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Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011) ✦ Full-Length Watchalong Reaction (Patreon)

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2024-07-30 17:15:01
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Hi everyone! This film is another that I had never heard of before and this one was a request through my Reactr page.

Click here to watchalong with me!

There hasn't been a reaction of mine yet where I have felt like I need to encourage you to watch my review before the reaction itself, but I feel that way about this one because I'm bummed by my own reaction. 😅 I hope that whoever chooses to watch with me still has a good time, along with the original requestor.

Thanks so much for taking the time! 💛

✦ KL

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Nicholas Bielik

Btw the novel and the story are inspired by real life events. The author of the book, John LeCarre, served in the British intelligence services, and the mole in this book is loosely based on Kim Philby, a British spy, who was exposed as being a double agent for the Soviet Union in the early 1960s. Philby’s actions did immeasurable damage to the British intelligence services and resulted in a number of deaths.

Tyler Foster

Another great, great adaptation of Le Carre that I saw recently and really enjoyed was "The Little Drummer Girl" (2018), which aired as a mini-series on AMC. The show was directed by the phenomenal South Korean filmmaker Park Chan-Wook, who is responsible for some contemporary classics, including the very dark Oldboy (2003) and The Handmaiden (2016), and the less-dark but still wickedly complex Decision to Leave (2022). These three films are in Korean, but this miniseries is in English (aside from a few lines here and there), and features a cast of top-shelf talent that you'll definitely recognize. If you're ever looking for a single-season miniseries that's nonetheless very substantial (hour-plus episodes with the same kind of elaborate detail as TTSS), keep it in mind. Park also recently directed another buzzy mini-series for HBO, "The Sympathizer," which is also largely in English (although at least part of it involves Vietnamese spies and thus is in Vietnamese), and features another all-star ensemble. I haven't watched this yet, but I did re-up my Max subscription for a year with it in mind. (Note that the discs I imported offered the Director's Cut of "Little Drummer Girl," so that's the version I recommend. There is also a movie adaptation of the same book from 1984, which I have not seen, but want to now.)

Tyler Foster (edited)

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2024-08-05 21:22:47 I saw the movie in theaters back in 2011 and I can definitely say that I didn't really follow it at the time. Rewatched it for the first time since then with your reaction, and it was like night and day. I think if you read the whole plot through again right before your next viewing of the movie, you'll find it much easier to follow. The essence of the drama in the movie is that Smiley is an observer trying to interpret all of the possibilities that exists within everyone's behavior. When a character is hostile towards Cumberbatch's Guillam, for example, who they all suspect is potentially up to something but don't know what, are they just expressing a natural fear in a job where interoffice politics are especially cutthroat, or are they the mole covering their own tracks? And I don't think, going into this story, a newcomer can assume for certain that Smiley himself is not the mole -- he finds himself on a chess piece too, even though we later learn that Control did not think he was a suspect. Ultimately, the movie is kind of like a very dry and methodical whodunnit, and I think with that framework and knowing how things turn out, you'll grasp how the filmmaking is telling that story. Also, while I believe Smiley has a strong suspicion, even though he doesn't say it, I don't think anyone knows for sure that Irina is the woman who was killed during Jim Prideaux's torture. Jim Prideaux doesn't actually know her, only Ricki Tarr does, so Jim likely would've only described her to Smiley as an anonymous woman. However, I believe he deduces from the way that they were both carted off while still wounded that they were likely taken to the same place, and that it was probably her who was killed, so when he promised Ricki he'll help her, he knows there's likely nothing to be done. The director of this movie, Tomas Alfredson, is a Swedish filmmaker, who became famous after making the contemporary vampire classic Let the Right One In. After this, he went onto make a disastrous third film, The Snowman, a botched production which is most notable for having a poster that became an internet meme ("MISTER POLICE -- YOU COULD HAVE SAVED HER -- I GAVE YOU ALL THE CLUES"). Another really notable crew member for you would be Hoyte van Hoytema, who Alfredson brought from Let the Right One In. It makes sense that you felt this movie was beautifully shot, not just because it is, but also because you've loved his work with Christopher Nolan, including Interstellar.
2024-08-02 06:06:31 I saw the movie in theaters back in 2011 and I can definitely say that I didn't really follow it at the time. Rewatched it for the first time since then with your reaction, and it was like night and day. I think if you read the whole plot through again right before your next viewing of the movie, you'll find it much easier to follow. The essence of the drama in the movie is that Smiley is an observer trying to interpret all of the possibilities that exists within everyone's behavior. When a character is hostile towards Cumberbatch's Guillam, for example, who they all suspect is potentially up to something but don't know what, are they just expressing a natural fear in a job where interoffice politics are especially cutthroat, or are they the mole covering their own tracks? And I don't think, going into this story, a newcomer can assume for certain that Smiley himself is not the mole -- he finds himself on a chess piece too, even though we later learn that Control did not think he was a suspect. Ultimately, the movie is kind of like a very dry and methodical whodunnit, and I think with that framework and knowing how things turn out, you'll grasp how the filmmaking is telling that story. Also, while I believe Smiley has a strong suspicion, even though he doesn't say it, I don't think anyone knows for sure that Irina is the woman who was killed during Jim Prideaux's torture. Jim Prideaux doesn't actually know her, only Ricki Tarr does, so Jim likely would've only described her to Smiley as a woman he was unfamiliar with. What makes the most sense is that Smiley deduces from the way that they were both carted off in the same way by the same people that they were likely taken to the same place, and therefore it would make the most sense for her to be the dead woman, so when he promises Ricki he'll help her, he knows there's likely nothing to be done. The director of this movie, Tomas Alfredson, is a Swedish filmmaker, who became famous after making the contemporary vampire classic Let the Right One In. After this, he went onto make a disastrous third film, The Snowman, a botched production which is most notable for having a poster that became an internet meme ("MISTER POLICE -- YOU COULD HAVE SAVED HER -- I GAVE YOU ALL THE CLUES"). Another really notable crew member for you would be Hoyte van Hoytema, who Alfredson brought from Let the Right One In. It makes sense that you felt this movie was beautifully shot, not just because it is, but also because you've loved his work with Christopher Nolan, including Interstellar. Another great, great adaptation of Le Carre that I saw recently and really enjoyed was "The Little Drummer Girl" (2018), which aired as a mini-series on AMC. The show was directed by the phenomenal South Korean filmmaker Park Chan-Wook, who is responsible for some contemporary classics, including the very dark Oldboy (2003) and The Handmaiden (2016), and the less-dark but still wickedly complex Decision to Leave (2022). These three films are in Korean, but this miniseries is in English (aside from a few lines here and there), and features a cast of top-shelf talent that you'll definitely recognize. If you're ever looking for a single-season miniseries that's nonetheless very substantial (hour-plus episodes with the same kind of elaborate detail as TTSS), keep it in mind. Park also recently directed another buzzy mini-series for HBO, "The Sympathizer," which is also largely in English (although at least part of it involves Vietnamese spies and thus is in Vietnamese), and features another all-star ensemble. I haven't watched this yet, but I did re-up my Max subscription for a year with it in mind. (Note that the discs I imported offered the Director's Cut of "Little Drummer Girl," so that's the version I recommend. There is also a movie adaptation of the same book from 1984, which I have not seen, but want to now.)

