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Once Upon A Time S1 E16 Heart Of Darkness (Patreon)

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2021-03-19 23:58:21
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OUAT S1 E16 Heart of darkness

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hello6775

awesome reaction! i agrée 100% with the motive statement and being angry at david. regina has probably the biggest motive of anyone along with mary margaret! though we all know reginas true motive isn’t what she did in storybrooke, but what snow did in the enchanted forest, she still clearly has a motive lol. with david, i’m surprised he wasn’t confused as to why snow had long hair in his memories! that’s one of the things i was confused abt when i first saw this episode, but maybe they were blurry or something so all he really saw was her face. but it was snowing too! oh david lol. like i said before, great reaction, and in super excited for you to see who we meet next episode!❤️

hello6775
>>55964010

ah sorry abt the é in the beginning. i’m taking french and now my phone always autocorrrects agrée to agrée for some reason 🤦🏻‍♀️

Jessie Dobbie Reactions
>>55964010

Oh my gosh I didn't even think about the hair! lol David has officially lost his mind, he's so unreliable at this point. It's going to be so interesting to see what he does moving forward. I can't wait for the next episode! I have to say, I think this may be the first one where I really have no idea what is going to happen next lol Thanks!

hello6775

after watching this i decided to pull out a book that is all grimms fairy tales, and i noticed that one of the stories is called frederick and catherine! i never noticed that before, and i thought it would be a cool little thing to share if you didn’t know abt it already :)

Jessie Dobbie Reactions
>>55964773

I didn’t know that! I want to get a book of Grimm’s Fairy Tales and compare the stories to see the similarities. That’s so cool!

Ryan

Oh for sure, David is the worst. He’s like the anti-Charming.

