Home
Artists
Search Recent Random
Posts
Search DMs Popular Hash Lookup Tags Random
Importer
Import FAQ
Register
Partychan Matrix ThePornDude
Home Artists Posts Import Register
Patreon importer is back online! Tell your friends ✅

WATCH ALONG | One Tree Hill | 2x13 | The Hero Dies in This One (Patreon)

Published:
2022-07-26 12:00:05
Imported:
2023-01

Content

A Few Notes:

  • Please no spoilers beyond this episode unless you see that later episodes have already been released. In that case, no spoilers beyond those episodes.
  • This video is in a watch along format. This means you'll need your own copy of the episode to watch alongside my reaction. This is in an effort to avoid copyright infringement.
  • If you're based in the UK (or using a UK streaming site), here are instructions for how to get your copy to sync with mine.
  • If you want to know what’s coming up, check out the schedule here.

*****

*Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. NO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT INTENDED. All rights belong to their respective owners.

Files

OTH 2.13 - Patreon.mp4

Dropbox is a free service that lets you bring your photos, docs, and videos anywhere and share them easily. Never email yourself a file again!

Comments

Morgan

So I had to wait until this episode to finally say a few things I wanted to say about Haley and Nathan these past few episodes before now some of what I said would've been spoilers. So sorry in advance for the "novel" I'm about to write lol. I will always dislike how the writers wrote Haley for most of this season some of the things Haley does this season seems "out of character" for convenience. Joy (Haley), Tyler Hilton (Chris), Gavin DeGraw (who sang the One Tree Hill theme song), and The Wreckers (Michelle Branch and Jessica Harp) really did go on a One Tree Hill tour to a few cities over a month so basically Haley's limited scenes/few absences in episodes this season. In reality you would've thought now that Nathan and Haley are married they would've tried to work their relationship issues out like how we saw when they had issues in Season 1 when they were just dating. Now Haley just left for the tour even though Nathan gave her an "ultimatum" about their marriage and they haven't truly tried to work out their issues. As someone who has Nathan and Haley in my top 3 characters from One Tree Hill I've always thought they were both wrong. Haley always gets a lot of the hate for her decision but in the same token Nathan is the one that wanted Haley to pursue her music. Haley didn't have to lie so much regarding her music and Chris at the same time touring may be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Nathan essentially didn't want Haley to go because he seems more dependent on her because of his family issues (his dependency issues kind of get the best of Nathan sometimes). Meanwhile with Haley it has been pretty much established as the most independent of the teens on the show (Haley's parents, her sister Taylor, Karen, and Lucas have all either said this/alluded to this) and Haley basically says in this episode she does have to pursue this opportunity for herself. They both could've pursued individual achievements but it is like they couldn't properly communicate that to each other. I will say I actually like that they didn't make Haley and Nathan a perfect couple. Even though Naley is my favorite couple from the show I'm glad they are showing the couple having flaws this season. While I love the romance of season 1 Naley I do like that they are being more realistic this season that there was going to be conflict between them because they got married at 16 after only dating a few months. In my opinion conflict with Haley and Nathan was either going to cause issues, break them up, or make their relationship stronger. Right now it looks like it broke them up and how they resolve that conflict shouldn't be something that happens "overnight" (so wasn't going to happen in just a few episodes).

Heather
>>88379876

I think Haley being OOC is being written for a reason, but whether Haley is being OOC for a reason or for convenience I think her individual storyline is about her finding out who she is and that isn't always pretty. It would have been nice if this could have happened before they were married and spared Nathan and their marriage, but alas they didn't consider that before they got married like 3 months after dating, so that's not the case. Like you mentioned before, Haley changed Nathan, but also Nathan changed Haley. He made her more open to expanding who she thought she was. We first saw this in season 1 when she sang for him and then with the tattoo (referenced in season 2 also). Then they make a really rushed decision to get married. Then she meets Chris he guilts her and she gets the courage to sing for the first time publicly and finds out she really loves it. A lot of expansion happening at once. What also has been established by some of those same people is how they know Haley. Haley telling her parents she's a cautious person and looks at things from all angles (not sure she really did that though). Her parents then saying she's never made a rash decision in her life. Karen saying, "that is not the Haley James I know" when told of her marriage. Karen and Taylor both saying she's a good person and will do the right thing. Her OOC is being acknowledged by others, which is why I think it's for a reason more than convenience. It was established really early in season 2. Who is Haley and who does she want to be? We saw this with Nathan in season 1 (though obv it was just the start because he's still developing), now it's her turn. Speaking of Nathan, he has some HUGE anger issues that have nothing to do with Haley and him being hurt/betrayed by Haley isn't helping. It's hard to watch. Nathan needs therapy, but that wasn't a thing back then unfortunately.