I saw the movie in theaters back in 2011 and I can definitely say that I didn't really follow it at the time. Rewatched it for the first time since then with your reaction, and it was like night and day. I think if you read the whole plot through again right before your next viewing of the movie, you'll find it much easier to follow. The essence of the drama in the movie is that Smiley is an observer trying to interpret all of the possibilities that exists within everyone's behavior. When a character is hostile towards Cumberbatch's Guillam, for example, who they all suspect is potentially up to something but don't know what, are they just expressing a natural fear in a job where interoffice politics are especially cutthroat, or are they the mole covering their own tracks? And I don't think, going into this story, a newcomer can assume for certain that Smiley himself is not the mole -- he finds himself on a chess piece too, even though we later learn that Control did not think he was a suspect. Ultimately, the movie is kind of like a very dry and methodical whodunnit, and I think with that framework and knowing how things turn out, you'll grasp how the filmmaking is telling that story. Also, while I believe Smiley has a strong suspicion, even though he doesn't say it, I don't think anyone knows for sure that Irina is the woman who was killed during Jim Prideaux's torture. Jim Prideaux doesn't actually know her, only Ricki Tarr does, so Jim likely would've only described her to Smiley as a woman he was unfamiliar with. What makes the most sense is that Smiley deduces from the way that they were both carted off in the same way by the same people that they were likely taken to the same place, and therefore it would make the most sense for her to be the dead woman, so when he promises Ricki he'll help her, he knows there's likely nothing to be done. The director of this movie, Tomas Alfredson, is a Swedish filmmaker, who became famous after making the contemporary vampire classic Let the Right One In. After this, he went onto make a disastrous third film, The Snowman, a botched production which is most notable for having a poster that became an internet meme ("MISTER POLICE -- YOU COULD HAVE SAVED HER -- I GAVE YOU ALL THE CLUES"). Another really notable crew member for you would be Hoyte van Hoytema, who Alfredson brought from Let the Right One In. It makes sense that you felt this movie was beautifully shot, not just because it is, but also because you've loved his work with Christopher Nolan, including Interstellar. Another great, great adaptation of Le Carre that I saw recently and really enjoyed was "The Little Drummer Girl" (2018), which aired as a mini-series on AMC. The show was directed by the phenomenal South Korean filmmaker Park Chan-Wook, who is responsible for some contemporary classics, including the very dark Oldboy (2003) and The Handmaiden (2016), and the less-dark but still wickedly complex Decision to Leave (2022). These three films are in Korean, but this miniseries is in English (aside from a few lines here and there), and features a cast of top-shelf talent that you'll definitely recognize. If you're ever looking for a single-season miniseries that's nonetheless very substantial (hour-plus episodes with the same kind of elaborate detail as TTSS), keep it in mind. Park also recently directed another buzzy mini-series for HBO, "The Sympathizer," which is also largely in English (although at least part of it involves Vietnamese spies and thus is in Vietnamese), and features another all-star ensemble. I haven't watched this yet, but I did re-up my Max subscription for a year with it in mind. (Note that the discs I imported offered the Director's Cut of "Little Drummer Girl," so that's the version I recommend. There is also a movie adaptation of the same book from 1984, which I have not seen, but want to now.)

Tyler Foster
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Also, while it's clear based on your uncertainty about your own video that this is never coming to the channel anyway, and with the understanding that I don't say this to influence you but just to inform you, from what I've seen, it's not necessarily StudioCanal that's the problem. StudioCanal is actually a massive overseas company that has the international rights to thousands of major movies, many of which are already on Cinebinge and various other major reaction channels -- we're talking ten, twenty movies that are live and haven't been claimed per channel. On Cinebinge in particular, Basic Instinct would also be another one that SC controls more directly than others, and I don't recall the video ever being reported as having issues. From what I see, it's specifically that first Rambo movie First Blood that someone is particularly hawk-eyed about.