finally come, for Sony hasn't only shown PlayStation 5 games galore, but PlayStation 5 itself. That's right: The box. Now that we know what the console actually looks like, it's time to discuss its aesthetic. But more importantly, it's time to discuss the titles that will run on the machine. From first party to second party to third party, Sony brought out some of big guns, and there's much to chat about. A new Horizon? A new Gran Turismo? A new Ratchet & Clank? Yes, yes, yes... and even that Demon's Souls remake that's been long-rumored? That's also real. We've got a ton of games to sort through, so let's get into it. (Plus, we parse through all of the week's other news, too, so fear not.) These are exciting times! Let's embrace 'em.

Timestamps:

0:00:17 - Intro.
0:03:02 - Will there ever be a video version of Sacred Symbols?
0:06:03 - Yet another frustrating food-related question.
0:07:54 - What have we been playing?
0:11:57 - Our thoughts on the PS5 event, the box, etc.
0:27:07 - Grand Theft Auto V is coming to PS5 with enhancements in 2021.
0:32:08 - Guerrilla reveals Horizon: Forbidden West for PS5.
0:36:28 - Insomniac reveals Spider-Man: Miles Morales for PS5.
0:43:10 - Insomniac reveals Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart for PS5.
0:46:22 - Polyphony Digital reveals Gran Turismo 7 for PS5.
0:50:56 - Housemarque reveals Returnal for PS5.
0:57:28 - Square Enix reveals Project Athia for PS5.
0:59:55 - Capcom reveals Resident Evil 8: Village for PS5.
1:01:57 - Arkane shows more of Deathloop for PS5.
1:04:43 - IO Interactive reveals Hitman 3 for PS5.
1:06:26 - Capcom reveals Pragmata for PS5.
1:08:36 - Sumo Digital reveals Sackboy: A Big Adventure for PS5.
1:11:50 - Sony reveals Astro’s Playroom for PS5.
1:13:42 - Young Horses reveals Bugsnax for PS5.
1:15:22 - Tango Gameworks shows more of Ghostwire Tokyo for PS5.
1:17:33 - Gearbox shows more of Godfall for PS5.
1:19:19 - Oddworld Inhabitants reveals Oddworld: Soulstorm for PS5.
1:23:15 - 2K Sports reveals NBA 2K21 for PS5.
1:23:46 - Ember Labs reveals Kena: Bridge of Spirits for PS5.
1:25:55 - Heart Machine reveals Solar Ash for PS5.
1:27:05 - Lucid Games reveals Destruction All-Stars for PS5.
1:29:40 - BlueTwelve reveals Stray for PS5.
1:31:43 - KO_OP reveals Goodbye Volcano High for PS5.
1:33:07 - Superbrothers reveals Jett: The Far Shore for PS5.
1:35:31 - So... how did Sony do?
1:38:36 - Destiny 2 is getting new expansions through 2022.
1:46:52 - The Last of Us: Part II has extensive accessibility options.
1:55:04 - A profile on Neil Druckman in GQ reveals new Naughty Dog-related details.
2:00:25 - Some Japanese games get new sales figures.
2:01:14 - Riot Games' Valorant is being tested for consoles.
2:07:02 - Sony Europe must pay $3.5 million to settle consumer complaints in Australia.
2:12:52 - Sony has revealed the best-selling games on PSN for May 2020.
2:14:25 - A trio of PS4 games are getting cross-platform play.
2:16:15 - More games industry events have been delayed.
2:17:21 - Minor game announcements and release date information.
2:19:53 - This week's new releases for PS4, PS Vita, and PSVR.
2:26:14 - Has Chris ever tried Overwatch?
2:29:36 - What's the difference between first party, second party, and third party games?
2:32:05 - How do we feel about buying Trophies with in-game currency?
2:35:04 - Persona 4: Golden is no longer a Vita exclusive. Does it matter?
2:37:59 - More chatter about "Games as a Service".
2:40:45 - Is Ghost of Tsushima's lack of preview coverage a good thing?

