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Side Quest, Episode 63: Why Stadia Will (Probably) Fail (Patreon)

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2019-08-16 20:27:08
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2022-01

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A toss of the dice.

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Why Stadia Will (Probably) Fail

Internet speeds aren't your friend. At least not here. Colin's Last Stand: Side Quest is free of baked-in ads, product placement, and other obnoxious forms of advertising because of your support. Please consider subscribing to CLS' Patreon to show your support for independent content: http://www.patreon.com/colinslaststand Listen to Sacred Symbols, CLS' PlayStation podcast (also available on podcast services and here on YouTube): https://open.spotify.com/show/1GKTOA7ZhIfrxIxSR0rg25 Listen to the retro and nostalgia podcast, KnockBack (also available on podcast services): http://soundcloud.com/clsknockback Twitter: @notaxation Instagram: @clsmoriarty Facebook: /colinslaststand Colin's Last Stand is a product of Colin's Last Stand, LLC PO Box 1233 | Santa Monica, CA 90406 The following sources were used in the creation of this episode of Side Quest: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d35kbj/americans-who-dont-have-internet https://broadbandnow.com/report/2018-fcc-international-data-insights/ https://www.alternet.org/2019/04/internet-infrastructure-in-the-us-is-hopelessly-compromised-by-an-oligopolistic-telecom-industry-that-doesnt-want-your-connection-to-be-fast/ https://www.vox.com/2019/1/10/18175869/susan-crawford-fiber-book-internet-access-comcast-verizon-google-peter-kafka-media-podcast https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/31/upshot/why-the-us-has-fallen-behind-in-internet-speed-and-affordability.html https://www.businessinsider.com/why-us-internet-services-stink-2016-1? https://www.bcg.com/en-us/publications/2018/economic-case-bringing-broadband-rural-united-states.aspx https://www.speedtest.net/global-index https://killedbygoogle.com http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/04/we-know-how-isps-will-screw-us-over-they-did-it-before.html https://help.netflix.com/en/node/87 https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/6/18212742/5g-broadband-replacement-att-rural-connectivity https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-hands-on-with-google-stream-gdc-2019 https://www.pcgamer.com/au/google-stadia-has-game-developers-confused-excited-and-worried/ https://support.google.com/stadia/answer/9338946?hl=en https://www.inverse.com/article/56486-google-stadia-cloud-gaming-internet-speed-problem https://www.inverse.com/article/57318-google-stadia-isps-lags-internet-5g https://gizmodo.com/this-is-the-internet-5841710 https://gizmodo.com/why-americas-internet-is-so-shitty-and-slow-1686173744 https://www.polygon.com/2019/3/19/18272856/google-stadia-gdc-2019-announcement https://www.inverse.com/article/55688-stadia-xcloud-cloud-gaming-consoles Additionally, the following books were cited: "Fiber" by Susan Crawford "Tubes" by Andrew Blum The following videos were used, in part, in the creation of this episode of Side Quest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCQNWDEHu6U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEG3bmU_WaI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dVzLsdzmVs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2wgfgsDItM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx21mOYsb2k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUih5C5rOrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyYzfMOUvZU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLwGlIH2fGI Additional video content was supplied by Videoblocks, via license. The following sources provided still imagery: Amazon, Charter, FCC, Freebie Supply, Logodix, Plus PNG, PNG IMG, Seek Logo, Speedcheck.org, Wikimedia, and Wikipedia.

Comments

BM

Lol I had fiberoptic in 2001 in Vancouver.

Anonymous

American internet infrastructure doesn’t have the capability to support this kind of service, it limits their consumer base drastically. This is in addition to their questionable service plan and business decisions. All in all, I don’t see this being successful.

