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Incheonguy

Thank you for this. I appreciate you. Thank you for your consistent love and support of ITZY.

Incheonguy

They did "The birth Cheshire and then Sneakers all in one stage, I don't know why Mama split it up on YT. Actually I do know, they want to see which gets more views and actually double their views for ITZY, if they put both in ONE video they get just a single view for the entire thing, but if they split the songs they get 2 views (one for each) and views are coin right?

Incheonguy

I replied to your tweet, the ITZY hate train was started and driven by MYs who have too much time on their hands. That was exposed by some multistans that shows the Twitter DMs from large SM and Aespa fan accounts that instructed them on how to create 'midzy personas' to retweet and like ITZY content for days or weeks before their comebacks and then to say a compliment and then trash the songs. They started in Loco but it didn't take off, they got a lot of traction during Sneakers (from English SNS) yet that song charted well and the album sold over a million. As will Chesshire (already it beat Checkmate 1st week sales by over 160k). So no matter what they do they can't stop ITZY from growing their fanbase, nor their sales. So just block those toxic accounts. You are right about young Kpop fans following popular trends. If it is popular to trash something or they think it is, they will follow along. They get convinced those accounts were real fans and they think "OH the fandom says I am supposed to not like this, okay so I wont" Instead of enjoy their groups successes they have to also hope for negative results for everyone else. Sorry to rant on in this comment, but I wanted to respond to your keen observation as to the current state of Kpop stans on twitter.. They do the same thing in comments on Instagram, Tiktok, and YT. It's sad.

ghost

I really love Itzy stages! MAMA last year really made me interested in seeing them live. Some groups I just love the music and others I feel like have to be experienced live. Itzy has the charisma and stage mastery its so fun to watch. For the hate they get... The only explanation I can come up with is like the difference in style and presentation for early 4th gen like itzy and (g)i-dle still feels like early 4th gen, and new 4th gen like new jeans and NMIXX is a little different in sounds and presentation all around. And some people think if something isnt new and shiny its bad. They just aren't the new trendy group to like anymore and people take that opportunity to dogpile to make the new stuff seem better in comparison, when its honestly just up to taste and a changing industry. Itzy is as good as they have always been (i think better than ever) I bet in 3 years it will be popular to tear down the groups that are debuting this year.

Incheonguy

18-24 months is the traditional timeline that new groups get a pass and are universally loved. After that they must put out good content and music. ITZY's albums outsell the previous one every time so they are fine. The groups that debuted late 2020 and early 2021 are feeling that drop now. The groups that prove to have longevity are the ones that grow their fanbase and their sales.