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Height Progress Quick Talks (Patreon)

Published:
2023-03-22 20:46:18
Imported:
2023-05

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Another small content update for all patrons. Attached are the Height Progress Quick Talks for the Height Update.

Ended up adding more new dialogues than anticipated, though a few older ones still remain.

Feedback is always appreciated and considered.


Thanks for your continued support, and hope you enjoy everything to come,

- Magnus

Comments

Anonymous

Why does the dom variation have a more Elizabethan tone? Not necessarily intelligent language, just posh for the sake of being posh. The default dialogue sounds most natural.

magnuscyoa
>>104667696

From my experience it's fairly common for some people to use a posh tone when they want to invoke an air of superiority - regardless of intelligence level. All her vocabulary is modern as far as I can tell.

Anonymous
>>104667696

"From my experience it's fairly common for some people to use a posh tone when they want to invoke an air of superiority." I find "fairly common" and "some people" very vague. It's like saying it's "common" for a "small population" of people to order coleslaw. It essentially achieves nothing other than saying it's "uncommon", or in this case, "very undefined". I think it's you attributing the idea of people having an an 'air of superiority' because they speak poshly. It's a weird view on elitism. If you want to get deep into it, people more often speak poshly based on their educational background rather than, 'Look at this guy. He's stupid. I'm going to use fancy language.' I'm specifically talking about how you structure her dialogue. "All her vocabulary is modern as far as I can tell." I didn't say anything about her vocabulary. I said her tone sounds Elizabethan, in that the structure of her English isn't modern informal, or even modern formal. Yes, this does include some word choice, but the vocabulary itself isn't necessarily important as much as the context is. 'This is a travesty! We MUST dedicate resources to making me taller as soon as possible!' The only voice this sounds natural in is a posh Elizabethan tone. No one realistically speaks like this unless they're playing the part of someone from a similar time period. "Must" is a very, very formal word in this context, and I'm not sure how "This is a travesty" being spoken aloud sounds like something you'd hear your girlfriend unironically say in modern times, unless it's satirical, which is mostly all it's good for in the modern day. "It's so satisfying to outgrow my old clothes. I hope these legs of mine keep getting longer and longer!" - Natural. Notice the modern voice? Although "these [this] [something] of mine" is something I have yet to hear someone say with a straight face. The phrase "of mine" is weird in itself. That's not a critique on poshness; it's just weird. "ascend to (sic) ever greater heights" (*ever-greater btw: hyphenate compound adjective) Does this sound like something someone would say in modern times? Even caricatures of dominant characters don't speak like this unless they're being satirical and unless they're in a time period where this sort of dialogue would be considered natural. "Regardless, I must find a (sic) to grow even taller than this!" Again, weird use of "must". I'm also not specifically talking about the dialogue in this file; I'm talking about the recent updates and how you depicted her dominant personality. It feels very fake, whereas the default (arguably the most natural) and sub sound more tailored to what they're supposed to represent without laying on their theme so thick.

magnuscyoa
>>104667696

Think we misunderstood each other's comments, and I don't want to have a debate over it. I understand that you dislike this style of dramatic tongue in cheek character. Hopefully others enjoy her hamminess, and everyone can play the version they prefer. If enough negative feedback like this towards the dominant is gathered, she'll eventually be changed again. Alternatively, if she proves popular then she'll continue this way.

Anonymous

"Think we misunderstood each other's comments, and I don't want to have a debate over it." I don't think I could have explained what you said any clearer. "I understand that you dislike this style of dramatic tongue in cheek character." Okay, but why specifically her 'dominant' personality? Why make the default and submissive variations sound modern, but her dominant personality sound "hammy", as you put it? Unless, did you think it wasn't hammy up until I pointed it out? "If enough negative feedback like this towards the dominant is gathered, she'll eventually be changed again. Alternatively, if she proves popular then she'll continue this way." That's fine. That's why we have beta testers here. I don't dispute that some people might enjoy this variation of [Your GF]. My initial question was, why does she have an Elizabethan tone when dominant, especially when the default and submissive variations sound more natural? You suggested it was to invoke an 'air of superiority', but you also called it hammy, which indicates that it's done for an exaggerated effect, and in which case, once again, why?

magnuscyoa
>>104677566

You incorrectly extrapolated my thought process, thus misunderstanding my comment. And I misunderstood what you meant by Elizabethan. There's no intention to make her 'not modern', and I disagree with your assessment that modern people never invoke that tone. I believe her dialogue is modern and dramatic. I can vividly recall many conversations from my real life and in text where people used language like you're criticizing. Especially 'travesty' and 'must' in that way. Primarily done for dramatic effect, which is the point here. All of my writing has various degrees of "hamminess"/"goofiness"/"whimsy". For example, the default girlfriend has referred to her biceps as "EXTREME EIGHTEENS" in the measurement activity for 5+ years now. (Though, that line may be changed soon). Hope that answers your questions.

Anonymous
>>104677566

"You incorrectly extrapolated my thought process, thus misunderstanding my comment. And I misunderstood what you meant by Elizabethan." I didn't, but I have the feeling you won;t back down on that even after I explain why.I think that you think I did, though. And that's why you used the word 'extrapolate'. "There's no intention to make her 'not modern', and I disagree with your assessment that modern people never invoke that tone. I believe her dialogue is modern and dramatic. I can vividly recall many conversations from my real life and in text where people used language like you're criticizing. Especially 'travesty' and 'must' in that way. Primarily done for dramatic effect, which is the point here." I never said modern people never invoke that tone. I also didn't say that you never experienced people like this. I definitely didn't say they don't use it in text, because they definitely do. Most people don't sound anything like how they text, or write. You can recall many conversations where people used this language. So can I. I can also recall conversations of people using broken English. I don't attribute broken English with anything other than misspeaking, whether it's for a humourous effect or not. I specifically say "humorous" because you mentioned "travesty" and "must" being used for "dramatic effect", which is true. They are. But that wasn't your intention. Your intention was to "invoke an air of superiority". Otherwise you would have jumped straight to saying, "This is for dramatic effect." That contextually makes sense in this conversation. You referenced times where this tone/language was only used for "dramatic effect", not when people were trying to invoke an air of superiority. 'All of my writing has various degrees of "hamminess"/"goofiness"/"whimsy". For example, the default girlfriend has referred to her biceps as "EXTREME EIGHTEENS" in the measurement activity for 5+ years now. (Though, that line may be changed soon).' I'm aware your writing does do this. I also have nothing against the "extreme eighteens" since the default character is already established as an upbeat sort of person, who becomes more assertive, and in this modern era, that dialogue fits wonderfully. It doesn't feel like a "dramatic effect". She didn't jump and say, "Why, look at the dimensions of upper arm? Isn't it splendid?" At that point you may as well call her the: "Goofy Variation GF," If anything, it is just shabby personality writing which can be made more in tune with both the real world and the character's intended personality. Writing it off as "dramatic effect" doesn't really answer anything. If anything, it says, "This is how I want the character to be, regardless of whether it's good or not." It is what it is though. We'll see what other people think of the personality. I just think it varies between "modern mommy" and "posh for the sake of posh".