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In this episode Mir, Ishmael, and Jeni talk about transitions in life and in the kink scene. About how things change, communication, and dating.

This episode is also the last episode that Ishmael is producing and we'd like to give him our heartfelt thanks and a good luck on his awesome future endeavors.

Patreon subscribers at the Vanilla with Whip and above ($3+) are getting this uploaded early and we look forward to continuing to bring you great content as we go through our own podcast transition.

Thanks so much and happy listening

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