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Anonymous

Man I'm so excited to listen to this. What an awesome day.

Andrew

wtf, it isn't 9 o clock pacific standard time yet

M0RR1S9

Hey Colin! I'm ready to get my next gen panini maker

Anonymous

Looks so good!

Khyle Claeys

Never pressed play faster in my life, thank you boys

Anonymous

Yooooo. Early niceee. Just what I need to relax to after I worked all day on r/PS5. So many posts!

Captain Canada

Very impressed by the box. Can't wait to buy one at launch!

Anonymous

I personally loved the show and love the look of the console. I’m glad they went for something unique

Frank G.

I needed a smoke after dat muthafucken conference. Ratchet & Clank FTW

Marco Maluf

I really liked the design, but i hope there is a black or grey version of it. I have a white ps4 and it is a pain to clean it. 😓

Anonymous

Farming Simulator 2021, can't wait!!

Jeremy Miller

Does anyone else not have space on their media setups to have a console that goes upright. Seems like a real oversight not to have a console that at least has the option to lie flat.

Hose A Contra Razz

Ok, like it, cool event but the Spiderman was my 2nd fave but I feel it’s a DLC to the PS4 game. Horizon was my favorite one, i feel they are going towards the Zelda feel , go anywhere climb anything

Warped

Playstation knocked it out of the park! We still have Last of us, ghost, PS5 launch and a new Spiderman this year

Cameron Sanderson

I think the Spider-Man: Miles Morales for PS5 will be like what Infamous First Light was for Infamous Second Son. A stand alone expansion, or extended expansion of sorts. I'll be very surprised if full game like the first. Either way I'm still excited for it.

Anonymous

Project Athia reminded me of the unreal 5 tech demo and even though Ethan says “Chris” in the RE8 trailer, he looked and sounded like Carlos, so maybe that’s why he looks weird.

Michal Dudic

Returnal is very clearly a roguelike and procedural level generation was heavily implied. This might be a good 3D Enter the Gungeon.

John Nelson

How could you NOT talk about Demon's Souls? (EDIT: Apparently you do, it's just not in the time stamp. Can someone tell me where it is?)

KomakiKhaos

Woke up to the best thing ever. Ps5 reveal episode

Daniel Boyer

Thanks for putting this out asap!

Zibi Majewski

I think the PS5 looks sexy as fuck. Very sleek, futuristic design. Fuck the Memes, I dig it. ♥

Erk-Prime

RE8, the 3D Plus headset, digital edition of PS5 is all I wanted from the reveal- do I wait or be a first adopter???

Anonymous

Horizon: Forbidden West and Spider-Man: Miles Morales are what I was most excited to see. The showing of games though, a lot of them grabbed my attention and will definitely keep an eye on. Now I have to ask myself if I want to stay with the traditional disc drive or if I wanna go all digital. The price is going to drive a big part of that decision for me j think.

The Late Nate

Spiderman Miles Morales looks awesome, really only thing that excited me was that, I found most game announcements underwhelming, not much for me at the event game wise. I still haven't played the first Horizon and I hate the Souls games so only one of the big announcements hit for me (don't care for Ratchet either). And I'll be the one to say it because most here seem to be positive, the PS5 looks like the fake renders of the Xbox 720 and PS4 back in 2010 l, and I really don't like it, it just doesn't look good, it kinda look like a router and no one proudly displays their router. Also the disc drive version looks really off due to the asymmetry compared with the all digital version. At this point I'm just hoping that it's not $600 because I think I'm out if it is

Philip Andersen

Seeing the webcam podcasts nowadays, most of the time audio is terrible and crackling too much because they use the Skype/Discord etc. audio ... I prefer this high quality audio version.

Bryan Finck

Oh lord, The Drop has never been this good. Please keep doing this even if the real descriptions come back.

Anonymous

Quick thing about Gran Turismo. I can see Gran Turismo Sport being a platform like Colin said but I can't see how they would do that with core GT games. Sport is more of a e sports game that can just keep going with new content and they still may do that.