Heidi Elizabeth Marcum

Heart of Darkness- Thank you so much for your reaction for this beautiful episode, Jessie!!! It's definitely one of my favorites from season one. I really love it a lot. Although, David makes me frustrated with him throughout this episode, I most definitely understand his misinterpretation of his flashes under hypnosis, and I will come back to this shortly... First... one of my favorite scenes from it and sadly also one of the shortest... is the first scene of the episode between David and Red as David saves Red's life when one of the guards shoots an arrow at her, then Red pulls off her cloak so she can transform into her wolf form so she can give David a head start. I love seeing Red's eyes turn yellow, then run directly towards the soldiers, before we suddenly see the wolf charge the men. I just really love how this scene was done and would have loved it if it was a little longer. Red is amazing. :) Next... as for the Storybrooke storyline... I love how it starts off right where the last episode left off with Emma having to arrest Mary Margaret, then seeing them next inside the sheriff's station as Mary Margaret is taking her mugshots and fingerprints. I feel really bad for Mary Margaret of course, but also Emma too because she has to act as the bad guy for having to arrest her closest friend who she knows didn't kill Kathryn. Emma doesn't show a whole lot of emotion, at least not in this scene, but you can tell she really is struggling with the whole situation. Later... Regina comes in and pretends to be so understanding of Mary Margaret's actions, as if she cares about her. Only we know she's only trying to strengthen the case against Mary Margaret by talking about her motives for wanting Kathryn dead. Very sly. I love Emma's unwavering faith in Mary Margaret that she's innocent and she never once gives into Regina's accusations and her attempts to make Mary Margaret appear more guilty. And I love how Emma tells Mary Margaret she has to do things as she's doing them, in order to avoid getting herself fired by Regina so that Regina can't bring in someone who won't take such care in trying to prove Mary Margaret innocent. Later, Emma also unfortunately finds the knife that she and Henry assume is the murder weapon, when they're looking through hers and Mary's Margaret's apartment. Not good. Next... we have another one of my favorite scenes, between Henry and August inside Granny's Diner. I love that August continues to keep up with the mysteriousness about him, as he encourages Henry to continue to look for answers that can help Emma save Mary Margaret, but by looking in his book, rather than going off to do something dangerous. But more importantly, I love how August talks to Henry about how powerful belief can be and that he's in town to help Emma to believe. And more so... that while people like him and Henry can go on faith and belief is enough for them, people like Emma requires proof and a firm reason to believe in something. Emma has been through a lot of hardship in her life and therefore faith and belief is not something that comes easy for her. I also love how Mr. Gold comes into the sheriff's station a little later while Emma and Mary Margaret are talking again, as Mary Margaret's growing more and more frustrated. And how Mr. Gold is supposedly a lawyer on top of being simply the owner of a pawnshop. It's interesting how he also talks about his experience with being arrested, then states he convinced a judge to drop all charges brought against him in regards to what went down between him and Moe in the previous episode... Skin Deep. And once Emma leaves, Mary Margaret asks Gold why he is willing to help, to which he replies... "Let's just say... I'm invested in your future." The very words he uses when he's talking to Snow White in the Enchanted Forest storyline too. Brilliant. Yes... Gold hates Regina, but there's so much more. I agree with you that both Mr. Gold and Rumplestiltskin are fascinating characters, and he's easily one of this show's most brilliant characters overall too. All thanks to Robert Carlyle. What a brilliant actor! :) Later... Henry comes to Emma with the skeleton keys that opens every lock and door throughout the town, and tries to convince Emma to believe that Regina could have used them to frame Mary Margaret, by asking her to pick one final key to stick into the lock after the one he tried to use on the door failed. Of course, this key works when Emma sticks the key inside the lock and opens the door to Mary Margaret's and her apartment. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that Henry possibly did this purposefully, in order to try to help Emma to begin to believe... like he spoke with August about. He had been there for some time waiting for Emma to arrive, so it would stand to reason that he would have tried all the keys in the door already. Now... in the meantime, we see that David has gone to Archie to ask for help, and Archie puts him under hypnosis to see if David can remember what's happened to him while trapped under his blackouts. And unfortunately, he falls too deeply under hypnosis as David then has the wrong memory... as his true memory of Snow saying she is going to kill the Evil Queen creeps in. And it's too bad that it's enough to get David to believe that Mary Margaret could be capable of killing Kathryn. In regards to David's blackouts and his memory of Snow exclaiming she's off to kill the Evil Queen creeping into his mind, while believing that Mary Margaret was talking to him about wanting to kill Kathryn, because this isn't ever really explained well throughout the show... I feel that why this is happening to him, is because the false memories David received from the curse are different from everyone else's are. David had been unconscious when the curse transported everyone to Storybrooke and they all became cursed, which is why he was put under a coma for the twenty-eight until Emma arrives in Storybrooke and she and Henry begins to change things. And then after David awoke, he couldn't remember anything or anyone. It wasn't until Regina steered David to Gold's shop where she knew the windmill from David's and Kathryn's house they shared was stored, that David's false memories suddenly kicked in and he became like everyone else. All of this is shown throughout episode six... The Shepherd. Now... it's because his memories are a little wonky from all of this, and because David is under duress due to all of the trouble going on and not knowing if he killed Kathryn or not, that his memories have once again begun to become garbled within his mind, causing the blackouts. And because he has been placed under deep hypnosis, it caused him