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Stranger Things | 4x9 REACTION!! (Patreon)

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2022-10-31 20:29:55
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2023-02

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Chrissy

I’ll shut that thought down real quick that 001 is stronger than El, he isn’t. El is more powerful. The only reason she didn’t win this fight is because the physical mindflayer in season 3 took her powers and passed them through telepathic means to Vecna and she literally had to start all over again to build up her powers. You have to understand that before you can argue your point about her powers if you can’t answer because you don’t know, where her powers went at the end of season 3. Of course she can’t beat him yet. But you’re forgetting why Vecna wanted her power in the first place, BECAUSE EL CAN OPEN GATES AND 001 CAN’T AND THATS HOW EL HAS ALWAYS BEEN STRONGER SINCE DAY ONE. Sometimes things are the absolute simplest answer. The amount of time that the vines were choking Nancy, Steve and Robin, don’t you think, seen as though Vecna controls every single vine, that he could have pinned them to the wall controlling the vines to keep them right at the point where they could be killed but not quite, on the edge of death basically? Yes, he could and I’m pretty sure that’s what he did. He showed her images of her friends DYING not dead because he wanted her to watch them die, for her to suffer, not as effective if they’re dead, is it? So he kept them at the edge of death for 30 minutes.

Anonymous

Great video guys! Just to clarify, it wasn’t El that freed Steve, Robin, and Nancy, it was Murray killing the demidogs with the flamethrower because it’s all a hive mind. That’s why it was important to flip between scenes like they did. Also, the flamethrower was out of gas which is why Hopper had to kill the demigorgon with the sword.

94_h

Nathan, guys, all of you literally forgot what you just watched, haha. Eleven didn’t save the day! She lost to Vecna! They didn’t win! The power of love didn’t save anyone. What ACTUALLY saved everyone was Murray using the flame thrower on the demagorgons at the Russia jail because everything is a hive mind; it’s all connected so it broke the connection: the demobats fell to the floor, the vines stopped choking Steve, Robin and Nancy and Vecna's mind lair started to evaporate. Murray is the true hero in this final episode. Please rewind that moment because everyone and their mothers forgot about it (a lot happened, so I don't blame you). I mean, Brenner was right when he said they were not ready to fight Henry; he’s too powerful. Then Nancy, Steve and Robin did their thing and Henry woke up from his trance. Nancy should’ve gone for Vecna’s head though because his power comes from his mind.

94_h
>>94722995

Yes, in a show like Stranger Things, everything that we see on screen is there for a reason. I can provide many examples, but you explained it perfectly!

94_h

The Russian prison guard's name is not Enzo. He used that as a code when Joyce received the letter that told her that Hopper was alive, but his name is actually Dmitri Antonov.

94_h

I agree with Davion: I also do not like the idea of Steve and Nancy together again. I guess people want that because they absolutely love Steve and want him to be happy, but do you think Nancy reacted positive or liked what he said about having all those kids and being his wife? I don’t think she did, at all. Her expression didn't seem approving. If anything, Nancy is the antithesis of what Steve described… I don’t know, for me, is like Steve is idealizing her to something she is not (which Jonathan doesn’t seem to do). So, we’ll see what happens in S5 but all these little Nancy and Steve moments are like setting Steve's and Nancy's character development so far behind, in my opinion, because it's like they haven't learned from their past.

TrixieTurner

Vecna didn't lose that fight, El was only winning because it was a battle on multiple fronts. If it had just been a single head to head between the two I don't think El would come out alive at this point.

Anonymous

The answers to their misunderstandings in simple terms🤣: 1) eleven would have beat Vecna if Nancy Steve and robin did not intervene from the upside down. 2) El bringing max back doesn’t mean a new power, she’s telekinetic, if she can throw a body then she can telekinetically pump a heart like a defibrillator. 3) the mike&el scene was so significant because A) el could hear him & max couldn’t hear Lucas dustin or Steve. B) mikes voice was els version of music being the key back to reality. 4) the mind flayer is Vecna, the dust cloud itself was literally just a shadow-monster-like entity, but Vecna transformed it into the spider form and put his own conscious onto it, making Vecna the actual mind flayer. 5) remember that Vecna absorbs all the things he kills or has control over; all the lab kids, max’s conscience, demogorgons, demodogs, shadow monster(now mind flayer bc it’s vecnas projected conscience). Unlike El, Vecna absorbs victims, and that is where Max’s mind is.

a k

nathan u clearly cant argue with them it litterally shows vecna is the big bad and controlling and they still tryin to tell otherwise lmao did they watch this shit with their eyes clossed

Jo Mac

They revealed this episode that Vecna is the big bad. he's the one who's been in control this whole time

Jo Mac

Nathan is right with this one vecna is the big bad that was the big reveal they made

Chrissy
>>94725513

There’s no way realistically Nancy and Jonathan will stay together. We’ve seen how he doesn’t want to go to school with her. He’s continuing that lie, nothing good comes from building lie upon lie. Next season Nancy will find out and yes, Hawkins may be fucked but it’s the fact that Jonathan lied to her that she won’t be ok with. Nancy stopped putting up with peoples shit mid season 2. I love Steve, favorite character, do I want him with Nancy? Not particularly because he can do better and I say this because Nancy is romantically challenged. She has no idea what she wants. I’ve lived enough years to know, she needs to step back with her sawn off for a while and focus on school and a career and down the line, if roads lead back to Steve cool, but if this is going to be a “playing with his emotions” bullshit scenario, then leave him alone. Jonathan just needs to find himself again. Help Will through this challenging stage of his life, next season is going to be Wills season. The way Jonathan has been written less and less in the show, to be honest, I think he might not make it next season.

Chrissy

This post discussion was infuriating. Legitimately I felt like I was going to combust from the absolute non sensical chat crap that was coming from Davion and Cameron 😬 You feel you can write a better script, (though from what they were saying, even Lifetime channel wouldn’t pick that story idea up), then go for it, I’m sure the Duffers aren’t worried someone who thinks they can do better is going to steal their thunder, I bet they sleep like babies at night knowing they made bank writing the number one tv show in the world. I needed a vacation and a 12 hour nap after that post discussion because my god.

Millie b

the duffers mentioned that season 5 will be centred around will so im very excited for that!! another thing, i have no clue how el brought max back but there are theories that you know when One killed all them kids back in the lab with el, he told el that they aren't fully gone and that they are in his mind, so in my eyes I feel like el somewhat did the same thing with max, that max's consciousness is in el's mind somewhere and that's why she's in a coma, because her own mind is seperated from her body because then her body has enough time to heal so that when max's mind and body combine again, she won't die. I don't know how true that is but I can't wait to see it for s5

Chrissy
>>94780352

You did what you were supposed to, you had a post watch discussion, you had your opinions, I’ve got mine, and they don’t have to be the same. Sometimes I forget that. Only good thoughts to you Davion 🙏🏻❤️