Max Stahl

My...God...Chris has been compromised by the mujahideen!?

Eric Smith

Brothers....Brothers the tine has come

Jack Doheny

i love how it looks and i cant believe they out did microsoft showing off the digital edition first i will give the show a 9/10 very impressed

Brandon Soto

So long depression. 👋🏽

John

Sony clarified that the Miles Morales Spider-Man content isn’t an actual game, it’s an add-on for a Remaster of the 2018 game for the PS5. How shitty is it to show that off and then later let that information trickle out. I’m still excited for it, but makes you wonder what could be hiding in the ether of their other reveals from yesterday.

D'Ante Almo

Ratchet and Clank, Returnal, Godfall, Hitman 3, Deathloop, REsident evil 8, Horizon: Forbidden West are all day one for me. I’m on the fence about the Miles Morales expansion because I’m not buying that game again just to play that. I love the look of the console, so I’m excited for launch day.

John

Also, that Ratchet and Clank gameplay looks insanely fun, just downloaded the 2016 game and will be playing it for the first time. Hoping it has fluid movement and combat vibes of Sunset and Spider-Man. Insomniac is so good at GAMEPLAY. It’s nice to play games that are “grounded” and “gritty” and “visceral” all the time, at that same token, bring on TLOU2 next week, which is getting perfect scores from many outlets including the Colin-less IGN

Garry

When you where talking about video I was sitting there with fingers crossed lol.

Brandon Soto

Day 1 buys for Ratchet, Spider-Man, Horizon 2, & Resident Evil 8. Awesome showcase. Just wish we would’ve gotten prices / release date. Also GTA 5 shouldn’t have been here.

Anonymous

This whole conference I was actually more excited for all the new indie titles. That Annapurna HyperLightDrifter sequal looks great and much more. Resident Evil 8 was great to see too

Anonymous

Tlou reviews are out and i get to listen to what will surely be a fun episode!!!

Anonymous

Chris you madden me with your game opinions at times lol to each is own but overwatch is not only fluid and super fun but it’s one of the most polished shooters of this generation. It can be enjoyed on a very casual fun and competitive level ex. Overwatch league. Well at least you didn’t say it was “jarring” lol. But I digress great episode gentlemen

JT

I’m stoked for RE8 I think it’s gonna get super weird and I’m here for that. Might be time to finally platinum RE7 to get my hype going.

LE

Colin, there was a playroom for PS4 that was free as well. This is where the Astrobot character came from

strawhatninja

I do not like eating so I would take the pill no questions asked

Timothy Bryant

That’s how Sony do. They are notorious for doing that with their announcements. Still disappointing

Kenneth thomas

It's funny how i see the first topic is about a video version of sacred symbols. I literally came to comment to tell Colin how much I miss seeing his live reaction to stuff on video and how I would have enjoyed seeing it for the ps5 reveal

Anonymous

Man, i really enjoyed you guys making up what the games are about in The Drop this week. Legless Tim sounds like a great character in Jump King! Have you both considered doing this even if you have the game descriptions going forward? You could read the fake version and then the real one just to see how accurate you were.

Daniel Margaca

I feel if the Digital Version has a bigger price cut then I feel the Digital will sell more cause people aren’t working since Covid 19.

Anonymous

Hi Colin! Italian here, Agita is kind of an Italian word but we don’t use it the way you described (or at least where I live in northern Italy). Agitare is a verb and it means shake but also upset, excite, stimulate, and agita it the 3rd person singular form of the verb. I found fascinating the way you used it!

Kelly Perkins

In regards to the forest, I got the plat a few months ago alongside my other half. It's rough around the edges but great to play with someone else particularly trying to survive for 100 days. We did it the legit way which was sometimes challenging keeping us both alive. Lots of people use creative mode to make buildings, mansions, forts, even roller coasters akin to a shallow sims game. But who could be bothered with that! Adventuring through the caves is really fun though and it's worth giving another chance.

