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Doctor Who 2x7 EDITED Reaction | The Idiot's Lantern (Patreon)

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Doctor Who 2x7 Reaction | The Idiot's Lantern

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Josef Schiltz

Similar losses. I can empathize with Mickey.

Craig

"who's Kylie?" Kylie Minogue, Princess of Pop

Gambit3838

Monday and Wednesday are the best days of the week. The best reactor with the best show.

Jason

I think this episode gets a bit of a hard time from fans, no its not the greatest at anything in particular, but it is a fun Who romp with a bit of body horror to terrify the children. Its always worth remembering that the ideal time to be watching Who is between 5 and 15, and it is made with that audience always in mind, so sometimes its a bit childish to adult eyes, or it does something as an adult you've seen a million times in other things. But when your 7 its probably the first time you've ever seen such a thing, or come across a particular concept. As an example I grew up from the 3rd Doctor onwards, and the 4th Doctor story Brain of Morbius is heavily inspired by both the Frankenstein novel and the style of 1970's Hammer House of Horror films, the concepts of Shelleys novel and the stylings of a horror film were my introduction to those things, in Who, aged 7, and so it blew my mind, terrified me, and fascinated in equal measure and it stuck with me. I suspect for those who were of similar age to I was then when they watched the 9th Doctor in the Empty Child they had a similar experience, those horror concepts, seeing body horror at all, it was proably their first introudction and likewise it seems to have stuck in their minds ever since. People having their faces pulled off leaving them blank might not be much of a visual shock to an adult, but it probably worked just fine on the children to scare them and make it more memorable than it might be to an adult. There are also a few nice nods to history in this, not just the Coronation but the tv transmitter the finale takes place on was of significance as being the first of its kind, the Wire presents herself in the style of a famous British childrens program, 'Watch With Mother', which was broadcast in the early days of televsion and always began with the hostess saying "Are we all sitting comfortably? Then we shall began," which the Wire also says. She also looks similar to the hostess of that show. You can find it on youtube.

The Girl Who Was Erased

The "Kylie" the doctor is referring to is singer/actress Kylie Minogue, Who had a hit song called "Never too late"... To my understanding she didn't get a huge success in the USA but she was an icon in Europe in the early 2000 so I get why someone could miss the reference (maybe you could have heard the song can't get you outta my head, I highly recommend it for totally non specific reasons 👀). As for the faceless monsters they were actually practical effects, besides Billie Piper who used CGI if memory serves correctly

Josef Schiltz
>>148933677

On the balcony there, at Buckingham Palace, yes, you're spot on, that was Prince Charles with his younger sister, Princess Anne. Although our family didn't have a television until 1964, my mother and grandmother saw the highlights at our local town cinema. I have some Coronation newspapers and books which my mother collected at the time. This is pretty much a Twilight Zone - Outer Limits episode of Doctor Who. Aptly, it could be said, "There is nothing wrong with your television set. We control transmission. We can deluge you with a thousand different channels or sharpen one to crystal clarity!" There's a nice little outtakes video of David Tennant just standing there, laughing and not being able to deliver his lines to Billie, who is standing there with registration marks for the blank face effect on her face.

@PendragonUK

Don't worry, we don't all like King Charles, and no I didn't watch the coronation. We are not all royalty mad over here, for everyone waving a flag there are plenty that are not. Of course, you can only see the ones with the flags and such. As for flying the flag upside down, it's quite subtle. On the diagonal crosses, the red and white, the white is thicker on one side of the red. Those thicker white parts should be on top next to the flagpole and lower on the trailing edge.

William Burnham

Ron Cook - absolutely vile in Inside No 9, Wise Owl and a specialist in playing drunks ( see Hot Fuzz)

Lucifer_Crowe

I feel like the end with Tommy shows that Rose isn't perfect. Because to her her dad is amazing and growing up without him was sad. So she has to believe that there's something in Eddie cause she doesn't want Tommy to not have a dad etc. Flawed logic, but real.

Jason
>>148938476

I think there is more to it than that, yes it fits with Rose she would want Tommy to have his Dad in his life, but the whole episode has a subtle undercurrent about families and society of that time. Tommy's Dad is concerned about his reputation, in an era when that really mattered to people, to some it was the most important thing, what people thought of you mattered. Whether you got in the Freemasons or the Rotary Club, or even just the Golf Club or Bowling Club, got the promotion at work or offer of a job, they could hinge entirley on your reputation, on just what people thought of you. In a very British way, to know you were a 'sound sort of a chap'. A concept almost entriely reliant upon word of mouth, on what people thought of you. There is also the other older woman at their house for the coronation, who advises he beat Tommy to sort him out, she is representive of the generation above Eddies. The attitudes he grew up with, his own father no doubt would readily have raised a hand or chastisted him. This was not the exception but the rule, especially in the working and lower middle classes. My own father for example who wanted to be the first in our family to go onto higher education never got the chance, because his own father forced him out of school aged 14 to apprentice as a bricklayer. It was a different reality in the 50 and early 60's. And Eddie's confrontation with Tommy, over what his Dad fought the war for also tells us society is changing, there is a huge generational shift coming in the following decade and the world Eddie has known is eroding fast, change gets frightening sometimes when you don't understand it and sometimes people respond by lashing out to protect themselves from it, look at our present society over gender issues or immigration. We don't know what sort of upbringing Eddie had, but from that one women's comments and how he treats his wife and son verbally, we can hazard a guess, short on shows of love in his own family, probably lacking in food and comforts, not greatly educated, forced to go fight in a horrendous war, and then conform to a society that valued reputation and public standing as the highest things. A man who feels under constant pressure to maintain standards, and paranoia at the fear of losing his reputation. Who only feels he has control or power inside his own home, and when his mother in law loses her face it risks his reputation, and it takes control away from him in his own home, the only place he has it, and its that which makes him increasingly tyranical. What Roses actions at the end show is understanding, empathy, more on the writers part than Roses perhaps, but that Eddie is not necceserily bad of nature, we don't know enough to judge that, but there is the chance of growth of reflection and of him making himself a better man, all the more likely with his son to support and help him do it.