Peaches

I have to say that I’m one of those people that really really dislike Haley this season and the way she when about things. It’s kinda hard to see both side because it’s not so much of Nathan not supporting her dreams because he was actually believed in it when he found out she could sing and pushed her to do it. The only reason he was upset with Haley rightfully as he should be is when he found out Haley lied and continue to do so about doing music with Chris. When he finally found out about the kiss that was his breaking point! I totally understand that Haley is young and has to do what she has to do but chose to have a husband and there are better ways to chase your dream without lying about it to your husband. Nathan ultimatum was clearly out of anger and he didn’t mean it in that moment however his reaction was very understandable , he just found out his wife kissed a guy that she’s been doing music with and now wants to go on tour with him! Like huh? can you imagine what things are going through his head etc…. I gain more respect for Nathan when he realized that he said something he didn’t mean and decided to go back and fix things with Haley unlike Haley who copped out and and left knowing deep down that Nathan didn’t mean it! Yeah haley was definitely a lost cause this season, wasn’t a fan of her one bit s2! 🥴 And yep lucas is definitely a great friend but some how fails at being a good boyfriend 😩😂

Heather
>>88452450

Nathan was my favorite at this point, but I wasn't oblivious to his faults. I actually loved him more for them because he was trying to be a better person and do things differently, but his past issues were always beneath the surface and would always creep up. I'm one of those people who never understood why for many Nathan was blameless and his behavior was excusable. Granted Haley's was more egregious because in her selfishness in finding who she was and what she wanted she was hurting him and adding to his past issues, but for me they both played a role in their troubled marriage. Are we just suppose to ignore how he was being? Nathan was "supportive" up to a certain extent. He was fine with it when it was under his terms and he had control. He sent Peyton her music and had her song played at the dance after she expressed to him she didn't want him to. How is that supportive? Respect her wishes. She wasn't ready. Well, the 2nd time was also because she worked with Chris, but he didn't know that. Ironically, if he wouldn't have sent that to Peyton she never would have worked with Chris. He was issuing orders that were close to an ultimatum before the kiss even happened. He forbid her from working with Chris. He was jealous, angry, petty and insecure, before he had any reason to be. The way he would talk to her at times was really hateful and spiteful. Definitely glimpses of pre-Haley season 1 Nathan, shining through. Obviously this was triggered from his insecurities, but it doesn't make it right or help the situation. When he goes back to "fix" things we don't know what that would have looked like. He didn't try very hard at fixing anything before. Fixing it before involved ignoring Haley and messing around with Taylor out of spite. This was before he even knew what had happened. He has shown no acknowledgment up until this point of his behavior and I can't imagine his anger would have disappeared and they just would have fixed things. They didn't know how. They both seemed to be resenting each other at this point and were extremely immature. As far as chasing your dreams and how to go about it, Nathan was just as wrong as she was but in a different way. He chose to give up his dreams for her, even though she didn't ask him to, and even after she made a plan for them for him to have both. He made that decision all on his own by lying to her about not getting in. Bottom line is that if they would have had a better foundation for their marriage none of this would have happened. They both lacked the ability to communicate and make the other person understand where they were coming from. Instead both were just constantly angry at the other person's actions. Just because they were officially married doesn't change this. I agree there were better ways to go about their marriage and following their dreams, but from them both. For me their issues stemmed from the point in their lives when they got married, not knowing themselves or each other. That is why I can understand both sides. They are showing us this. This was never going to be an easy fix whether she stayed or left. Yeah, I never got that about Lucas. Nathan and Lucas was the best part of this season for me, especially coming up.😭 Sorry for the long response. 😳