D'Ante Almo

Insomniac just tweeted Miles Morales is a stand-alone title. So I’m definitely picking it up.

Aaron Rossen

2 things. 1. You two making up descriptions for the new releases was hilarious. Please do that again if the opportunity is there. 2. With that game The Forest, I know some of its popularity must come from youtubers. There was a time where I saw multiple YouTube gamers play it. People like Markiplier. Even Funhaus did an episode or two not too long ago. But I don’t think that could explain the constant and current success of it. I just know that would have helped at some point.

Brett Carlson

Great first conference. Truly a great console design. This felt like the true unveiling of NEXT GENERATION. Say what you will, give it whatever arbitrary score ya want, but this was a great event because it felt like something big. Love Sony taking creative risk in hardware and software.The average consumer is going to gravitate towards this. The fact that it looks like a modem I feel is the point. It keeps it sleek and fits in with other living room technologies. Also seeing how this conference sort of signals the end of a generation i would like to celebrate 🍾 it by congratulating Naughty Dog. A 96 on Open Critic and Metacritic. That is an absolutely outrageously materpeice level score. We are talking one of the highest rated games in the history of video games........AND IT WAD A SEQUAL. PHEW, Sony on a roll.

Oliver Johnson

I’m so excited for The Last Of Us II’s accessibility options. I just played through the first game with my girlfriend so she could experience the story (broken trophies for optional conversations and shiv doors ruined my platinum run). But now with all these options, I think she will be able to play through LoU2 herself even though she’s not a gamer. As much as this game is criticized for being like a movie, it truly makes a difference in how you experience the story being the one actually playing it and I think this opens the door to so many people who only watched the first game.

Devon McCarty

Great show, guys. I upped my donation just so I could listen to it today.

Drew Sleezer

Yo! As your resident Riot nerd (I’m assuming no one else here puts as much time into League or Valorant as I) I wanted to let you know they have already confirmed a game to be coming to consoles. League of Legends: Wild Rift is a rebuilt version of League of Legends, specifically to cater to a different control style, since the traditional mouse and keyboard MOBA is impossible to emulate elsewhere. It will be launching in mobile first in 2020, and then console “coming sometime after”, according to the website. They also have a publishing arm (Riot Forge) that will be publishing games to consoles, but notes that not all games will be on all platforms.

Anonymous

One does not pilot the mako, you just keep pressing the boost button and flying willy nilly until you learn how to break all logic of gravity.

Craig Mcguire

Have you seen the size comparisons online ? It's an absolute unit of a console. I thought the show was really well done 8-8.5 Rachet and Demon Souls especially Ratchet look really great HZD was somewhat underwhelming. Interesting to see how they are getting a bit of blowback now on the lack of clarity on, when, how and where a lot of the games shown will launch.

Liam Mcnulty

Where's this Silent Hill reboot by most of the original team? *Kicks cute kitten*

Cameron O'Neill

Just a critique of the show, you guys got some information wrong in the show. Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop are PS5 console exclusives as well as a ton of other stuff. It was disheartening to hear Colin say Obviously not an exclusive, when it is. Really love the work, but maybe something in the pipeline should change to correct some of these more obvious oversights. Realize it was late in the day and a race to get content out.

Cory Hahn

I laughed so hard at Chris’ mock write up for Evan’s Remains. The absurdity of spreading someone’s ashes, after an unfortunate death from a Ping Ping ball, at Dave & Busters’ locations is hysterical! Thanks for the laugh Chris!!

bix hutch

Colin please make a video version of the podcast. Its kind of strange that the biggest PS podcast doesn’t have a video option. I think you’re underestimating how many people would want it.

Jimmy Champane

Hey guys, The Forest is a similar game to something like Subnautica. The story is there if you want to pursue it but the base building aspect is a lot of fun. Also, the AI of the natives in it is really good. They'll come up to your camp and see how much they can push you before you fight back and they'll change their tactics accordingly. There are a lot of beginner's tips videos on YouTube that are like ten minutes long and they make the onboarding process a lot easier.