Anders Thomsen
>>148935198

And for those non-specific reasons, Angela should do it in the next couple of months or so (give or take)

Anders Thomsen

Yeah I've never loved this episode either. I think you should have been a child in Britain to be nostalgic about the "Are you sitting comfortably?" thing. And uh! the Ood next... I love the Ood

Pharal

I really don't like that ending! The whole "It's your dad" thing is such a BS thing to say IMO. Thinking that they are 'owed' a relationship, because they are blood related, when they treat people like that, is not true. I am not saying that there couldn't be a mending at all... just that it needs to come from Eddie and he needs to understand what he did wrong, before that can happen. People like that CAN change... but only after really serious introspection and admitting their faults. If this was real life, chances are very good that Rose just made it worse. It is a very bad message to send to people in general.

Matthew Case

It's a shame some people have spoiled some character returns for you. But certainly lots of good stuff to come!

Frank J

Bit of a filler episode for me.

Ben
>>148935198

There's actually a brilliant blooper on Youtube somewhere of the scene where The Doctor sees faceless Rose for the first, where, as you said it is CGI with her so Tennant had to just stare at Billie Piper's face but just couldn't keep a straight face and kept corpsing!

Dylan Humphries
>>148942843

I get this read, and I agree that 'It's your Dad' (and therefore you owe him) is a terrible take for all the reasons that you point out. But ... I've never read it that way. For all that we talk about how the Doctor is when he's angry, the man that he wants to be most of the time is a man who is open, and engaged, and kind. The man who sees a werewolf is beautiful even as it's coming to kill him. The man who was overjoyed that Margaret the Slitheen got a second life. Who made Cassandra, who wanted to be the last of something, into the beginning of something and then bent time and space so she could be comforted at her death. And this is an attitude that rubs off on Rose, so when she says that line my read was 'It's your Dad' (and you have a chance to be kind here). And Tommy is in a place to be kind. He has secure housing with his Mum and his chances for higher education aren't Eddie's to veto anymore. If Eddie's behaviour continues to be bad that relationship might have to be withdrawn just as his mother's was, and that possibility seems supported by the bulk of the episode, but being open to that possibility for change and improvement is very in keeping with the themes of the show. It's certainly a moment that's open to interpretation, and could have used a bit more in the text to shape it up. Particularly in light of how rotten Eddie is show to be, not only to his family but in terms of informing on his neighbours, a stronger focus on Tommy's safety and stability and clarity that he didn't have an obligation would have been ideal.

David Vandervliet

In 2006 Doctor Who was huge and they made all sorts of merch. Including, of course action figures. And for some reason they thought kids would want to have a faceless granny in their toxboxes.

Frank Izaguirre

I understand peoples excitement and eagerness to interact and comment about things to come, but we just really need to do some self-editing when we post to try and avoid spoilers.

Brandon Metcalf

The way Davies handled the show was essentially (very common with television like doctor who), there would be a light hearted episode then 1 or 2 sombre/difficult episodes. So whenever there's a goofy fun Who episode in the Davies era there will probably be a sad or emotional one after lol

MertzRocks
>>148933678

Agreed! Angela, you beat out my original favorite QUITE a while back! ;* <3 :D

Dylan Humphries
>>148942112

I can't even with the Ood. They get just two good words and some (OK, very good) music. Otherwise .... Eeeeuughhhh.

MertzRocks
>>148935198

Were they practical fx? It was wot? 2006 yes? only 39 years after the 1967 season one Star Trek ep 'Charlie X' - but they only did one faceless person. For '66-67 production, I think it wasn't bad for what it was, and the maybe 2 seconds screentime. This was good too, but how do they breathe!?!? (Don't answer that) :D

SweetCandle

Remember kids, you have an obligation to give your abuser unconditional access to your life if they share DNA with you. (If you couldn't tell, this isn't my favorite episode)

The Girl Who Was Erased
>>148935198

Ikr? I There are behind the scenes videos (like DW confidential or something like that) that showed the extras who wore the face mask all day long, and it's been a while since I've watched them so I might not remember correctly but I think they had to stay the whole day without eating/drinking and they breathed through some sort of straws that went through the nose

Ejigantor
>>148935198

I remember Kylie hitting it big in the UK in the 80s with "The Locomotion"

Lloyd B
>>148935198

While I e never exactly been a Kylie fan, I do appreciate her talent. She’s still huge here in her native Australia, and I’m sure in the UK as well. For me she got real cred when she did that duo with Nic Cave (well worth a look) - Where the Wild Roses Grow.

funnylilgalreacts
>>148974135

This. Being around anybody who’s threatened to set you straight physically, is definitely cause to leave. I know Rose was saying it because throwing away a fatherly relationship is heartbreaking to her but that’s her own shit.

Anders Thomsen
>>148942112

Love the introduction "We must feed.... you, if you're hungry" (And the only reason I'm spoilery is because you indicated that you already watched it ;-)

Hugh Diffey

"I didn't watch Charles coronation", don't worry, we didn't either.

leeoh

not my favourite episode by any means but i live right by alexandra palace so watching this as a 7 year old was mind blowing - the doctor and rose were near my house! 😭 your reactions bring me so much nostalgia and joy to see you enjoy this show for the first time🫶

Gambit3838
>>148933678

Not missing out. Farscape is just further down my personal sci-fi list so look forward to Monday and Wednesday alot more.