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Colin's Last Stand, Episode 33: HBO's Confederate, Amazon's Black America & Professional Outrage (Patreon)

Published:
2017-08-03 18:08:16
Edited:
2018-03-17 07:06:09
Imported:
2022-01

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It's fiction. It won't hurt you. Promise.

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HBO's Confederate, Amazon's Black America & Professional Outrage -- Colin's Last Stand (Episode 33)

HBO recently announced a new show called Confederate. It's an alternate history tale where the American north and south remain split apart, and slavery is still legal. It sounds like a tantalizing story. But don't tell that to the Professionally Outraged, who are more interested in censoring fiction than living in the real world. (And then there's Black America...) Colin's Last Stand is free of baked-in ads, product placement, and other obnoxious forms of advertising because of your support. Please consider subscribing to CLS' Patreon to show your support for independent historical and political content: http://www.patreon.com/colinslaststand Twitter: @notaxation Instagram: @clsmoriarty Facebook: /colinslaststand Reddit: /r/ColinsLastStand Colin's Last Stand is a product of Colin's Last Stand, LLC PO Box 1233 | Santa Monica, CA 90406 Still images in this video were acquired from the following sources, for which Colin's Last Stand is thankful: Airships.net, Amazon, Bloody Disgusting, Cliparting, Fanart.tv, Flickr, Huffington Post, imgflip, KUNC, Pinterest,The Kansas City Star, Slash Film, Variety, Wikia, Wikimedia, and Wikipedia. Bibliography/Reading List: https://medium.com/hbo-cinemax-pr/hbo-announces-confederate-a-new-drama-series-created-by-david-benioff-and-d-b-weiss-31e5d4e705bb http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/08/01/amazon_announces_black_america_an_alt_civil_war_history_series_from_will.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/adriennegibbs/2017/07/31/the-push-to-cancel-hbos-new-confederate-series-grows/#3575ed02615c http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/31/entertainment/hbo-confederate/index.html http://www.vogue.com/article/hbo-confederate-backlash http://observer.com/2017/07/hbo-underground-not-confederate-shows/ https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/35104/ http://buzz.blog.ajc.com/2017/07/31/critics-demand-hbo-scrap-plans-for-confederate-series/ http://www.krmg.com/news/hbo-confederate-facing-backlash-critics-call-for-cancellation/AqUzzx6BEYsQ1clH2b0qGP/ http://www.cracked.com/video_20553_why-this-confederate-show-maybe-very-terrible-idea.html https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/25/nazi-inspired-ads-for-the-man-in-the-high-castle-pulled-from-new-york-subway http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/slavery-abolished-in-america https://www.themarysue.com/confederate-not-a-great-idea/ http://www.spin.com/2017/08/aaron-mcgruder-black-america/ https://mic.com/articles/183193/amazon-announces-show-about-post-reparations-america-amid-backlash-to-hbos-confederate#.yeoFLTWQp

Comments

Steven Camilo

*pulls up a chair* Oh dis gon' be gud.

Christopher Lee

Great episode! Can't wait for ibtimes and polygon's write up of this 😂. Quick sidenote, my FAVORITE tweet I read was someone saying "Confederate is horrible! This would be like someone making a show about the nazis winning WWII!!" And then like.... hundreds of responses all informing her of The man in the high castle 😂

ScKeptiC17

Great episode - the SJWs out there will all be secretly watching both shows when they air to further add to their hypocritical viewpoints.

Aaron

The sound has found its way to perfection, well done!

Anonymous

Didn't know about these two shows. Probably because I deleted my Twitter. The outcry is not the slightest bit surprising though. The virtue signaling is strong with some. Great audio quality BTW.

James Little

Loved this video. I was called a "fake black profile" on twitter because i thought all this drama about Confederate was dumb

BettyAnn Moriarty

I'm excited to see the alternate history and what the bent will be in each. It fascinates me- forces me think deeper about - well - everything. Can't wait. And the hoopla over fiction=ridiculous, in my opinion anyway. There are so many other 'realities' to worry about....

Brian Fuller

The outrage regarding the shows element on slavery is perplexing. The description that HBO put out to detail the show's plot paints an undertone for the show that because the south was not defeated things are topsy-turvy. Shouldn't that help the reader of the description understand that we are going to explore these concepts, including the shows element on slavery, from a point of view that many of the things we see as good or bad coming out of the civil war will be ratcheted up instead of resolved or improved? Meaning there was no condoning of slavery or racism in the description, and I actually read the description as this horrible thing from history could have persisted if a few things had gone the other way for either side. We don't know what the show is going to be about, but I am certain that there is zero intention of having viewers walk away from the show with an affinity for slavery. HBO makes really smart and popular shows. They don't want to make a show that aims to alienate. Just look at their other major hits. Other than the Sopranos HBO's content is very diverse (Vice, GOT, Ballers, boxing, Insecure, The Night Of, The Wire, and I could go on and on). HBO has the most diverse casts and content. More than any other major content provider. Compare to Netflix, Hulu, and any major network's line up.

Chad Lewis (edited)

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2024-01-30 02:47:54 スク水越しでもこの指の沈み込むやわらかさ、吸い心地もよさそうですしぷっくり乳首が浮き上がってるのもいい・・・ 下乳あたりやくびれのしわになってる部分やぴっちり具合もなおよくて確実にレベルアップしていて立ち姿眺めてるだけでもいいですね 影だけなのもエロく口をあけて感じまくってるのがわかりますね、のけぞってるのもたまりませぬ
2017-08-04 03:26:03 Hey Colin! Looking forward to both these shows as well. Quick question: one thing missing from the new shot is the white board with the quote. We liked reading those relevant quotes. Any plan to bring that back?