LastStandMedia

I'm sure we do; it seems Dustin left it out of the timestamps. If anyone wants to give me a timestamp, I'll add it.

LastStandMedia

I'm not crazy about the design, but it really doesn't matter to me. It's about what it can do!

LastStandMedia

I speak from a place of ignorance; I don't play those games. I just think it would be nice to have that option. Gran Turismo seems like it's begging to be a platform, and not an every-few-years release.

LastStandMedia

Yeah, the new Heart Machine game looks super appealing. Much moreso than Hyper Light Drifter for me.

LastStandMedia

Good to know! Maybe I should pay more attention to it. I was disappointed with how it felt when I played it at launch.

LastStandMedia

Yeah, I have no problem with all of these accessibility options, so long as they don't get in the way of the game's vision, or for people to play it "normally."

LastStandMedia

We recorded right after the show was over; that information came out later. Nothing we can do about that, but we'll make corrections next week.

LastStandMedia

It just doesn't fit into our workflow. We're open to it, but I wouldn't count on it happening anytime soon, if ever.

Jorge Sosa

Did anyone see Digital Foundry's analysis with Chad Warden reference? Lmao.

Tony Rivera

Wow so many comments already. I’m late to the party! Colin, I’ll trumpet my horn again about a video version, but not without a suggestion. How about this: You and Chris continue recording as you do normally. Set up a Sacred Symbols channel on Twitch or use your existing CLS channel on YouTube. Perhaps set up another microphone to capture your voice for video streaming (unless you can use the same for both). Stream the podcast LIVE with Chris in all it’s unedited glory (complete with the sharts, HELLO?!’s and explosive diarrhea lol) - that way anyone who wants to watch it live or recorded can. You can continue to edit the show for audio podcasts but no additional work will be needed for the video stream. Bonus: we get to see Rush! Goodluck with the move, buddy. I am house hunting myself but I’m really excited for you. Cheers! 🍻

Maxx Lazos

I bet Playstation Studios is pushing Sackboy as a standalone game because they are probably planning on a show or movie in that universe and want to bring awareness to the character itself. I could be wrong but makes sense I think!

Anonymous

Hey Colin just joined as a patron.I have been following your work since your IGN days and liking your content more now than ever. Keep up the good work!!

Anonymous

I became a patron just to hear this episode early! You've hooked me fellas

Biv

You probably already know this, but the announcement is that all PS5 owners will get the enhanced GTA for FREE when it launches.  I assume Xbox owners will have to buy it. Not sure why you thought Horizon 2 was a surprise.  It was pretty much a lock for launch and had been for months.  I really wish you did a live react.  Instant reactions are awesome, even when watched later.  Which would be good idea for the video content that people seem to want so much.  

Biv

I'm kind of obsessed with Little Devil Inside and I'm not sure why. Also, everyone sing along...."la la la BugSnacks!" Yes, I know it's Bugsnax, but Colin kept calling it Bugs Nacks. :)

Biv

Anne-jai-nuh, not onjina, lol.

Biv

MS made the Xbox Adaptive Controller to work with PS4 as well. Sorry for the 15 posts in a row

Brandon Soto

Colin, what’s your biggest concern going forward? Not worried about price, I’ll buy it regardless. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Mine is definitely 30 FPS on most games, which still looks likely. We NEED a steady 60 FPS. PS3 games would be great too, but that’s wishful thinking..

