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Battlestar Galactica 1x8 "Flesh and Bone" | Full Episode Reaction (Patreon)

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2023-04-04 14:00:06
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2023-11
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The themes this show explores are always so interesting and important. I also like that the show doesn’t seem to preach answers despite its heavy themes. It allows the viewer to make up their own mind. This is an example where I definitely changed my POV a little from the beginning to the end while also raising so many more things to think about. This show: 👏👏👏

Full Episode Reaction: https://youtu.be/6b8VnXHi9xI

YouTube Edit: https://youtu.be/HkEXw0MbprE

*I watched this episode on Blu-ray. The show is also available on digital retailers, peacock, and alternative means.

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Charity Konusser (the chonus)

Oh Chris I'm five days late to the party but you missed something HUGE. When you said you were going to go back and watch that last scene with Leoben it again, I was hoping you'd catch a really important piece of information that wasn't delivered in dialog but rather in visual repetition. Yes, the fact that Leoben said Adama is a Cylon definitely rattled her - but what she witnessed next is what truly changed everything for her. After Kara puts her hand on the glass to match Leoben's, he lifts his eyes and looks at Roslin - and it's the exact same shot as when he looked at her in her dream. And then when he's flung out of the airlock, it's *exactly what happened to him in her dream*. They used the same shot of Leoben flying backward and tumbling over with two different backgrounds on green screen. Go back and watch her dream again - the one where she's running through trees. Watch the composition of the shots of Leoben, and the lighting. Roslin had a vision of what would happen - she just didn't know it until it *happened*. *That's* why she went from sort of being unsettled when Leoben talked about Adama - she herself had talked about not believing a word he said and that he would play games with their beliefs - she was ready for that, though hearing 'Adama is a Cylon' is upsetting, sure - but what completely threw her is that she had had a prophetic dream about what would happen to Leoben - at her hands. (Plus in her second, shorter dream, Leoben said 'I have something to tell you' - a harbinger of his final words)

Charity Konusser (the chonus)

On another topic: as this episode raises questions about what is it to be human, how do we treat those we consider to be 'lesser' -- great pick-up on the Iraq War interrogation horrors. We had parallel developments between the Kara and Leoben scenes and the ongoing Boolon (ha!) and Helo storyline to illustrate these ideas. Both Kara and Boolon began their interactions believing that they belong to the superior race and that their 'captive's' race is beneath them. They both began their interactions because they were ordered to do so. As the stories progressed (Boolon's over days, Kara's over hours), they both came to feel significant empathy for their captives -- so much so that Kara got in Roslin's face and told her it wasn't right to put Leoben to death, when hours ago she would have been happy to send him out the airlock herself, while Boolon, by every indication, seems to have turned against the other Cylons and actually wants to protect Helo. There's so much good meat here about how familiarity breeds empathy, not contempt; how individual belief systems might coexist regardless of similarities or differences; how violence is always a choice, not an imperative.

casualnerdreactions
>>105954084

Oh interesting! I took that moment just as a moment of human connection and her questioning if it was right or not. I'm gonna be honest, I completely forgot about the dreams until you said it just now so I wouldn't have made the connection. I might have when I go to edit the episode. Thanks for pointing it out. Now I have even more questions, primarily what caused her to her to have such a prophetic dream? Fascinating! I'll revisit those scenes before I watch the next episode. :)

casualnerdreactions
>>105954993

Such great insight! Love that. The same thing happens on social media when snapshots of events and broad assumptions people respond so angirly, but (most of the time) one on one conversations go entirely differently. Familiarity breeds empathy is a great way to put it.