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NEW VIDEO: Why Meat is the Best Worst Thing in the World (Patreon)

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2018-09-30 13:07:28
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2021-02

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Meat is a complicated issue. But also a delicious one. Let's talk about it!

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Why Meat is the Best Worst Thing in the World 🍔

The first 1000 people to use this link will get a 2 month free trial of skillshare: http://skl.sh/kurzgesagt3 Meat is a complicated issue. But also a delicious one. Let's talk about it. Sources: https://sites.google.com/view/kgssourcesmeat/startseite Support us on Patreon so we can make more videos (and get cool stuff in return): https://www.patreon.com/Kurzgesagt?ty=h Kurzgesagt Newsletter: http://eepurl.com/cRUQxz Kurzgesagt merch: https://bit.ly/2GeuQxZ Facebook: http://bit.ly/1NB6U5O Twitter: http://bit.ly/2DDeT83 Instagram: http://bit.ly/2DEN7r3 Discord: https://discord.gg/Fsstncs The music of the video here: Soundcloud: https://bit.ly/2IoHiOz Bandcamp: https://bit.ly/2OW6s9H Facebook: https://bit.ly/2qW6bY4 THANKS A LOT TO OUR LOVELY PATRONS FOR SUPPORTING US: jake, Juliane Fajta, Dominik Kröll, Michael Loughran, Graham Stockhausen, Tim Freitag, jaycornonthecob, Riley Ings, Bennet Kammel, Jennifer Baily, Jan Böhm, Chris Corella, Ryan Hanley, Eryn, Frédéric Lessard, Markus Delves, Christopher Kitcher, Austin Harsh, Kai Kent, David Krauss, Chris Portela, Carlos Ocasio, Sebastian Kalix, Brian Long, Tunnelgram, Matt McKellar-Spence, Rick Mayne, Brant Nielsen, Ahmad, Maria, Oskari Kettunen, Stephen DeCataldo, Dylan H, Alexandre, Astrid Eldhuset, Simon Tobar, sciencejunkie, Antonio Juarez, Devon Bernard, Adrian Thomas-Prestemon, Herve, Eric Julius, Reno Lam, Jonathan Sit, Arun Sathiyamurthy, Alex Molyneux, Vladimir Kravtsov, Nick Smith, Théo PEDROSA, PB, Stan Hartley, Michaela Maerkel, Chris Beal, Kacper Kwiatkowski, Nik Alston, Kris Herrick, l.h. riley, Bálint Péter, Bored Studios, Lu Oo, Mario Alexander, Sravan Kumar, Pentalis, Baptiste Parravicini, Oscar, Jan Prokop, Vincent Larouche, Krannex, Antti Nylund, Stefan Raab, Roman Ring, Luke Donabauer, Tim Walsh, Robert LaRosa, Matt DeWolfe, Ben Bromley, Null, Steve Goyne, hongseop Kim, Leif Henning, Tim Sheard, Aleksandr Asirian, chris, Aditya Veer, DrStrangepork, Randy, Daniel Mardale, Krzysztof Krypczyk, Sebastian Regez, Joe Magnabosco Help us caption & translate this video! https://www.youtube.com/timedtext_cs_panel?c=UCsXVk37bltHxD1rDPwtNM8Q&tab=2 Why Meat is the Best Worst Thing in the World

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Anonymous

even if the information is hard to swallow, you produce high quality videos about it. Thank you!

Anonymous

Dude. I felt like trash while watching. I guess a meatless day is due.

StormTiger

Pretty solid video! While most of the information was presented in a clean, factual way, I still encountered a couple of allusions. First, the video tries to question the lack of morality of killing animals, classifying them as "living beings" while completely disregarding the fact that plants are living beings aswell. Later, we are presented with the dilemma of putting animals together in an unnatural way. I don't think I nedd to explain the natural fallacy here. It could be easily countered by saying that humans naturally eat meat, and naturally want to distribute it in the most effective way possible. The real problem sits in wether other species' lifes are as important as ours. If you answer no, there is no real reason to stop eating meat. If you answer yes, well crap, I have bad news for you. Overall, nice video like always. Just wanted to add my 2 cents.