Anonymous

Kena: Bridge of Spirits was the most pleasant surprise of the conference for me besides Spiderman

Brett Carlson

Colin very curious about your thoughts on the news that the Playstation stream broke all YouTube records as the most streamed video game event ever. To me this signals what I have been drumming for a while and thats that the playstation brand is really starting to become ubiquitous to video games in terms of average user and audience members. Songs hardwork really seems to be finally fully paying off. Not to be a fanboy, but as someone who has been with Playstation since day 1 it brings me great joy to see the brand really become something I never imagined. Leaders in narrative storytelling and big budget high brow entertainment that push the medium forward. Very excited for PS5. Hope all consol3s are homes to another generation of fantastic experiences

Anonymous

Ohhh man that was one of the best drops I've ever herd!!! Kinda want it to stay like that hahah

Empty Symbol

Petition to have the drop read like this forevermore?

hugplx

I think we're passed the point where mentioning the existence of female protagonists even makes sense. A large majority of the games shown had female protagonists, heck my fav game in the show had a female protagonist. It just feels weird to bring it up now, at this point in time. It doesn't detract or anything like that, but at this point it feels akin to saying 'This game has a male protagonist,' which feels equally as strange to me. Weird quibble aside, I really am super hyped for Kena. It's the kind of game I've been hoping for for a while, a spiritual successor to Okami (adventure game, beautiful, stylized art-style, Eastern fantasy, 'healing' the world with her magic juju and bringing it back to life etc). I just hope it's good, and if it is, I hope Sony can acquire a studio like that and encourage more games of that ilk. I don't buy the whole 'oh look, another third person adventure' Sony trope. All their games can be that and still feel unique enough to me to be valuable.

Nlindz27

Those Australian imitations were incredibly bad 😂

GameSimp

You guys should guess the game descriptions for the drop going forward lol

Anonymous

Hey C&C, Quick correction on last week's episode about "Gearbox's" Godfall. This game is not developed by Gearbox Studios but published by Gearbox Publishing. It is developed by CounterPlay Games who also made a free-to-play digital card game called duelyst. Gearbox Publishing has published some notable games, including Astroneer, Risk of Rain 2, Banner Saga Trilogy, Hello Neighbor, We Happy Few, and the physical edition of Fortnite back in the day. Thanks and please save the babies.

Jayce Tamulevich

You guys did exceptionally well with that improve drop. I don’t want the old one back.

Zibi Majewski

I don't know if it wasn't mentioned by anyone but I really like how both of you have great respect to each other when it comes to talking to one another. You never interrupt each other and always allow for full idea/opinion been spoken and only after you will chime in and bounce back and forth. So many podcasts hosts are just trying to jump in too early, break the flow or simply finish the sentence which makes for chaotic listening and awkward interactions. Keep up the pristine level of your podcast. Thank you.

NeO JD

Did you guys skip over Little Devil Inside? Don’t see it in the time stamps. Easily my favorite trailer of the presser.

Oliver Johnson

I hope there’s never a drop again. I would love to hear this inter-dimensional television style game improv every week

Edwin Garcia

I always felt people jumped into the “ Sony is in trouble “ bandwagon too soon, after this event it seems people automatically forgot about their concerns.

JT

They talk about it briefly. Seems like they are somewhat undecided on it. Other than the major exclusives that is the game I am most excited about! Looks awesome!

Anonymous

OMG, please do the drop like this every week. Fucking hilarious!

Stephen Short

Matterfall is sick. Nex Machina didn't do it for me for sure

Kenneth Oms

I am excited for The Little Devil Inside, however, the game was a Kickstarter game that is now 5 years past it’s delivery date. The backers feel betrayed because it was promised for certain consoles and it is now a “timed” exclusive. This wouldn’t be so bad if they refunded the backers that feel cheated.

Anonymous

Colin, has Sony said anything since the event regarding if the console’s labia is actually going to glow as it appears it does in the video?

Dan P

So glad CrossCode got some love. It's a really solid game and a nice throwback to the Golden Age of SNES RPGs. I was engrossed for almost all of the 47 hour playthrough (on PC). Check it out.

Anonymous

Adding video was a nice idea when you were in the same room, but being remote changes things. The show sounds very professional, shitty al queda webcam video (as Colin would say) would only serve to lower the standard of the show in my humble opinion.

