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Episode 18.5: Ronin (Patreon)

Published:
2021-10-19 22:15:02
Imported:
2021-10

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It's got three former Bond villains in it, it's themed around the fall of the USSR, and above all it's Alice's favourite movie, so we simply couldn't resist the opportunity to discuss Ronin, the star-studded Robert De Niro vehicle about hired killers stealing a briefcase.

Join us for Hugo Drax painting miniatures, Elliot Carver going full IRA, Alec Trevelyan with impostor syndrome, and learn the details of the KJB drinking game (Do Not Attempt This)!

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Harrison Hapner

As Fallout: New Vegas is one my favorite games, I very much appreciate the reference. Thank you Devon.

Alex Roselle

Commenting to point out that the random ice skater whom Gregor’s Russian Mafia contact is with was played by none other than Katarina Witt, the Olympics skating champion, actual East German, and (for some) late Cold War sex symbol.

Ineloquent Reverie

Okay I think I have a headcanon for what’s in the case: compromising photographs of major British government officials making arms deals with extremist Ulster Protestant terrorist groups in Northern Ireland

SpookyPenguin

fuck yeah my favourite car chase and sean bean being an idiot.

Anonymous

"the KJB drinking game."

Anonymous

Would that be the "King James Bible" drinking game?

Dormagio

While my pick for a cardboard cutout would be abigail, I prefer to imagine I am listening with Spicy Fruit Toast.

Anonymous

Y’all just absolutely fucking roasted me with that Fallout New Vegas joke

Bryce Connor

Omg I am just starting this I'm so fucking excited! Also please do Sneakers next!!

Jacob Vardy

Genuinely, fully, this film is the apotheosis of 20thC Hollywood. It's the pinnacle of 1970s New Hollywood films. It's tightly scripted and well acted. The characters are all mundane - not super human or fantastic. The film predates the bloat of cheap money after 2001. It's from before the practical effects industry was gutted by CGI... Not that i dislike contemporary films but in many ways this movie is the last of its kind.

Anonymous

Just to settle the minds of those listening: No, you are not going insane: Stellan Skarsgård was not in Knives Out. Given she's mentioned it in exactly the same context previously I think Abi was doing a callback joke.

Anonymous

Handcuffing a case to someone's wrist is apparently more about making sure the case arrives with the courier as it does with keeping someone from taking it; clearly, if someone wants the contents of the case bad enough, they'll take it, but what you don't want is the case accidentally left in the washroom at Zurich Central station.

Anonymous

Thanks for mentioning the KJB drinking game in this episode, Devon! I'm flattered I got a genuinely good laugh from each of the hosts! I'm parasocially famous now! I should mention, for Alice's fantastic/baffling part, I wanted to clarify to the fellow patreon members. I meant when Alice says "a baffling line" like she says before the I never learned to read drop. Or when she says "a fantastic line" before the Timothy Dalton drop "Looks like Sanchez's law operates north of the border too". More formulaic, Alice says, "a adjective/adverb line" followed by a drop. So for you playing at home, don't get alcohol poisoning! Finally, next week will be the last week I change my name in relation to the movie. I don't have the creative capacity to think of a banger joke every week that can fit into the name. Albeit, I really like this name because I have a feeling they talked about this.

Slugnoid

I'd subscribe to an alice dev and abi pod about the sharpe series

Angerboda

im Delighted that the Gang knows us all Personally, and arent At All SARCASTIC. (My heart is Broken now; Think of the Cat!)

Anonymous

Bean there, Sean that.

Meonlights

What do I do if I got the FNV joke but already am on HRT? Panik??

Anonymous

WRT the bit at the end about the Good Friday Agreement - filming ended a month before the agreement was signed, so I'd guess they added it to stay current.

heffa

The style of showing all the complicated details that go on behind intel and covert work is brilliantly shown in some of the fiction novels from ex-SAS guys, like Andy McNab, Chris Ryan, etc

heffa

I dont know if I could have a date with an Abi cardboard cutout. It wouldnt withstand either the Shibari ties or the flogging xo

James Cézanne-Taipale

Great, so now that we’re all friends here can I maybe get a ride to the airport from one of you?