to fall under so deep, that flashes of his true memories creep through. His image of Snow with long hair wouldn't matter, as I sense it's like unclear and garbled details within a dream. Everyone has wonky dreams where all of the details are confusing and disorientating, so I can understand why David doesn't seem too phased by Snow's long hair. And unfortunately... it is the worst possible memory he could have had. I really hope this all makes sense. Please let me know if it doesn't. And this brings us to one of the saddest scenes and one of this episode's strongest scenes as well, when David walks into the station and asks Mary Margaret straight up if she really did kill Kathryn. Not because I like that David has fallen for the perfect frame against her and asks Mary Margaret if she really killed Kathryn, because I really hate it. I hate seeing David so weak when I love Charming so much. I just feel that this scene was acted so beautifully by Ginnifer Goodwin. She is definitely one of the strongest actors in this show by way of showing such emotion on her face, especially when she has to cry and make us feel the deep emotions. She's amazing. Josh Dallas is a strong actor as well and his emotions are beautiful. And yes... while David is so weak in comparison to Charming, I do feel badly for David too. He is after all... a victim of the curse that is manipulating him as much as Regina has been. Unfortunately, Emma comes back to reveal that there is enough evidence against Mary Margaret for them to move forward with the case building up against her, which leads to Mary Margaret losing faith in Emma and Gold being able to save her, and using the key slipped into her cell so that she can escape. It's not good. And then... Emma comes to Gold in his shop seeking help, knowing that working with him might be the only way to bring Regina down so she can save Mary Margaret. I love the smugness in Gold and this scene between them is just really good. Now, as for the backstory within the Enchanted Forest... I really love the overall storyline. I love how Snow drinking the potion does more than just cause her to forget about Charming, but that the price of drinking it also is that Snow would lose all capability to love, anyone or anything. And she is super mean to the dwarfs and to Jiminy Cricket. While it's fun to see a different side to Snow, I missed the good hearted Snow and wanted to see this problem become cured straightaway. Snow quickly realizes she has to kill the Evil Queen and runs away from the dwarfs cottage. And speaking of the cottage... I suspect that the dwarfs came to live there after they move out of the mines upon Stealthy's death and when they then take in Snow, seen in the previous episode... 715 AM. Snow obviously couldn't live in the mines with them, so they would have needed to find themselves someplace else to stay. Snow then catches one of the Evil Queen's Black Knights, interrogates him for information about Regina's whereabouts and how to get into her castle, then steals his clothes and armor so she can use it all to sneak into the castle. However, Grumpy then comes up to her and soon convinces Snow to come with him to see Rumplestiltskin in hope that he can fix his dark magic... except that we later learn Snow has no intention of being cured even if it was possible. She is determined to kill the Evil Queen, and asks him for something that will help her. I love that he gives her a magical bow that will always hit its target. David later comes to Rumplestiltskin for help in finding Snow, and in exchange for the information, he asks for Charming's cloak. Rumple like always is so much fun in this scene, just as he was in his scene with Snow too. And I love that Rumple doesn't explain to Charming why he wants his cloak too. I love the storyline and result of Charming bringing the real Snow White back with True Love's Kiss once he reminds her of who she is, and just how much he truly loves her by jumping in front of the arrow she lets loose to kill Regina. I absolutely love these scenes... first between Snow and Charming when his first attempt to kiss Snow fails, then between Charming and Jiminy Cricket when he comes to help Charming to save Snow, and at last between him and Snow again when he shows Snow how much he loves her by taking the arrow to his shoulder. So beautiful. Again... the acting between both Ginnifer Goodwin (Snow) and Josh Dallas (Charming) is brilliant. I love, love, love this scene! It may seem a little far fetched, or perhaps a little too easy, but it's still really beautiful, and this scene as Snow kisses Charming upon him reminding her of her true self, is another of my favorite moments throughout this episode too! :) Unfortunately, Charming is captured by King George's men and is too weak from being wounded to fight them. Snow is nearly killed, but thankfully one of the soldiers shows her mercy and let's her live, while Charming is being taken away, as he cries out her name, and she responds, "I will find you. I will always find you!" Their main theme for each other. So good, and I love it! I never tire of hearing it. :) Although it's strange that Charming would cover Snow with her cape in order to hide her identity from King George's men, only to then cry out her name seconds later for all the guards to hear, I feel this error in judgement is definitely on the writers and not so much the actors. Next... I love the scene between Snow and dwarfs when she comes home again and apologizes to the dwarfs for treating them so wrongly, then tells them she has to leave again so she can go save Charming. And I love that all of the dwarfs stand up as they insist on going with her to help her save her True Love. "Let's go show that Evil Queen what Snow White and the seven dwarfs can really do!" Love it! And lastly... we get one final and brief scene with Rumplestiltskin... as he is seen picking a hair from Charming's head off from the cloak, then as he bottles it along with the strand of hair he took from Snow's head, seen back in the episode... 715 AM. And when the hairs come together, Rumple's magic creates the potion for True Love that he's struggled the longest to create an elixir from. Rumple states that True Love is so powerful, that if someone can manage to create a potion from it, it can help them to accomplish anything. And this comes just after Snow and Charming share True Love's Kiss. Absolutely brilliant! Overall... such a beautiful episode. I really love it and I'm glad that you enjoyed it too. Thank you again, so much! I can't wait for more!! Sincerely, Heidi

Jacob Michard

I think from what I remember I don't think anyone knows about Katherine and Regina's "friendship". They were always alone.