Miles Williams

The console looks like a robot vagina from the front lol. Labia and all:)

Miles Williams

You're absolutely good enough to get through Demon's Souls, Colin. Those games just "click" eventually. I'm sure you experienced that with Bloodborne. Bloodborne was my first one, and I honestly hated it for the first couple hours. But since then I've done a no death run of all of them. They're honestly not as hard as everyone makes them out to be. They just demand a good amount of patience from the player. They're definitely not for everyone though. But if you can get over the learning curve, they have some of the best atmosphere, and rewarding combat in gaming. In my opinion at least.

Kyle Goodrich

Colin, so glad to hear you're interested in cross code because I was going to recommend it to you when it came to PlayStation consoles. Freaking awesome story, great puzzles, and fun combat. I think you'd love it.

LastStandMedia

We can talk more about this next episode, but I doubt it's gonna be a new version for PS5 owners; just a patch and some new content.

LastStandMedia

For the success of the console, I'm most worried about price. I think they'll get games running at 1080p60, but we'll see...

LastStandMedia

Yeah, that's fair, but pound-for-pound, not everyone handles their IP like Sony in this regard.

LastStandMedia

It just doesn't serve our show. I'm open to the idea, but we'd need to figure out exactly how it'd work.

Jeremy Miller

Ah Colin, I have to respectfully disagree with you about the game "Little Devil Inside" from what I've read it apparently takes place inside the old man's body where you play as the kid in the trailer. That Premise gives me a lot of Osmosis Jones (that cursed Bill Murray Movie) Vibes and it was certainly a lot more memorable than that generic Square Enix game and Godfall.

Dave Carsley

I definitely don't think Sony should release Spider Man (Miles Morales) on PS4. Would it be good for us consumers? Absolutely. But from a business perspective, at SOME point, you need something to actually sell your new console. And from my perspective, while the showcase indicated many good games for the future, the lineup for what's coming *at launch* looked pretty weak to me. With developers like Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Sony Bend, etc. having just blown their load -- and with Guerrilla obviously not being ready for launch -- it may very well be worth taking the large hit on software sales to try to force migration to the PS5 by having one of the best selling franchises of the last decade (from a studio you now own), exclusive to PS5. Yes, it would hurt to lose those software sales, but Insomniac can be held up financially by other parts of Sony for now, and again, at some point they will have to stop releasing games to that 110 million install base (which will hurt no matter when they do it). And as far as I can tell from the showcase, Sony has nothing even remotely close to a "system seller" coming *at launch*.... Nothing.

Pete

Hey Colin, Thanks for the nearly 3 hour episode. Fully agree with your price prediction. Even though a bluray drive might only be 20/30 bucks, I think they will knock a hundred off the price to lock people into PSN game sales where they plan to recoup those losses. Cheers. Pete

Jessica Gutiérrez

That argument sort of contradicts itself in every way possible. The people that would get it on the PS4 are not the people that are jumping right into the PS5, the people getting it on the PS5 are the people that would have waited to get it on the PS5 to begin with. It's a FAR better business decision to release it on both, the fact is that the west buys the most consoles, and in the west the US is gearing up for the worst recession/depression in it's history, people aren't going to slog out that kind of cash if they don't have to, and Sony has already stated because of Covid that they're going to have severe supply constraints. I don't know if it's the lack of public awareness or what? But there's many factories that have completely shut down and will NOT open until next year regardless of the world opening back up completely, not just factories for games but factories for everything, so it would be wise to sell a few million copies on the PS4 if it means making up for the losses the PS5 will take. They don't need system sellers, the PS4 had zero system sellers. Remember the meme's? "Greatness awaits, and waits, and still waiting". Where did they end up again this generation? Oh that's right, they tripled what their direct competitor did.

Anonymous

In regards to the video version of the podcast, I actually agree that this isn't needed. It's actually attractive that this podcast is audio only since you don't feel like you are missing something if you only listen to it. Many time in video podcasts they are showing stuff on screen or rely on gestures and facial expressions which you don't understand if you just listen to it. Keep doing you in my opinion. On another note, it was a bit disappointing that no questions and inquiries where included with the PS5 news, hope some of them are considered in the next episode. Cheers from Greece!