Anonymous

Alice, In the SAS, For Real THIS TIME

Anonymous

I am soooooo looking for them talking about the 2 scenes in Tomorrow Never Dies where M and Moneypenny do a total 180 and condone James' sleeping with women to extract information and where Johnathan Pryce tries his hand at kung-fu.

Anonymous

I also wanted to say to my fellow comrades that I should have included the word reference on Abi's "joke about the gender identity clinic..." I do not want to be insensitive to her, nor to anyone in the LGBTQ community. This podcast has helped me become not just a supporter, but an LGBTQ ally and further understand what that community has gone through and still goes through in Britain (I am a yank). And I would like to thank the hosts for making that possible. Also, the reason I post so much here is that my brain is normal(-ish) and happier without social media. So I apologize if I clog up the feed with my ramblings, but I love the community here so I'll be spending the day making 2300 cardboard cutouts to watch further movies with.

Anonymous

Since we are all personal friends here, does Alice have any notes on running this as a TTRPG, and if so can I have them please?

Claudia

Listened to the whole episode only to get insanely excited about the fact that in two weeks they're doing Van Helsing, one of my unironically favourite movies

Anonymous

Maybe something like Blades in the dark Alice? Where there is a mechanism to go back and do the planning stuff

Anonymous

*changes the name of the group chat to "Fucked into a cocked hat"*

Anonymous

For the first several minutes I heard Mr. Bean instead of Sean Bean and was very confused

Ignatius

okay, this is going to seem like an insane recommendation but if you love Michael Lonsdale you have to watch Out 1. it's a 13 hour long movie, almost entirely improv, and a good chunk of the first 2 hours is theatre groups doing silent acting exercises - i know that all sounds unbearable but you have to believe me when i say its one of the best films ever made the first couple of hours can feel like a chore to watch but they're absolutely necessary and once you get past them and the film gets its hooks in you it is an emotional rollercoaster. Michael Lonsdale gives an incredible performance that keeps catching you off-guard and his acting towards the end of the film seared itself into my brain

Ignatius
>>70199504

Ignatiy Vishnevetsky's review does a better job than i ever could explaining what makes it so special, but even if you end up hating the film its worth watching a decent chunk of it just for the performances https://www.avclub.com/unique-and-monumental-out-1-is-the-most-paranoid-movie-1798185517

Anonymous

I've got to suggest 'Escape to Athena' for this, it's a 1979 half WW2 adventure-comedy and half bond film - and it stars Roger Moore (though he's not the protagonist)

Alfred Lang

53:43 sounds like a new patron goal to me lol

Alfred Lang

1:17:31 ooo you should try van hellsing abridged :)

Christine Pizan

all this talk of the procedural intricacies this film endeavours to show reminds me of one my favourite anti-bond procedural thrillers that might be good for you to watch, with a similar name scheme to this one le samourai (1967)

Katie

This podcast is ok but I’m really looking forward to ‘Full o’ Beans’

OvO Hoot

The small coffee cups are set up by De Niro's first line in the movie: "Juste un petit verre."

Tom Moffat

I hope at some point we get Ocean’s 12 as a bonus, I would very much like to hear my best friends, the hosts of this podcast, discussing that one

Cate Kneale
>>70160869

I'm looking forward to Alice's drop of Madonna saying cockfights from Die Another Day.

Noblesse Oblahaj

Could you recommend more books and movies, fiction and non-fiction, with good spycraft?

Anonymous

Do you think the dogs that greet them at Aged Hugo Drax's house were the same ones that ate the woman from the bond movie?

Anonymous

People from Britain talking about "Europeans, eh?" will never not send me

Slazenger Kincaid

Late here because I'm catching up having just recently become a patron: your Sean Bean podcast should be SAVE SEAN BEAN

cybercrime

Thanks to the podcast i watched this movie. I fully believe that the voiceover in the end was added because this movie released in the same year as the good friday referendum, and they were too far into making it when that happened. After all none of the characters reference it so it could well have been added in the edit