Anonymous
>>15912822

I feel like they made it quite clear that they were talking about suffering in living beings and since plants can't suffer, it wasn't really necessary to include them in their moral considerations. Also, I think your question of "whether other species' lives are as important to ours" and that there's only two possibilities is a false dichotomy. Of course there are reasons to stop eating meat even if your answer is no. I don't think an animal's life has to be classified either as "as important as a human life" or "not as important as a human life". It appears to be a spectrum based on the range of experiences that that living being is capable of experiencing (humans have a much greater range than pigs, sure, but pigs arguably have a greater range of possible experiences than fish, etc.). The world isn't just black and white.

Anonymous

Great video! though I think you should have made it more explicit that abstaining from meat and other animal products entirely is also an option. Of course it's not the only option. Reducing the amount of meat intake is a great start and buying only organic meat is better than buying meat from factory farms. But as you've said yourself, if everyone bought only organic meat, the resource problem wouldn't be fixed, it would become even worse since more resources are necessary. But other than that, really informative and beautifully animated, as always.

Anonymous

Good video! I only wanted to say that not all farming land is able to grow vegetables for human consumption. There's a lot of so-called farming land, specially in arid and sub-arid zones, that is only suitable for goat pasture. We tend to have a very "all the world has got a temperate and humid climate" view of the world.

Anonymous

First time patreon. This comment section reads like a producers huddle more than a fan board lol. I’m always appreciative for the accessible education on uncommon topics you provide!

Anonymous

Although a bit controversial, my opinion on this matter can be summarised through this rather now old video: <a href="https://youtu.be/V4jZ_BV4MQ4?t=15s" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/V4jZ_BV4MQ4?t=15s</a>

Anonymous

There are two things that I really admire about Kurzgesagt, the beautiful animation/production and even more than that, the even handed factual approach to divisive issues. There are not a lot of places that offer such a well researched unbiased dissemination of information, keep up the good work!

Anonymous

Can anybody find a reference for the claim at 2:05: up to 25kg of feed is required to make 1kg of beef? The figures I've seen online are between 3 and 7kg, this is the first time I've seen a figure that high, and can't find a reference to back it up.

evistre

Thank you! I'm extra glad now that I decided to sign up for a pastured meat CSA this summer. I won't get the first meat from it until November or December, but it's 5lb/month and the animals are treated well and are heritage breeds. I've been working on reducing my meat intake since I'm an ever-conflicted omnivore.

Kirk Lane

I like how the pro-meat argument basically boiled down to "meat is awesome" - but treating that as a legitimate reason instead of a mocking point. Signed, an omnivore trying to eat a bit less meat.

Anonymous

I love how you guys sell SkillShare, so well integrated into the video, absolutely masterful advertising!

Anonymous

As someone who sometimes teaches environmental science, thanks for this clear video. The only issue that I have with the presentation is the implication that all grazing land could be converted to cropland, thereby allowing humans to eat lower on the food chain. As has been pointed out, some land that is presently grazing land could not produce human-edible crops, even with irrigation and fertilizer. Other than that, great video!

Science Mom

That pound of food per day statistic about food waste always makes me cringe. Thanks for another great video.

Anonymous

This was an eye opening video, but I can't get my head around the fact that meat is so nutritionaly inefficient. What I don't get is why we like the taste of meat so much more than other foods. It must have an evolutionary benifit. Right?

Anonymous

Damn. I just started a chicken diet, sort of. And while it might be one of the better meats for the environment, that mass slaughter of male chickens got to me.

Anonymous
>>15913224

I think people that are ready to completely abstain from meat already know how to do this. For me this video is clearly aimed at an audience who hasn't taken sides yet, and towards them it seems (and in my experience is) more effective to suggest a meat free day, than to suggest abstining. It's better for the world to have a lot(!) of people eating less meat than a few people eating no meat.

Anonymous
>>15914745

The opinion presented in video you linked is that humans are morally justified to treat animals however we want. First the author of this video (maddox) argues that humans are in some ways distinguished from the rest of the animals, fair enough. This begs the question whether these differences entitle us to treat animals as we please. Here maddox argues that humans are the only ones that can save animal species from extinction by asteroid and that therefore we’re entitled to do anything we want to animals. By that logic if there was an interplanetary species capable of protecting earth from certain extinction by another cosmic event from which we could not protect ourselves, wouldn’t they be morally justified to do whatever they wanted to humans? Also, wouldn’t it then be morally justified for people to torture their pets?

