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Goldfinger Reaction! (Patreon)

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2019-08-02 11:32:50
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Ryan

This one worked out quite well, as not only is it a popular choice for the best film of the series, but the rest of Connery's films follow a loose story arc around the evil spy organization SPECTRE and their leader Blofeld, so this is the only one besides the first you're able to go into completely cold with no problems. It's actually kind of cool they were able to trust the audience to follow it in those days long before the Internet made these kinds of long-running stories easier to pull off.

Ian Smith

Loved the sixties lipstick! This is a shamelessly enjoyable film - hugely influential,very much of it's era,and probably best enjoyed in the company of an alpha male

Opti_Frog

James Bond, the og fuckboi. Loved your real talk.

Dave Ford
>>25357902

I voted for You Only Live Twice - I'm not sure that not seeing From Russia With Love would have been a handicap. Even with out the previous films, Dr Evil's build up is strong enough in that movie alone for it to work perfectly well. In terms of the overall Bond-iness of the movies, I think it's up where with Goldfinger - but it has as much or even worse problems with the female characters and, oh dear god, the racism...

Dave Ford

And diving straight into the heart of your critique - I think anyone who watches that movie and isn't troubled by that scene has something a bit wrong with them.... And, you won't know this, but it's even worse than it comes across on screen - in the novel, Pussy isn't just reluctant, she's also gay. So yes, pretty awful - here's some context. The author Ian Fleming was, like Bond , an upper-class British naval officer (Commander) who worked in intelligence and enjoyed the high-life. I don't think it would be unfair to suggest there are Mary Sue elements in the James Bond stories, most of which were written in the early 50's and reflect the attitudes not only of the times, but also Fleming's own background and prejudices. These are never far away in the stories, and are probably worse in the earlier novels that are closer to the source material. The newer films which deviate more from the novels have their own problems which you'll probably experience in the Moore film. But still, this specific movie does have a vibe that really works - the reason I voted for it is because it is precisely the prototype Bond movie. The two earlier films aren't bad - but this one absolutely sets the template of all the fun element for the next twenty years of movies.

Dave Ford

One lovely thing I'd also like to note is that this movie is so iconic that your reaction informs about what other movies you have or haven't seen - for instance, I'm fairly sure that you've never seen the first Austin Powers movie, or if you have, you've almost completely forgotten it. Otherwise you'd have reacted differently both to Random Task and Alotta Fagina (I mean Odd Job and Pussy Galore), as well as the overly elaborate and unreliable ways that Goldfinger repeatedly fails to kill Bond. Oh, one note on the practical effects. During the scene with your (and everyone else's) favourite line, they really had a laser on-set. But the beam just disappeared when they turned the studio lights on. So instead they drew it in in post-production. As for the table melting? That was a guy under the table with an oxy-acetylene torch really cutting it. No wonder Connery was sweating.

Ryan
>>25373290

And apparently he actually kept going past when he was supposed to, for which Connery had some choice words for him afterwards. Also, Harold Sakata (Oddjob) was badly burned by the pyrotechnics in his death scene but still kept holding on to the bars until filming stopped. When everyone realized what had happened, he simply said "I didn't hear 'cut.'"

Ian Smith
>>25363104

Ok,I have now watched to the end of your reaction. I completely agree with your points re. the Bond women. Although far more pronounced in the early days of the series,this is still a perennial problem with the overall concept. Make the women too 'weak' in their relationship with Bond,and they become offensive stereotypes of male fantasy;make them too strong and equal,and they diminish Bond as the archetypal alpha-male hero. The more recent movies have done their best to find a solution to this,with greater emphasis on character back-story etc; but it remains something that you just have to buy into (and,quite understandably,many people can't). Ian Fleming was both a misogynist,and an admirer of women. The books (while very dated in their 'Old Etonian' attitudes to begin with) develop the female characters quite well on the whole;and Bond himself is given far more background than the films - he's very imperfect;and anything BUT indestructible.The literary version can probably best be described as 'heroically resilient'. I still love the movie,though. In terms of pacing,it holds up as well now (54 years later) as it did then. Connery (regardless of the sexism) is at his absolute peak. Say what you like about his attitudes,but NOBODY can get away with wearing a terrycloth bathrobe as well as he!

Anonymous

While it is beyond the pale today, the roll-in-the-hay scene wasn’t seen as all that bad back in the day. Here is Honor Blackman’s feeling about Pussy Galore: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WJwvR0k5r74 And Honor Blackman was also the original Avenger on The Avengers. Followed by Diana Rigg (Lady Ollena from GOT) who you will meet in your next Bond film. And an even tougher cookie!

Dave Ford
>>25406831

Damn right on that score https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk_3-L3XgQw