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After bashing my head to the wall plenty of times, XD. I think I will do a choice based but I will keep it linear and only 1 extra scene for that specific moment, since I am more scared of accidentally creating a branching story when 2 route already happened. Since it could give choice won't even matter when a story is linear.


The choice is for both route actually, this might delay even further for the game to be completed, but I think at the very least, the game feels much more completed. I am truly sorry but I really wanted to give a best content there is by improving the game even more. I am not trying to deny people input, just there is so many variable to put and with NTR, it is really complex since it play with emotions.

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2023-08-09 02:23:07 You give in too easily- not even a poll. >.>.. I think the way you planned it- thinking about it with clarity during your break would work best. And like I had posted about having pregnancy as a story point- but not actual pregnancy(don't need bloated bellies or anything-) on a post a ways back- it works well in NTR route especially that Kana suddenly would get more aggressive in the affection she asks for towards MC- because she would not be able to have unprotected sex with futa if it meant the possibility of not being able to cover up in the future if worst case scenario happened- But it's a magic fantasy verse so there's a lot of ways to do things. + The greatness that comes with being forced to compare MC with futa(Even if it's in her mind and player doesn't immediately get to know her thoughts)- by having sex with MC- drives further her corruption points. She would have no choice to think about the differences and feeling- which is likely a big win for Futa. Personally I would like MC to not take the virginity- there needs to be as many possible reasons Kana continues to go along with futa ideas more and more- Currently- it's a sort of aphrodisiacal effect as well as a sort of mind control isn't it? If you think of her reluctance to push- as walls- the futas job is to break those one at a time as acts increase more and more- taking virginity is basically the point of opening all possible acts- at least on the table. And can go more into "abnormal" plays- anal- etc. and more hardcore positioning-(full nelson carry- a classic NTR impact pose)- And I like the idea of the futa in the NTR route being more on the evil side- with Annas thoughts we see she isn't all that good- even if ayako and sanako were nice before- they've been whispered sweet nothings for a while and should give in- faced with the idea of pleasure and getting that taste of it as they have. You said no rape- which is completely understandable- but it can still be motivated by cruelty- and schemes to set the MC up for humiliation(even if he himself is unaware)- and to get him closer to finding the truth- and just dangling that in front of him as a way to make him look incompetent to Kana- and whoever is with the futa in the act. With NTR route- touching the impact/teasing of NTR is so much different from NTS- in NTS you have direct humiliation and MC would likely even enjoy Kana explaining how futa is better- if it's not apparent from her louder moans. It's all about comparing adequacies- but in an NTR route- the comparison has to come from the MCs pov- or not at all. If the MC takes Kanas virginity- there should be a scene post-futa sex where the MC remarks how it feels different than the first time(if/when they have sex again)- But even better than that is if the futa taking virginity/sex- is used as a tool for manipulating the heroine in the first place. It may sound generic- but at least as a bargaining chip- the futa teaching kana how to pleasure men well and falling victim to the pushing that breaks those walls until she forgets her reason for allowing it in the first place+ allwhile still having ero scenes of her being -surprisingly- skilled in lesser acts to the MC- like a good handjob that makes the MC cum quick- as she has been doing this to the futa for a long time- who doesn't cum as fast and has strengthened her proclivity for it. You can put scenes like this throughout the game- more than just related to virginity. It would help the bonding events post-beach date well. And reading all that is probably really hard on the eyes and a lot probably gets lost in translation but just throwing my thoughts. I would have futa take it in NTR- and MC take it in NTS as a "well I want my first to be with you" type deal as the agreement before MC realizes he might have screwed up a bit later...(unless he's a true cuckold and gets off more even when it spirals from playful fun to humiliation- to not even being interested in playing with him anymore.- etc.) The futa spirit should be somewhat cruel- and want the feeling of victory from stealing firsts- and gaining power over anything the MC wants.- I like the idea of kanas escalation in the NTR route to be a literal and figurative "slip" up- in accepting futa acts- but also not even thinking about virginity until it's suddenly taken- then accepting it from then on. Something like a thigh job into hymen breaking- and immediate escalation as they both can't get it enough of it. Because I want there to be a lot of teasing scenes that involve insertion AFTER- virgin loss. I don't want the virgin loss to be the endgame and final impact like some NTR games tend to do- raising bars higher and higher and then virgin loss- then sex in front of MC- then game end. I want a game that teases the mc like the futa should want to do- in a stealthy way- get him as close to finding out as possible just to have another excuse right at the end that makes sense enough for him to go with it. which in turn thrills the heroines- who are both excited and fearful of being found.. and they find it feels better doing it in close proximity with the risks of being discovered. etc.. I gotta stop my rant here..
2023-08-02 11:10:07 You give in too easily- not even a poll. >.>.. I think the way you planned it- thinking about it with clarity during your break would work best. And like I had posted about having pregnancy as a story point- but not actual pregnancy(don't need bloated bellies or anything-) on a post a ways back- it works well in NTR route especially that Kana suddenly would get more aggressive in the affection she asks for towards MC- because she would not be able to have unprotected sex with futa if it meant the possibility of not being able to cover up in the future if worst case scenario happened- But it's a magic fantasy verse so there's a lot of ways to do things. + The greatness that comes with being forced to compare MC with futa(Even if it's in her mind and player doesn't immediately get to know her thoughts)- by having sex with MC- drives further her corruption points. She would have no choice to think about the differences and feeling- which is likely a big win for Futa. Personally I would like MC to not take the virginity- there needs to be as many possible reasons Kana continues to go along with futa ideas more and more- Currently- it's a sort of aphrodisiacal effect as well as a sort of mind control isn't it? If you think of her reluctance to push- as walls- the futas job is to break those one at a time as acts increase more and more- taking virginity is basically the point of opening all possible acts- at least on the table. And can go more into "abnormal" plays- anal- etc. and more hardcore positioning-(full nelson carry- a classic NTR impact pose)- And I like the idea of the futa in the NTR route being more on the evil side- with Annas thoughts we see she isn't all that good- even if ayako and sanako were nice before- they've been whispered sweet nothings for a while and should give in- faced with the idea of pleasure and getting that taste of it as they have. You said no rape- which is completely understandable- but it can still be motivated by cruelty- and schemes to set the MC up for humiliation(even if he himself is unaware)- and to get him closer to finding the truth- and just dangling that in front of him as a way to make him look incompetent to Kana- and whoever is with the futa in the act. With NTR route- touching the impact/teasing of NTR is so much different from NTS- in NTS you have direct humiliation and MC would likely even enjoy Kana explaining how futa is better- if it's not apparent from her louder moans. It's all about comparing adequacies- but in an NTR route- the comparison has to come from the MCs pov- or not at all. If the MC takes Kanas virginity- there should be a scene post-futa sex where the MC remarks how it feels different than the first time(if/when they have sex again)- But even better than that is if the futa taking virginity/sex- is used as a tool for manipulating the heroine in the first place. It may sound generic- but at least as a bargaining chip- the futa teaching kana how to pleasure men well and falling victim to the pushing that breaks those walls until she forgets her reason for allowing it in the first place+ allwhile still having ero scenes of her being -surprisingly- skilled in lesser acts to the MC- like a good handjob that makes the MC cum quick- as she has been doing this to the futa for a long time- who doesn't cum as fast and has strengthened her proclivity for it. You can put scenes like this throughout the game- more than just related to virginity. It would help the bonding events post-beach date well. And reading all that is probably really hard on the eyes and a lot probably gets lost in translation but just throwing my thoughts. I would have futa take it in NTR- and MC take it in NTS as a "well I want my first to be with you" type deal as the agreement before MC realizes he might have screwed up a bit later...(unless he's a true cuckold and gets off more even when it spirals from playful fun to humiliation- to not even being interested in playing with him anymore.- etc.) The futa spirit should be somewhat cruel- and want the feeling of victory from stealing firsts- and gaining power over anything the MC wants.- I like the idea of kanas escalation in the NTR route to be a literal and figurative "slip" up- in accepting futa acts- but also not even thinking about virginity until it's suddenly taken- then accepting it from then on. Something like a thigh job into hymen breaking- and immediate escalation as they both can't get it enough of it. Because I want there to be a lot of teasing scenes that involve insertion AFTER- virgin loss. I don't want the virgin loss to be the endgame and final impact like some NTR games tend to do- raising bars higher and higher and then virgin loss- then sex in front of MC- then game end. I want a game that teases the mc like the futa should want to do- in a stealthy way- get him as close to finding out as possible just to have another excuse right at the end that makes sense enough for him to go with it. which in turn thrills the heroines- who are both excited and fearful of being found.. and they find it feels better doing it in close proximity with the risks of being discovered. etc.. I gotta stop my rant here..

