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ok as promised i am posting the process of the pervious post here and explaining why i do what i do and holy heck! never again will i set up a render to have lights on the epic wings from DAZ... good grief it DOES look good but with OVER AN HOUR render...no... just no. with this particular (and the previous one) i only used 3 distant lights in DAZ and no Uber environment (had i not used wings) this cuts down render time and gives a more saturated color scheme. and you have more visible control over the lights (again don't render anything with SO MUCH opacity maps )

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