Hey Colin! Looking forward to both these shows as well. Quick question: one thing missing from the new shot is the white board with the quote. We liked reading those relevant quotes. Any plan to bring that back?

Anonymous

Awesome show!!! I love ranting Colin.

LastStandMedia
>>6495859

I agree in the sense that HBO won't care one way or another who's watching, so long as they're watching. I suspect both shows will be big, including Amazon's foray.

LastStandMedia
>>6503094

There's truly no explaining their stance, at the end of the day. People are consistently and constantly seeking something to upset over and offended by. It's an incessant search.

LastStandMedia
>>6504314

I hadn't even thought of that, to be honest. Lemme see what I can do in the near future.

LastStandMedia

I hear you, although I'd say that you could probably have it both ways, no? =D Then again, I can barely find time to fit in video games. It's all reading and TV shows for me (and much more the former than the latter). So I see where you're coming from, ultimately.

Arvel Crynyd

Great, great episode. I honestly have no idea why there is so much organized outcry (sometimes I have the feeling that there are a lot of social bots being created for the sole purpose of expanding the sole outcry of a single person in order to "fake/create" a movement solely based around a single hashtag) over a 82-word preview for a TV show that is going to be on HBO in ... probably 2 years or so? Well... on to more pressing matters... why is there a THIRD civil war... right? My current guess is the following: Imagine the end of the "first" civil war and the creation of two seperate United States (I will now introduce the terms the "North" and the "South" here for abbreviation). Extrapolating into the future, the next big (military) milestone in world history is World War I, which the "real" US entered in 1917. My guess would be, that one of the two countries (with high likelihood the North) will enter the war and try to help the Triple Entente (i.e. England, France, Russia) against the Central forces in Europe around the German Empire. At that time, while the North is shipping their troops to help in the front in France, the South suddenly makes an alliance with Germany and attacks the more or less vulnerable North as their troops are on their way to Europe, thus starting the second civil war. It could lead to a scenario where the German Empire wins the Great War (as a result, there will be no Weimar Republic and no rise of Hitler that will end up in WW2) and at some point the CW2 ends. Then, it's quite interesting where the show will start. Will it jump to a alt-50s or 60s scenario or a major jump to alt-2019 (assuming that's the airdate). Both premises, of this and of Black America sound awesome to me. But I wonder, why no one thought of another alternate history scenario pitch... What about Britain won the American revolution... I think the Twitter outcry would be tremendous :-)

Nicole Webb

I just love your approach to these unnecessarily controversial topics. Thanks as always for the level head. :-)

Stephen J Seidler

You make very fair points about those who openly, or otherwise, seek to shut down freedom of expression. That is wrong, full stop, and I will advocate for this or any other art-form's right to exist. All that matters to me is my right, in turn, to question the quality, themes or execution of said art at my discretion. Free Speech is never un-contested speech, and those who don't believe there's any harm in how "Confederate" may play out may not hush *me* to silence for disagreeing. My concern about "Confederate" (which may prove unfounded or valid) is that, in the current political climate, a show like this, if done insensitively, may have a similar societal effect as did DeMille's "Birth of a Nation", which fictionalized the "heroic" aspects of the Ku Klux Klan in its narrative, and also had the effect of inspiring a major resurgence of the *real* KKK, who caused real harm and cost many people their real lives for decades afterwards. Life can imitate art under the right conditions, and in the current environment, where many feel the need to re-evaluate whether Black people do or ever have contributed positively to America outside of slavery, those conditions may be at hand. I will, for now, treat HBO's "Confederate" as I have always treated the actual Confederate Flag: I never have and will never endorse banning it, but I will also never go where it's shown & will advise anyone I know not to do so. Free Speech all around.

Ryan Berry

I'm of the mind that, if this show offends you, makes you feel fear, angers you...it's FUCKING SUPPOSED TO. It's a COMMENTARY on racism to EXAGGERATE its evils by making the issues more prevalent and relatable. Trying to censor this actually keeps the populous numb to racism

Stephen J Seidler
>>6506658

I will say that, despite the concerns I have written about here concerning how "Confederate", and the response to it, might play out, I do find the speculative history in both it and Black America to be fascinating. Regarding "Confederate", your theories about what led to the "second civil war" seem very likely, with a global view worthy of Turtledove. What I don't quite understand is how slavery would continue into even the second half of the 20th century, much less 2019. It was, at core a means to acquire the cheapest manual labor when such a thing needed to be in high demand. But even in real history, the Industrial Revolution would have drastically reduced this need, and done so I think mostly by the 1890's or 1900's at the latest. After which, I do fear, most slaves would have been deported back to Africa or, a possibly worse outcome; genocide of people no longer needed as labor but also never to be made citizens in a Confederate nation. Perhaps the show will decide to take the term "wage slaves" to a literal extent, with people in perpetual indentured servitude even in white collar jobs, based on race or other stratification. As for Black America, the biggest question I have about its premise would be: how did former slaves ever manage to negotiate reparations of any kind, much less for a lot of very valuable land sufficient to found a completely separate nation? In the history we know, Jim Crow occurred largely because former slaves didn't generally have that kind of leverage or bargaining power; they were mostly migrating north to avoid the worst effects of attempts to nullify the reconstruction amendments. It's fascinating. A bit concerning still, but fascinating.

Tom Koch

Where the hell was this outrage when Man in the High Castle came out. A fiction story that if it did happen probably meant that every single person of Jewish desent was wiped off the map. Now I love Man in the High Castle

Anonymous
>>6505333

I suppose ranting would be the wrong term here, to specify It shows in this video that you feel strongly about the opinion your sharing with us and I've always enjoyed this side of you.