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First entry into a new series on paranoid cinema, and I'm joined by Dmitri (@drposhlost) of Subliminal Jihad to discuss the Sicario films, Sicario (2015) and Sicario: Day of the Soldado (2018). We go through the plots of each film and discuss how they might function as a limited hangout. Among various topics, we talk about Taylor Sheridan (not trashing the man) and the nature of screenwriting. 

Then we discuss the broader Mexican drug war. We talk about the banks, McCoy and Peter Dale Scott, plane crashes and container ships, and then compared the Sicario films to the analysis provided by the book Los Carteles No Existen (The Cartels Do Not Exist) by Oswaldo Zavala, before arriving at the dark truth about the drug war in Mexico.

Songs:

Ghost Dope by Juicy J

Sanguinarios del M1 by El Movimiento Alterado

Push It to the Limit by Paul Engemann

La Granja by Los Tigres del Norte


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bwen

Producers have way too much say in crafting screenplays. I used to blame the screenwriter too. But the industry is dominated by producer input.

laihall

Its fucking nutty and sus that sheridian lived in a Lakota community and went on to write native people the way he did in wind river and hell or high water lol

laihall

Awesome ep, Sicario was the first piece of media i encountered that dealt with parapolitical themes and sent me on the path to learn about iran contra etc

every man a kong

just ordered the oswaldo zavala book for my peruvian immigrant freind who works full time as an organiser in the migrant community. so he can explain it to me. and others. thanks!

Anonymous

Fuck me, four hours. I know what im doing at work today.

Jonathan Smith

Watching Sicario rn before listening, losing my mind that it starts in Phoenix, of all places.

laihall

@jimmy its hard to say because the low bar is like no native peoole ever which is its own issue but i probably would have enjoyed hell or high water more if there wasnt the native prop characters that just seem to be there to take abuse from their white peers - obviously reality is reflected there somewhat but its just vacuous and hollow. The impression i got was that it was for the prestige of representation but lacked any of the creativity or inquiry a ~*neo western*~ kind of implies. Wind river is definitely better in thst the situation in portrays is common across north and south america, i just cant get over the “death face” scene at the end when there wasnt any other mention of that aspect of peoples life throughout. Just feels weird, voyeuristic, and exoticizing. I feel like he heard about death paint once and then just sat on it until he could shoehorn it into a screenplay, same with thar “enemy of everyone” anecdote

ProgrammedToChill

yeah I hear that. I haven't seen Wind River yet, but I can imagine. it doesn't seem like many things get it right. I'd be curious to hear what movies ever do, if any

laihall

There are definitly worse examples and i think i understand what he was going for in wind river but stuff like that just isnt meant to be written about and portrayed out of context - ill have to dig it up but there is an amazing 19th century photo from Kainai of a medicine person lunging at a photographer for trying to capture a ceremomy. I think movies that are embraced by or created by indigenous people try to convey their nations values and worldview moreso than special cultural facts or depictions. Embrace of the Serpent is a really good movie for capturing non western narrative structures, SGaawaay K’unna [the Edge of the Knife] is incredible, there are a few docs on the national film board of Canada that are solid too. Circle of the sun is controversial for these topics but is worth watching. In literature id highly recommend stephen graham jones, mapping the interior in particular and entering time by colin browne (even though hes white haha)

The Cheerful Comrade

What a treat! Jimmy I would love to hear you flesh out your thoughts about the conspiracy and the deep in service to the mainstream. I feel you were close to a really insightful breakthrough, but needed to mull it around a little more.😊Always great to have Dimitri, loved the part about Hollywood and (podcastings) unspoken rules. Stay blessed all!

Shoe Manghorn

Props to Villeneuve for shooting Mexico in a normal palette and shooting Toronto in the most sickening yellow in Enemy