Damian Castillo

Here is an idea. Sell the PS5 for $499 and the Digital Edition for $399. Sony could make up the loss with the Digital Edition if they lower the price enough to motivate people to buy it. Then all the game purchases going forward are purchased on the PS Store which Sony makes a bigger cut from than if it sold at a retail store for the disc version. Does anyone think this is a good strategy?

Tyron Hay

Hey Colin! Thanks for the episode! I was wondering what you think about the digital PS5 and the idea of PlayStation essentially having a monopoly on sales through the PS store and games sales. I ask this question because here in Australia new games, say The Last of Us Part 2, cost around $100 AUD on the PS store, however if I was to buy the physical copy it’s around $70 AUD. So I feel as though there would be no reason to buy the digital version as I’ll make the more expensive cost back on cheaper physical games. Just wanted to see what you think of this, is it a similar case in the US? Thanks!!

Tony Rivera

Still loving the Easter eggs at the end of the podcasts guys. Lol God help us indeed.

Dee Han

I will go with the physical version of the PS5 as new physical games are way cheaper than digital. Example - The Last of Us 2 being $99 on the PS Store and $49 to $69 physically (not that I will be buying it).

Bryan King

One note... Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo are timed exclusive to PS5 for one year each.

Tyron Hay

Absolutely, it makes no sense to me going totally digital. I suppose unless you are already completely digital and willing to eat the addition cost for these games. But otherwise I can get the physical version of the PS5 and after 4-5 new games I've saved the equivalent of its additional cost. Plus on top of that I have a 4k blu ray drive

Daniel Schiffer

BEST DROP EVER. I would love to see something improvisational like that for SS+

Your Boi Nicky V

So just Spiderman and Godfall for AAA exclusives at launch? I could definitely see R&C and GT7 making it too, think it was pretty odd that almost none of the Sony games got a launch year. Maybe Horizon is a while off but the others are presumably this year or next. No Socom was a bummer but still a chance, I doubt Siege's director is working on Horizon.

Anonymous

I gotta imagine they don't want another Driveclub scenario, and they have around 5 months to make sure stuff like R&C and GT7 can hit launch.

Zibi Majewski

I gotta say, the way you pronounced Bugsnax (Bugsnacks) as Bugs Nax has tilted me ever so slightly, Colin. 😜

Steve Bitto

One thing I would note is that many of these were not launch titles as indicated by 2021 dates or even the lack of dates at all. I think there’s a good chance we see the Socom style game later in a launch lineup announcement probably alongside pricing and preorder info.

Sumojoe118

Thanks for the heads up on Cross Code it looks amazing!

James Clark

Not related but omfg those Knockback raps are making me cringe so hard!!!! 😂🤦🏻‍♂️😂🤦🏻‍♂️

Zack Fair

I'm blocked by Jason also lol

LastStandMedia

Thank you for your feedback! We're open to all possibilities, but I highly doubt we're gonna have a video component.

LastStandMedia

That would be nice, but that's probably way too cheap. $400 for any version of the PS5 seems unimaginable.

LastStandMedia

It's an interesting notion, but I'm not sure Sony cares. This was honestly a problem with Vita first and foremost, and it never dissuaded them from dropping prices digitally. I doubt you'll see much of a change with PS5; there's just too much capital to earn there.

LastStandMedia

You will ultimately have to determine the value of a digital product over a physical one. The market will dictate how this goes, one way or another.

LastStandMedia

It would be weird to have two Insomniac games at launch. I thought you'd get R&C at launch, but I suspect they'll go with 2021.

Simon Diff

Why take for granted that the Digital Edition will be cheaper? Having all of your games in digital form requires more SSD space, and any amount of SSD space is going to be more expensive than a disc drive... Surely Sony will make more money on purely digital purchasers, but I kinda expect the Digital Edition to be more expensive.

LastStandMedia

Didn't we say on the show that there's a distinct possibility they're the same price? I doubt digital will be more expensive. We'll see.