Tyler Webb

Colin this video is a perfect example of why I’m a fan. I know you are a fan of the free market and business serving their role to make money, but you don’t hold back when it comes to what is clearly an abuse of a technical monopoly. You are not blind to the issues of things you support but rather try to maintain a more nuanced opinion. There are still a few things we don’t see eye to eye on, and some day I’d like to address them, but nows not that time. Anyways keep up the great work! We love to watch you succeed.

Anonymous

My assumption is that Google agrees with you that internet infrastructures can't support Stadia, but they'd rather get into game streaming way too early rather than way too late. If they're willing to lose a lot of money over the next few years, they could have a huge technical, branding, and experience advantage over competitors when the market becomes more crowded the same way Netflix does. The only criticism I have of this video is that it focuses exclusive on the American market when Stadia will be an international product.

Tyler Webb
>>25852224

It’s not just an American issue, I think it’s just because he is an American citizen. We have tons of isp issues here in Canada as well. But for me, I don’t want it to succeed even if I think it will. It’s so profitable I’m scared ownership will fizzle away and then much like isps will abuse their power, or like Netflix every publisher will have their hand out.

Phishoto

I definitely get Ouya vibes from Stadia. Obviously stadia will offer way better games but saying it’s the next big change to gaming when not one gamer asked for this or wants it is why they’re similar imo. Will have to wait and see what actually happens though. Personally I love physical copies of games and hope they stay that way for along time.

strawhatninja

This is an excellent video, as someone who works in the IT industry I can appreciate you making people aware of how bad our internet as whole in this country actually is. I'm fortunate to live close to small internet provider that provides us with internet speeds of 100 to 300Mbps for an affordable rate and with a 2TB cap. The funny thing is the internet is affordable but the cable is insanely expensive. We have switched to streaming everything as providers like Fubotv and Youtube tv provide more channels then we got before for a far cheaper price. 2TBs of space may seem like a lot, but since we are streaming everything we end up using about 1.2TB a month. Once 4k starts becoming mainstream for sports like the NFL and the NBA I could see us hitting close to that 2TB limit.

Joseph Ady

I just got a gigabit connection, but I don't wanna pay 10 per month, buy new games, and abandon the trophy system for soemething that night not even succeed.

Anonymous

The amount of research put in for this made your reasoning sensible and practical. I think Google is out of touch with what consumers want right now. What Sony and Microsoft are doing for streaming makes sense in today's market by providing choice over restrictive practices. I'm a little disappointed Google didn't make the massive effort to put out a console. This could have created a huge base for stadia cloud gaming and bring a much needed competition element to the current big three. Thanks again for all your hard work, keep it up!

Owen

Day 1 supporter of stadia because I want it to be successful. It’s got a long road ahead of it though. Xcloud though... might be the future.

OrochiNewsTeam

If Stadia is slow being adopted, if it does fail, what does Google really lose? Not much compared to other consoles. On that same note when the now older gaming communities die and fade away from games and the children of the children now- grow up in a world where physical consoles only exsist in wiki articles. This cloud gaming is not going away. It could lay dormant for 10 years and return being the most powerful and connected way to play games over and over. Stadia might fail this next generation, but it is not going away. Gamers who don't play online typically, gamers that do not stream games, gamers that prefer single player, ect are a smaller part of the pie every year. Stadia embraces all these trendy tools In modern gaming on top of its versitilty. In 20-30 years in a world where PS4 mini could be a keychain you think console streaming will not be relevant by then. Regardless if we embrace it, you can't deny the clean ease and value of what it wants to do. It's a slick cost effective idea that doesn't burden consumers. I also don't like it btw.

Joey Finelli

We just got fibre in our city. my internet is greatness now.

LastStandMedia
>>25868171

I only keep cable for sports, at this point. If there was a good solution for the NFL in particular (there are still local and primetime blackouts, as you know), I'd cut the cord completely.

Stephen Markosky

With stadia plus set to release, if there is a consumer outcry that the current business model and infrastructure of ISP's make game streaming an impossibility for most, will google lead the charge and change the way the US handles internet service or will they drop it as a failed venture?