You give in too easily- not even a poll. >.>.. I think the way you planned it- thinking about it with clarity during your break would work best. And like I had posted about having pregnancy as a story point- but not actual pregnancy(don't need bloated bellies or anything-) on a post a ways back- it works well in NTR route especially that Kana suddenly would get more aggressive in the affection she asks for towards MC- because she would not be able to have unprotected sex with futa if it meant the possibility of not being able to cover up in the future if worst case scenario happened- But it's a magic fantasy verse so there's a lot of ways to do things. + The greatness that comes with being forced to compare MC with futa(Even if it's in her mind and player doesn't immediately get to know her thoughts)- by having sex with MC- drives further her corruption points. She would have no choice to think about the differences and feeling- which is likely a big win for Futa. Personally I would like MC to not take the virginity- there needs to be as many possible reasons Kana continues to go along with futa ideas more and more- Currently- it's a sort of aphrodisiacal effect as well as a sort of mind control isn't it? If you think of her reluctance to push- as walls- the futas job is to break those one at a time as acts increase more and more- taking virginity is basically the point of opening all possible acts- at least on the table. And can go more into "abnormal" plays- anal- etc. and more hardcore positioning-(full nelson carry- a classic NTR impact pose)- And I like the idea of the futa in the NTR route being more on the evil side- with Annas thoughts we see she isn't all that good- even if ayako and sanako were nice before- they've been whispered sweet nothings for a while and should give in- faced with the idea of pleasure and getting that taste of it as they have. You said no rape- which is completely understandable- but it can still be motivated by cruelty- and schemes to set the MC up for humiliation(even if he himself is unaware)- and to get him closer to finding the truth- and just dangling that in front of him as a way to make him look incompetent to Kana- and whoever is with the futa in the act. With NTR route- touching the impact/teasing of NTR is so much different from NTS- in NTS you have direct humiliation and MC would likely even enjoy Kana explaining how futa is better- if it's not apparent from her louder moans. It's all about comparing adequacies- but in an NTR route- the comparison has to come from the MCs pov- or not at all. If the MC takes Kanas virginity- there should be a scene post-futa sex where the MC remarks how it feels different than the first time(if/when they have sex again)- But even better than that is if the futa taking virginity/sex- is used as a tool for manipulating the heroine in the first place. It may sound generic- but at least as a bargaining chip- the futa teaching kana how to pleasure men well and falling victim to the pushing that breaks those walls until she forgets her reason for allowing it in the first place+ allwhile still having ero scenes of her being -surprisingly- skilled in lesser acts to the MC- like a good handjob that makes the MC cum quick- as she has been doing this to the futa for a long time- who doesn't cum as fast and has strengthened her proclivity for it. You can put scenes like this throughout the game- more than just related to virginity. It would help the bonding events post-beach date well. And reading all that is probably really hard on the eyes and a lot probably gets lost in translation but just throwing my thoughts. I would have futa take it in NTR- and MC take it in NTS as a "well I want my first to be with you" type deal as the agreement before MC realizes he might have screwed up a bit later...(unless he's a true cuckold and gets off more even when it spirals from playful fun to humiliation- to not even being interested in playing with him anymore.- etc.) The futa spirit should be somewhat cruel- and want the feeling of victory from stealing firsts- and gaining power over anything the MC wants.- I like the idea of kanas escalation in the NTR route to be a literal and figurative "slip" up- in accepting futa acts- but also not even thinking about virginity until it's suddenly taken- then accepting it from then on. Something like a thigh job into hymen breaking- and immediate escalation as they both can't get it enough of it. Because I want there to be a lot of teasing scenes that involve insertion AFTER- virgin loss. I don't want the virgin loss to be the endgame and final impact like some NTR games tend to do- raising bars higher and higher and then virgin loss- then sex in front of MC- then game end. I want a game that teases the mc like the futa should want to do- in a stealthy way- get him as close to finding out as possible just to have another excuse right at the end that makes sense enough for him to go with it. which in turn thrills the heroines- who are both excited and fearful of being found.. and they find it feels better doing it in close proximity with the risks of being discovered. etc.. I gotta stop my rant here..