Anonymous
>>15928059

It varies a lot from country to country as well. A lot of the facts regarding animal welfare presented in this video is not relevant in my country (Norway), for example. That's not to say it's perfect or no room for improvement, far from it, but not every country has as inhumane farms as presented in this video. The best you can do for the environment and animal welfare is eating less meat in general. :)

Anonymous

I love the video (especially the numbers and facts) but I'm very disappointed by the drawn conclusion. We don't have to change our diet because we can wait for lab grown meat? This is morally absurd. Does that mean I also don't need to give up slaves because the robot workers are coming?

Alex Ortiz
>>15912711

Same, I've been doing something like a meatless day every couple weeks, but I'll have to up that frequency.

Karlstens

The science is in, the future is vegan. Knowing this, I have decided to unsubscribe from Kurzgesagt. It was fun whilst it lasted, but I can't support any popular analysis that publishes such a schizophrenic view on something as clear cut as eating animals. Wake me up when you get the memo on veganism and I'll re-subscribe.

Anonymous
>>15921756

I assume that this is averaged across the population for all sources. By this I mean that it is most likely restaurants which are the primary contributors. It's hard not to have waste when a restraurant is preparing for every eventuality on the menu. For example, if there are 5 sides to choose from and you are expecting 100 patrons, you need to make, you can't expect them all to sell evenly, so you prepare 30-40 of each instead. I imagine food waste in restaurants often approaches 50% of the food consumed. It is relatively easy to mivimize personal waste, but hardly anyone cooks anymore.

Anonymous

I've come to find that meat is also largely an aquired taste. It is just that we live in a culture where that taste gets aquired as soon as a child is old enough eat it. I've somewhat recently become a vegetarian when I can be. Because my primary motivation is the environmental impact, I will eat whatever I am served by family, friends or restaurants that messed up my order because it is generally more wasteful to have to make a special meal for one person or have the restaurant throw away the meal that was sent back. After only 3 years of being 97% vegetarian, I have absolutely no cravings for meat and don't think that it really adds to the meal when I have it. I think that the preception of meat being good and veggies bad is largely a matter of how they are prepared, as well. Meat is often fried, drenched in sauces, covered in spice, etc. The exception is that many omnivores find something like an unseasoned steak to be very enjoyable, but as above, I struggle to think of something more bland. On the other hand, veggies are almost always an afterthought to an omnivore. They get boiled or served raw and are thus bland compared to the meat. Most veggie substitutes aren't a good solution because they just mimic a meat dish, but never quite do them justice; even if it tastes as good or better, a veggie burger doesn't have quite the same texture or mouth feel that people are used to and so they just seem fake. Most people will be more than satisfied with a dish when meat is optional like a pasta, soup, curry or caserole, or where the veggie is the intended base.

Anonymous

I cant believe what big influence does Kurzgesagt in me, since i watched this video i started eating more vegetables.

Anonymous

This must have been funded by PETA. Stick with the “what-if” scientific videos. I’d rather watch that instead of being preached to about how eating meat, which humans have done since the dawn of time, is supposedly a bad thing.

Anonymous

With so many people being angry on both sides, you just know you struck the right balance. Great job as usual and a very interesting video

Delphox26

To Titan Digital Entertainment; No, they specifically state that meat is not bad. Eating meat as often as we do today is bad.

Delphox26

<a href="https://youtu.be/sroOXBii-CE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/sroOXBii-CE</a>

Anonymous
>>15972517

understood. I think the issue is, it's too hard. As in, we're not going to change the dietary choices of the species overnight. Kurzgesagt seem to understand quite well the complexity of the issues they raise (and probably choose them because they are complex). I think raising awareness, through videos like this, is their positive contribution to a slow-but-steady reduction in meat intake.

Anonymous
>>15999961

not sure anything is exactly "clear cut" in ethics. Maybe the point is, take the long view and work slowly and steadily towards an (animal) meat-free future.

Anonymous
>>16063747

"because we always did it like this" is not the best basis for an ethical discussion. I thought they presented a fairly balanced view on a complex issue.