FutaFantasyNTR

Ah!, what I am thinking to do is only that one specific scene to create that love, in NTR route, I am trying to make both Kana and Jack are at fault. Jack being a quickshot and Kana will go to Sayako for "training" due to her naiveness where Sayako will trick Kana as long it is between girls, it would be fine kind of thing to please her future husband and of course how NTR go is just the usual. Since I really wanted to pull that SAO NTR to show the superiority of Sayako, but if it cause more complication for NTR, I have to rethink or scrapped since I really wanted to make a good NTR and both NTS. While NTS... Yeah, it is netorase where Jack will be asking Kana to sleep with someone and she is really weirded out and surprised, which she will go along with Jack weird fetish, so I will try to do it and wait for feedback. I will try to brainstorm again on how to make a really good story, XD

D0

You know more about the ins and outs of the genre than most people that will be commenting- so don't be afraid to use your own ideas even if they seem unpopular with commenters. If you listened to everything- you wouldn't even have an NTR game in the end. Think the game will turn out really well- but I think it would be better if it was planned for one route from the beginning- with multiple choices variations of scenes or a change in who the scenes are with since there's so many heroines. Having two drastically different routes is basically making two different games- 3 if you consider the futa pov recollections. Can't fully focus on just one.. Hidden/mystery pov needs a lot of focus because it's difficult to balance hcontent and keep the mystery believable. and not putting all effort into that is only going hurt the pacing if you are looking to make headway in deadlines you set for yourself. I think you could do a game built around that really well.. maybe someday in the future

FutaFantasyNTR

Yup, which is why when this chapter 1 is done, I am going to do a real proper NTR game since I disappointed a lot of NTR fans here. It is really frustrating tbh that I can't do a really good NTR in this game

D0

Hope you stick with futa as well in the future- Futa + NTR are two of my favorite things and you rarely see them together.

FutaFantasyNTR

Yup, I am going to do Isekai Elf approach before I do chapter 2. To train more and more. Well, I am planning to keep on doing the futa NTR, XD. Just I am really a greedy and ambitious person that want... NTR or NTS. But I will use this game as a learning lesson not to be so greedy, XD

Pat

Two routes is always too much work for not much payoff.